Politicians and Government Cringe Thread

Congress can fire them
Except you know the whole blackmail thing, along with the SES dudes always backing each other.

So even if many in Congress may want to fire members of it, they usually won't, because the leverage isn't actually on Congress's side of the ball anymore, it's in the SES's.

The best that usually happens is they are transferred somewhere that is either meaningless/powerless, or to a project/program that is going to be terminated soon.
 
SES can only be fired by congress.
That's the way it works.

They can also be forced to retire as well.
Which has been happening a lot, and they get Pikachu surprise faced when the service members that arnt SES complain and show why retention and recruitment are so low.
 
No, but going 'Congress can fire them' like Congress was a bastion of good faith and righteous is one of the stupidest fucking things I've ever seen you say, and the bar is already on the ground.
How does "Congress is the only party that can fire them" equal "Congress was a bastion of good faith and righteousness"?
That never came out of @Zachowon that I saw.
 
How does "Congress is the only party that can fire them" equal "Congress was a bastion of good faith and righteousness"?
That never came out of @Zachowon that I saw.

> Someone posts about Deep State and SES are among the worst of the worst
> 'Congress can fire them' like it's a big deal. Like Congress is a bastion of good faith and righteousness that has been rooting out the SES deep state

Congress has a long history of working with the Deep State.

If Zach's point about 'Congress can fire them' was in relation to how Trump couldn't do much against them, then he missed half a statement.

But responding to 'These guys are shitbags to get rid of' with 'These other shitbags who are in bed with the first group are the only people who can get rid of the first group of shitbags' like it's helpful beyond letting us know the swamp is swampy is pretty fucking dumb.

Edit: Without additional context, saying 'Only Congress can fire these specific bureaucrats' isn't all that helpful. If he'd been like 'Congress can fire them, but Congress right now amirite?' that would've been a better statement, and much more intelligent.

Double Edit: Saying the 'Joint Chiefs can't fire them, only Congress can,' would've been a much better statement as it's more informative. Just saying 'Only congress can fire these guys' implies more heavily that we should trust congress to do what the other posts wanted the Joint Chiefs to do.
 
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promotion hearing for a liberal activist judge.
john kennedy tears her a new one over her record. namely, that she is the 7th worst in the country.

she vascillates between saying she never heard of this before, and saying she discussed it with her colleagues and stands by record being fantastic.

she also advised the court as an "expert" to ban all assault weapons. Saying there no legitimate reason for home defense to own one.
when asked to define an assault weapon, she vacillated and mostly tried to deflect on how she didn't write it, she just signed it and told it to the court.
so... her defense is that she lied about being an expert.
and lied about having written it.
 
My God, you mean she isn't the worst?!
Hawaii has judges arguing that they are above the constitution. since Hawaii has historically restricted arms before being taken over by America their historical context means they can ignore the 2A. it is as dumb as it sounds. KGB and Sotomayor ask some very dumb questions if you read/listen to the SC. I would absolutely believe there are dumber/worse out there that couldn't advance further despite having the correct color and genitalia for the Left to push them for promotion. remember those are the best they can find while meting the correct intersectionality checkboxes and following the correct Ideology. there are always worse.
 
Hawaii has judges arguing that they are above the constitution. since Hawaii has historically restricted arms before being taken over by America their historical context means they can ignore the 2A. it is as dumb as it sounds. KGB and Sotomayor ask some very dumb questions if you read/listen to the SC. I would absolutely believe there are dumber/worse out there that couldn't advance further despite having the correct color and genitalia for the Left to push them for promotion. remember those are the best they can find while meting the correct intersectionality checkboxes and following the correct Ideology. there are always worse.
So Hawaii has judges that argue that “Historically Hawaii was a feudal state, and peons would not be allowed to take up arms against their betters”?

Refrased as:
“The the Constitution means nothing you dirty peons”!

Bold move Cotton
 
So Hawaii has judges that argue that “Historically Hawaii was a feudal state, and peons would not be allowed to take up arms against their betters”?

Refrased as:
“The the Constitution means nothing you dirty peons”!

Bold move Cotton
In fairness to Hawaii, it's not their argument alone. New York is making the similar argument that their modern gun restrictions are justified based on English-derived laws from before the Revolution barring Catholics from bearing arms (and restricting sales to Native Americans).

We're in full courtroom la-la land in a lot of places where there's not even a tenuous connection between what a law says and what a judge or political ideology wants it to.
 
In fairness to Hawaii, it's not their argument alone. New York is making the similar argument that their modern gun restrictions are justified based on English-derived laws from before the Revolution barring Catholics from bearing arms (and restricting sales to Native Americans).

We're in full courtroom la-la land in a lot of places where there's not even a tenuous connection between what a law says and what a judge or political ideology wants it to.
The legal logic of using pre-revolutionary English law to support voiding the Bill of Rights, would full under the chapters Baffling Bullshit.


America fought a war of independence to free ourselves from the feudalists. Individuals have sovereignty over themselves or the Constitution is dead and it is time to start tar and feathering political hacks that think they are better than the common man.
 
The legal logic of using pre-revolutionary English law to support voiding the Bill of Rights, would full under the chapters Baffling Bullshit.


America fought a war of independence to free ourselves from the feudalists. Individuals have sovereignty over themselves or the Constitution is dead and it is time to start tar and feathering political hacks that think they are better than the common man.
Worst.Old feudals at least try to help common people ,when they need it.At least most of them.

Now? new leftist oligarchs treat others like slaves,not commoners.
 
The legal logic of using pre-revolutionary English law to support voiding the Bill of Rights, would full under the chapters Baffling Bullshit.


America fought a war of independence to free ourselves from the feudalists. Individuals have sovereignty over themselves or the Constitution is dead and it is time to start tar and feathering political hacks that think they are better than the common man.

A white reporter asks three africans about the slave trade.

A South african, A Kenyan and a Nigerian.

"What's does your country think of the slave trade?"

The south african says.

"It was a horrible event in human history and we should thank god its over."

The kenyan says.

"It was a horrific event but there comes a time to forgive and move on."

The Nigerian stares at the man and says.

"No refunds."
 

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