Someone apparently never told the Powers that Be in France what happened last time the common folk went hungry....
But that happened to bad royals,and they are ENLINGHTENED progressives ! common folk could not hurt ENLINGHTENED rulers,right ?
so do you think the next government will bring back the monarchy or will it be another republic?
In 1870 France would have Monarchy if not for fact,that candidate was,well,too honorable.
There's also the possibility that they may just be fed up with both systems, and decide to go with something else. Perhaps a demarchy; where all members of the government are chosen at random from amongst the citizenry.so do you think the next government will bring back the monarchy or will it be another republic?
There's also the possibility that they may just be fed up with both systems, and decide to go with something else. Perhaps a demarchy; where all members of the government are chosen at random from amongst the citizenry.
That'd go to shit impressively fast in its own right.
The Count of Chambord, you mean? I don't think it was honor. Rather, it was the fact that, after he died, the Orléans branch would inherit the throne. The same family that stabbed the Bourbons in the back twice, the first time with Philippe Egalité, the second time with Louis Philippe. There was no way in hell he would leave the throne to the Orléans.
One could say the same thing about any attempt at constructing a system of government after a violent revolution, what with people being people. Personally, I think it could work; if it was designed and implemented properly. Of course even if it fails, at least it doesn't meet the definition of insanity; trying the same thing, over and over again, expecting different results.That'd go to shit impressively fast in its own right.
What "strong, old institution"? Monarchism died a well-deserved, pathetic death a long time ago; there's nothing left of it to rebuild. Not that any sane person would want to, considering what always happened whenever France tried to bring it back before; the king started acting like a king, and the people took exception to that. Violently.I don't know about the rest of you, but I think a monarchy would actually be better than that. If anything a strong, old institution such as a monarchy would be of tremendous benefit to a tumultuous country like France.
Monarchism died a well-deserved, pathetic death a long time ago
Not so much arrogance, as a desire to avoid repeating the same deadly mistakes we've been repeating throughout most of human history.Oh ho ho, that is the arrogance of the 21st century bleeding through. Like it or not, monarchy has been the default method of governance for human beings since Sumer and Akkad, if not (likely) earlier. We could actually be a weird "blip" as far as our descendants are concerned.
Returning to monarchy would be like returning to sail power for combat operations.Not so much arrogance, as a desire to avoid repeating the same deadly mistakes we've been repeating throughout most of human history.
Option One: The rebels lose, the status quo cracks down on 'wrong' opinions. Still officially a democracy, but voting for anything but the status quo is criminalized and there's a lot more spying and miscellaneous authoritarianism.so do you think the next government will bring back the monarchy or will it be another republic?
Option One: The rebels lose, the status quo cracks down on 'wrong' opinions. Still officially a democracy, but voting for anything but the status quo is criminalized and there's a lot more spying and miscellaneous authoritarianism.
Option Two: The rebels temporarily win but fail to seize the french nuclear arsenal and acquire MAD deterrence against being reconquered by the status quo, probably using american troops told they're fighting 'alt-rightists' or 'nazis' as cannon fodder. Essentially Option One, but the regime's enforcers are foreigners and the new french regime is imposed from abroad.
Option Three: The rebels win and seize the french nuclear arsenal for Mutually Assured Destruction deterrence defense against Liberation™. France is then blockaded and sanctioned by the status quo until declining quality of life for the average french plebeian caused by said blockades and sanctions motivate a revolt against the new french goverment in favor of a substitute under the status quo's control, so they can get their international goods back.
Option Four: The rebels win, seize the french nukes and are successfully able to establish trade deals with russia or possibly china* and enough other dissident states against the status quo that their economy isn't fucked. The resulting new axis of power completely reshapes geopolitics.
* China would profit greatly from being able to provide an alternative to the west/break the status quo's monopoly of trade, but on the other hand, they wouldn't want to support a nationalist western regime since such a regime could, if given half a chance, become a superpower and consequentially a threat to them.
Option five: the rumblings continue, the government coasts on.
The U.S. Embassy in Paris began reaching out to ethnic and racial minorities in France after the Sept. 11 attacks as part of a global push to “win hearts and minds.”
The embassy organized educational programs on subjects like affirmative action, a taboo concept in France, drawing nonwhite French audiences for the first time, said Randianina Peccoud, who oversaw the outreach programs and retired from the embassy last year.
Ms. Peccoud, who is from Madagascar, a former French colony, also identified grass-roots leaders like Ms. Diallo in the banlieues — often eliciting angry reactions from French officials and fueling enduring suspicions.
“They were afraid that people in the banlieues would start to be a little aware of their own situation in French society,” Ms. Peccoud said.
The visits to the United States, organized around themes like community organizing in Chicago and diversity, also gave participants an introduction to an alternative vision of society.
I guess I'll dump other French news here as well. France practised civic nationalism for a long time, but racial nationalism is raising its head, helped by USA.
A Racial Awakening in France, Where Race Is a Taboo Topic
Good. The more damages are caused by minorities deciding to try and piss off the natives of european nations, the more likely the concepts of diversity and equality will be tainted beyond recovery.That is a bad decision....dear god what the fuck is our embassy doing? No..just no, this is shit you do to your enemies not to neutral countries or nato allies. This is deliberately undermining a western nation with nukes one that we actually do business with.
This can actually fuck us right in the ass.