Well I’ve got egg on my face now. I’ll admit I didn’t realize just how far back the Ukrainians had pushed back the Russians. I was of the mind that it was only a few miles in a handful of locations. Guess it’s what I get for not paying attention.
False. seePsihokek was functionally claiming that all the sources throwing up data he didn't like were government propagandists, paid to specifically produce propaganda.
by one side or another != "saying things I dislike"Most OSINTers are paid by one or other side, so you are still devouring propaganda
Yes. Exactly....So because they get paid, regardless of who pays them or why or how, it's propaganda.
you can't cut china out when you are manufacturing your stuff in factories in china.We really have to cut China out.
you can't cut china out when you are manufacturing your stuff in factories in china.
I think you misunderstood me. I am not saying that it is impossible to open factories anywhere but china.um man, Mexican labor was cheaper and more highly skilled then chinese labor before covid. The cost of chinese labor was going up for years before this because the cheap labor is running out. And when you add up all the costs? Its actually cheaper to have a factory in the us or mexico then china right now because of changing tech.
The only reason a lot of companies haven't bolted was innertia, which is going away as china locks down everything.
I think you misunderstood me. I am not saying that it is impossible to open factories anywhere but china.
I am saying that currently all of the western goods are produced in factories in china.
If you want to cut out china you first have to start building new factories. once you have those factories built, then you can cut out china.
Said "bullshit" being what I saw as the causes and effects of the Maidan coup, that you yourself agreed with me on. You see, this is what I'm talking about; once you start championing a cause your vision tunnels to the point of absurdity, and you start lashing out at people who disagree with or criticize you.So you stopped being informed about realities on the ground because people weren't humoring the bullshit you have spouted and called you out.
Most of the pro-Ru people in the political thread seem not to like to see the actual realities on the ground in the frontlines, because it is so very easy to call out their bullshit there and link to mountains of evidence that support the Ukrainian side and debunk the Ru side.
by one side or another != "saying things I dislike"
He is very clearly and very explicitly stated that it is propaganda regardless of which side it comes from. The stuff he likes is propaganda, the stuff he dislikes is propaganda. All sides are propaganda. This is what he said, and it is true.
You are still hung up on using the Maidan to excuse and reason away Putin's insanity, greed, and malice, while ignoring everything else that has happened in Ukraine since, it seems.Said "bullshit" being what I saw as the causes and effects of the Maidan coup, that you yourself agreed with me on. You see, this is what I'm talking about; once you start championing a cause your vision tunnels to the point of absurdity, and you start lashing out at people who disagree with or criticize you.
The core cause of Maidan coup and all that followed is that the clique running Russia is not very good at setting up a well functioning country. Even their military is a mess, and that's something they actually care about functioning, as in they are using it at least once a decade and need it to work. Imagine how they run all the things they care less about. This goes double for running their vassal states. Of course people got pissed finally and wanted new management. Would you want to live in a country like this or its vassal state? Here you have why Ukrainians supported a coup to stop being one. Are you going to tell them to suck it up because not doing so will hurt the feelings of Putin, his friends, and Russian imperial irredentists?Said "bullshit" being what I saw as the causes and effects of the Maidan coup, that you yourself agreed with me on. You see, this is what I'm talking about; once you start championing a cause your vision tunnels to the point of absurdity, and you start lashing out at people who disagree with or criticize you.
Well I’ve got egg on my face now. I’ll admit I didn’t realize just how far back the Ukrainians had pushed back the Russians. I was of the mind that it was only a few miles in a handful of locations. Guess it’s what I get for not paying attention.
I'm really not; the Maidan coup falls far short of an adequate excuse for what Putin/Russia has done in Ukraine. If they had gone in immediately after the coup, kept casualties to an absolute minimum, and avoided targeting the civilian population entirely? Then maybe; but that's not what's happened. That aside though, even back then my intent wasn't to say that the coup was an excuse; rather, it was an explanation (as the tail end of decades of NATO expansion, right up to Russia's border) for why they felt threatened, and did what they did. Much like how your post in another thread about how Japan was screwed in Versailles was an explanation for why they did what they did afterwards, but not an excuse.You are still hung up on using the Maidan to excuse and reason away Putin's insanity, greed, and malice, while ignoring everything else that has happened in Ukraine since, it seems.
I know what you got rightly called out for and what you ran away from that thread to avoid dealing with, and that you care more about people 'being nice' about arguing, than about facts on the ground, including the mountains of Russian war crimes against Ukraine.
You are not going to lecture me about 'tunnel vision', when you are the one suffering from it.
Iranian, not Syrian drone. Syria just gets them as assistance from Iran. Just like Russia .Well I guess Syria wants to fight on Russia's side. Several Shahed 136 drones were recovered with intact motherboards. Guess who they're from? US chips sold to Huawei, on Iranian motherboards inside a Syrian suicide drone. We really have to cut China out. The computers on board are the most expensive component of the drone apart from the payload. The bloody things are hand made. Some parts have hand tool marks bloody village forge level work with hammer and hot cutting. They repurposed a common 5 Hp lawn mower to power a drone 1000 km. With motorcycle engines for the larger Shahed 191
Necessity my friends. The great Mother of Invention.
Shahed-136 one-way attack drones (also known as kamikaze drones) – effectively slow, low-cost cruise missiles — have been supplied by Iran, but have been given a paint job and rebranded as Geran-2 by the Russians. And they are doing real damage.
facepalm. Are you even capable of making an argument that isn't a strawman?No, it isn't true.
Not all information is propaganda.