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  1. Jaenera Targaryen

    Dune part 2

    I think that was the whole point. He wanted to make them want for nothing, and in so doing, make them hate it. A psychological gambit that's akin to having people have all their favorite food and drink all the time, or letting them watch their favorite shows and movies and nothing else for...
  2. Jaenera Targaryen

    Dune part 2

    Considering that came from the so-called sequels written by Frank Herbert's son, YMMV on that. I don't consider them canon myself, but I won't belabor the point, but there are some fans out there who can get really militant about those books and their status.
  3. Jaenera Targaryen

    "Woke" Franchises

    Is that all?
  4. Jaenera Targaryen

    Dune part 2

    Yeah, which is why - like I said - Leto II engineered the Scattering. So when new tyrants appear, they won't have nearly the same degree of all-encompassing power that he had possessed, simply because there'd be no telling how many and exactly where all the various Human-settled worlds in the...
  5. Jaenera Targaryen

    Dune part 2

    Um, yes? That was even a thing in-universe, if you read the novels right to the very end. The problem was that despite what rationality and the lessons of history teach them, Humans love strong leaders and visionary figures. Leto II thus intended the Golden Path to not just free Humanity from...
  6. Jaenera Targaryen

    Dune part 2

    They couldn't be bothered to wait?
  7. Jaenera Targaryen

    "Woke" Franchises

    Bioware games in general seem to treat the whole LGBTQ thing very maturely. It's not treated as something special, or to push some kind of agenda, it just is. No different from heterosexual relationships, really. The closest they come to woke was in Inquisition, during Dorian's character arc...
  8. Jaenera Targaryen

    Dune part 2

    They fixed that in the second season (?), Children of Dune, while retaining all the good parts of the first season. Gave the whole thing a suitably Biblical theme, considering it revolves around the rise of the eponymous God-Emperor, Leto II Atreides, and the beginning of the Golden Path...
  9. Jaenera Targaryen

    Star Wars Star Wars Discussion Thread - LET THE PAST D-! Oh, wait, nevermind

    A part of me wants to be angry, as a long-time Sith partisan and SWTOR player...but I'm too old and mature for that, so I will just laugh, since it really is hilarious :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
  10. Jaenera Targaryen

    Star Wars Star Wars Discussion Thread - LET THE PAST D-! Oh, wait, nevermind

    Qui-Gon's Force Ghost: *disappointed tone* "My congratulations, on succeeding Palpatine as Emperor...of the first Galactic Empire, I believe he called it." Darth Vader: *side-eyes Qui-Gon* "Emperor? Empire? I won't betray Padme's ideals like he did...but the Republic needs firm leadership...
  11. Jaenera Targaryen

    Star Wars Star Wars Discussion Thread - LET THE PAST D-! Oh, wait, nevermind

    Except in this scenario, he would still have his children. He succeeded in 'saving' at least the latter, as in the original vision it seemed like they all died together. And he might still have saved her too, if not for the Jedi twisting her mind against him. Basically, for Vader, it's always...
  12. Jaenera Targaryen

    Star Wars Star Wars Discussion Thread - LET THE PAST D-! Oh, wait, nevermind

    Mas Amedda would be Supreme Chancellor, albeit a puppet one. Vader would be Supreme Commander, originally an office also held by the Supreme Chancellor at the start of the Clone Wars, but precedent exists for it to be held by someone else besides the Chancellor. Revan, for example, held the...
  13. Jaenera Targaryen

    Star Wars Star Wars Discussion Thread - LET THE PAST D-! Oh, wait, nevermind

    For a given value of ‘better’, of course. Vader’s Republic is practically a Greek tyranny, only with very good PR and good goals, but ultimately a military dictatorship. The Senate is kept in line by fear of Clone Troopers cracking down on any dissent, to say nothing of Vader’s personal power in...
  14. Jaenera Targaryen

    Star Wars Star Wars Discussion Thread - LET THE PAST D-! Oh, wait, nevermind

    Well, people will still need to work to eat, slavery ending doesn't change that, but I imagine Vader's going to set a strict policy against any abuses, again, because the Republic is supposed to be liberating and helping these people. Not simply replacing one set of masters with another. I...
  15. Jaenera Targaryen

    Star Wars Star Wars Discussion Thread - LET THE PAST D-! Oh, wait, nevermind

    More thoughts on why I think an unburnt Vader would prefer to maintain the form of democracy instead of ruling as an autocrat: he wants to see himself as a hero. Assuming the title of Emperor would leave a bitter taste in his mouth, as if he just vindicates all those stories and history lessons...
  16. Jaenera Targaryen

    Star Wars Star Wars Discussion Thread - LET THE PAST D-! Oh, wait, nevermind

    I'd give it a decade, at most. Probably less, maybe even as early as once Sidious has dealt with Yoda, and before he has a chance to recover (or prepare contingencies to resurrect himself), Vader appears and cuts him down. Mas Amedda immediately tries to curry favor ala that fat guy from...
  17. Jaenera Targaryen

    Star Wars Star Wars Discussion Thread - LET THE PAST D-! Oh, wait, nevermind

    Not much really changes, the Grand Plan's too along to really stop, and this might even give Sidious another way to drive a wedge between Anakin and the Order. That is, the Chancellor wanted him to be the one to deal with Grievous, only for the High Council to override the Chancellor, and send...
  18. Jaenera Targaryen

    Star Wars Star Wars Discussion Thread - LET THE PAST D-! Oh, wait, nevermind

    Eh, Sith ghosts being hostile to living Sith is pretty much par the course. If anything, Sidious would have been suspicious if they were all friendly and accepting of him. Instead, their attitude is pretty much what he'd expect, and that he'd have to threaten and bargain his way to getting...
  19. Jaenera Targaryen

    Star Wars Star Wars Discussion Thread - LET THE PAST D-! Oh, wait, nevermind

    Then I guess it's a good thing I don't give a damn what he thinks anymore. Even without that, it already works in the context of 'there is no death, there is the Force'.
  20. Jaenera Targaryen

    Star Wars Star Wars Discussion Thread - LET THE PAST D-! Oh, wait, nevermind

    Yeah, the post-Ruusan Order died with the Old Republic, with their successors reverting back to the old ways from before the Ruusan Reformations. Sure, some ultra-orthodox types eventually reared their heads, trying to once again impose age limitations and semi-celibacy rules*, but Luke always...
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