there are several country that only seem to exist because of shear spite.
Ireland, Greece, and Poland being modern examples.
"TradWives" Triggering Unhappy Feminists
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there are several country that only seem to exist because of shear spite.
Ireland, Greece, and Poland being modern examples.
SoliFortissimi
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Ireland only exists because of protection from Britain, Greece because of money from Germany, and Poland because of Russians giving Germany the middle finger.
It's not sustainable.
Ireland as a island nation really only has to worry about a british invasion ending their independence, their unimportant enough no offense and defensable enough where conquest for the most part isn't worth it.
Greece, you have a point they basically self destructed hard.
Poland I do not know they learned quite a few lessons from the partitions and are a lot harder then they used to be.
SoliFortissimi
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Point being that modern (as in post-suffrage) feminists only seem to have a position of opposing everything antifeminist men propose, which in practice means opposing everything evangelicals and Chuds would like keeping or opposing.
Conservatives as a rule do not discribe themselves as chuds or even really use that word. Its not really a part of the old terminology. This more or less confirms the hypothesis that your a former left winger who got burned.
Which is a really common story.
As for feminism, its pretty obviously a movement that's self destructing as the world becomes harder and more miserable.
SoliFortissimi
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The 4chan crowd shouldn’t be associated with honest men trying to keep their heads above the deluge.
Blasterbot
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TLDW this is probably the best criticism of Tradwife that I've seen. basically people don't actually know what a Trad wife is. they are aping what they think it was. people look around at the modern world and lack companionship. so they idealize the past without understanding what it entails.
Just skimmed through this but, man does this remind me of some girls I have known
The secret lives of Shelby Hewitt, 32-year-old high school imposter - The Boston Globe
Cliff notes: 32 year old DCF worker pretending to be a teen high school girl with foster parents at a few different Boston highschools. And the people writing the article can't seem to figure out why a woman with a master's degree and a career would rather be high school girl. Can't seem to put two and two together that, maybe the life of a career woman isn't suitable for this girl who clearly wanted social companionship, sense of safety and boundaries, and to be apart of a large social community of peers - in this case, high school - again. Females need strong social bonds and a strong community and/or family to be happy. And just as importantly the safety, boundaries and sense of security it provides them. So many girls I know and have known that would do this same thing if they could pull it off. A few of them i've known intimately. Even down to the eating disorders.
The secret lives of Shelby Hewitt, 32-year-old high school imposter - The Boston Globe
Cliff notes: 32 year old DCF worker pretending to be a teen high school girl with foster parents at a few different Boston highschools. And the people writing the article can't seem to figure out why a woman with a master's degree and a career would rather be high school girl. Can't seem to put two and two together that, maybe the life of a career woman isn't suitable for this girl who clearly wanted social companionship, sense of safety and boundaries, and to be apart of a large social community of peers - in this case, high school - again. Females need strong social bonds and a strong community and/or family to be happy. And just as importantly the safety, boundaries and sense of security it provides them. So many girls I know and have known that would do this same thing if they could pull it off. A few of them i've known intimately. Even down to the eating disorders.
LordsFire
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This touches on one of the classic leftist modes of deception.
Women are generally more aggressively social and hungry for socialization than men, especially socialization that's about 'visiting' rather than 'engaging in a mutual hobby/job together.' Men also desire socialization and having a family, but usually it expresses in different particular ways, and isn't felt as keenly.
There are outlier women. Some women are less interested in this than the average man, much less average woman, and will thrive with a more 'masculine' lifestyle.
The classic lie that leftists tell, is they'll show you not just an outlier, but an extreme outlier, and then claim that all people in X group actually want to/should be like the outlier. "Marsha Brown actually is quite satisfied with her life where she has a full-time career, a husband with a full-time career, had one child when she was thirty-seven, and went back to working full time after six momths of maternity leave, so clearly all women want that!"
They won't mention, of course, that the child would be better served by more time with parents and less in a day-care, or that most women working full-time for most of their lives won't be able to get, much less keep a husband. Or that when she gets into her fifties and sixties, she's going to regret not spending more time with her child while they were growing up.
If you try to assert that just because some women want that, it isn't something all women want, you'll be branded as sexist, misogynistic, etc. Any degree of nuance is lost, you either agree with their most extreme position, or you're basically hitler.
One of the worst rhetorical traps that conservatives and libertarians can fall into, is trying to claim that such outlier women don't exist, because they do, and leftists will use it to make you look like a liar.
mrttao
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CHUD literally means "Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers"
While 4chan got a laugh at how fucking stupid the woke cultists are to use this as an insult. It is still a slur and one meant to dehumanize conservatives.
The fact you unironically use it is concerning.
SoliFortissimi
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They're not conservatives. They're not conserving traditions, they're trying to destroy them.
Ixian
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Living in fear because of a pervasive sexist ideology, commonly referred to a feminism.
The fact of the matter is that men are the most likely demographic to be the victims of violent crime, not women.
KilroywasNOTHere
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It's not that I don't think they are an outlier so much as they seem to be sort of superwomen that seem to thrive in whatever environment you put them in, they attract any men they cross paths with, they produce not only many but hardier children, and they seem to be of the top percentile of help mates. So I'm of the opinion that whether this is due to nurture or nature, things need to be cultivated to where they are less of an outlier. especially in this day and age.
Tl;DR tomboys for the win.
I think the blame for this lies on the modern anarcho-tyrannical state.
Since time immemorial, a woman's safety has been the protection of a male guardian: her father, or other relatives, or her husband.
This man had the full right to use all necessary violence to ensure her safety.
But under modern-day sicko regimes, this would be treated as a crime.
Ixian
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I think it's deeper than just that. Western women have been told for the last 80+ year that men are the enemy, the oppressors, the masters, they have been told men are unpredictable, violent, and hateful.
Simultaneously they have been told they are superior, are smarter, are just plain better. They have been told that if men would just get out of their way everything would be better.
The Bear Question is women voicing what they have been indoctrinated to believe by feminism.