Proud boys....fascists? lol.
Yep. You don't have to be smart, competent, or have fashion sense to be a fascist.
@mesonoxian No, defending people from being attacked by thugs is not showing up to attack people. I know it might seem like an attack since the left isn't used to people defending themselves, but it is not.
Beating people up isn't the defintion of fascism. That said, my very limited experience of them is that they are always looking to cause violence, but seldom against people capable of fighting back. Apparently they get a merit badge for beating people.
Ok, so it's been a bit since you mentioned this, but I really can't let this bit go unanswered. As I've said before on Atwater:
Given that Reagan went to Mississippi to talk about "turning power back over to the states" just over a decade after the state/federal conflict over segregation, starting supporting gun control because black people were arming themselves, ignored the AIDS crisis which disproportionately affected black men (and gay men, of course), and campaigned dogwhistling about "welfare queens", I'll respectfully disagree with the conclusion.
Why? He is more trustworthy then MSM. He also has sources to back up his claims.
What is wrong with that video btw?
I didn't watch the video. I don't see a lot of point since the mere association with Crowder is enough to taint it, snd frankly I can't stand the dude. He's like the most unfunny guy at an open mic night and he's a scum bag.
This is something I don't get about the right. YouTube isn't a source for anything. Neither is Twitter. They can be interesting and engaging and even educational, but they are not evidence. Like Project Veritas just edits the hell out of videos until they are showing something completely other than what happened and tosses them up on YouTube. Alex Jones had a YouTube channel, hell, I have a YouTube channel. If a clip has been edited, narrated, has words on the screen to tell you what is happening, or in general isn't raw footage without a cut, you can't trust it to be unaltered. Even then you have to be careful. People will post video of completely unrelated events. Video of "Portland rioters" went around for a while before people noticed the signs were all in French.
Twitter is even worse. Anybody can post any out of context video, slap some totally false comment on it and put it up. That's where Gohmert claimed to hear about the supersecret German server full of crime votes. Remember the horror of the November 4th attacks? Surely they can only be rivaled by the terror of the Bowling Green Massacre. Seriously a bunch of people got convinced Antifa supersoldiers were going to launch an attack on Nov 4 because a comedian (going by KrangTNelson) posted a joke. And when nobody showed up, the Proud Boys (or Patriot Prayer, one of that bunch) congratulated themselves on having scared them off.
My mother in law sent me a Facebook meme as evidence of something once for the love of Pete. And people, grown adult people, believe Qanon on the basis of zip and fuckall except it is a story they want to believe.
The "mainstream media" is corporate controlled and slants its stories, but not especially to the left. If anything, they are deadset on acting like "both sides have a valid perspective" even when one side is factually incorrect. Reality isn't fair and balanced. Climate change is real and putting on a climate change denier for "balance" just creates the illusion of equivalence when one side is objectively backed by the facts. And they'll never give a solid story about workers rights or public resistance to corporate influence. Scares their advertisers and their bosses. But they operate vaguely within reality. The won't give you the whole truth, and they won't give anti-corporate voices a fair hearing, but the bulk of what they report at least vaguely conforms to reality. You want to check multiple version, or look for first hand sources, but it is rare they are just completely making something up. With stories on social media, there are more fakes than truth.
Guys maybe get back to the topic? Leave the "thats not real socialism" guy alone. There are other threads for socialism discussion.
Fair enough. I didn't want to let those posts sit without replying, but I'll stop posting in here.
Later, y'all. It's been real.