yes, but the joke is that it was so bad that it did more damage to the Russian fleet than the Japanese did.
Don't mind him. He likes engaging in tangential near non-sequiters to flex on.
yes, but the joke is that it was so bad that it did more damage to the Russian fleet than the Japanese did.
Don't mind him. He likes engaging in tangential near non-sequiters to flex on.
Pastry is serious shit.Today I learned this was a real thing
Pastry War - Wikipedia
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All fun and games until you trash a Frenchman's baking
You forgot to mention that the reason it took both of them was because SoDak had that massive electrical cascade which effectively put it out of action, that cause Kiri to focus on pounding SoDak so much Wash was able to gank Kiri with surprise salvos.By the time WWI rolled around the British were asking to borrow the Kongo's to reinforce the Grand Fleet. When WWII rolled around it took two American fast battleships (South Dakota and Washington) to stop a Kongo (Kirishima) in a night battle.
I also forgot to mention that SoDak and Wash would not have been there if the US hadn't basically ran out of heavy cruisers and had to toss two fast battleships into Ironbottom Sound.You forgot to mention that the reason it took both of them was because SoDak had that massive electrical cascade which effectively put it out of action, that cause Kiri to focus on pounding SoDak so much Wash was able to gank Kiri with surprise salvos.
The Kongo's were good ships, but please don't pretend they were so tough they needed two US BBs to sink them in close combat.
The worst led USN fleet of WWII was the one that got ambushed in the middle of the night near Savo Island.Hiei got crippled by a cruiser and a destroyer which were part of arguably the worst led USN fleet of the war.
At Midway the Japanese were actually outnumbered 4:3 when it came to the aircraft count.I mean, Midway shows that having all the advantages doesn't mean one will win
I mean, Midway shows that having all the advantages doesn't mean one will win
I mean, true.Well the USN had the advantage there and won that one
The Japanese had more carriers but they were understrength with exhausted crews and worn out aircraft that hadn't been reinforced or replaced. They had good strike doctrine but awful defensive doctrine which contributed greatly to their loss. On paper the carrier aircraft numbers were almost the same but the US had the Midway airfields too.
Not to mention the decisive advantage of sigint
Pastry is serious shit.
they did good at some of the Guadalcanal battles when they could leverage their training and decent ship designs. Battles around Java too.I mean, true.
DId the japs ever win a battle against the US in the pacific when numbers were even or in their favor?
The US just relied on pure balls of steelthey did good at some of the Guadalcanal battles when they could leverage their training and decent ship designs. Battles around Java too.
Ultimately though the USN was able to train new crews to better standards and could rely on more aggressive commanders as the war went on. If the Japanese had been more aggressive they would have done much better.
See Taffy 3, the great victory of testicular fortitude over tonnage
I mean, true.
DId the japs ever win a battle against the US in the pacific when numbers were even or in their favor?
they did good at some of the Guadalcanal battles when they could leverage their training and decent ship designs. Battles around Java too.
Ultimately though the USN was able to train new crews to better standards and could rely on more aggressive commanders as the war went on. If the Japanese had been more aggressive they would have done much better.
See Taffy 3, the great victory of testicular fortitude over tonnage
Don't forget the IJN's retarded damage control doctrine, which isolated repair parties to specific parts of the ship, and didn't train them in overall dam-con practices the same way the USN did.The US just relied on pure balls of steel
The US just relied on pure balls of steel
Don't forget the IJN's retarded damage control doctrine, which isolated repair parties to specific parts of the ship, and didn't train them in overall dam-con practices the same way the USN did.
The Japanese were often their own worst enemy, and we would have lost a lot more ships, planes and people to Japan if they had been just a bit more on-the-ball in their dam-con training and battle orders.
I thought it was Shinano that had the idiotic DC crew that left all the hatches open and resulted in her loss just outside Toyko Bay.Yeah that really didn't help, poor old Taiho.