United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread

The Immortal Watch Dog · Aug 15, 2021

Abhorsen said:
All doom posting has been moved to the doom thread.

https://www.the-sietch.com/index.php?threads/doom-doom-doom-doom-doom.2934/

Please, stop going into death spirals.

LOL calm down.

Chaos Marine said:
BREAKING: Biden Releases Statement Pledging To Accept Afghanistan Refugees, Maybe Reinvade Country, And Blames Trump

Biden is blaming Trump for the Taliban's rapid territorial gains and suggesting the United States may not be done with Afghanistan

nationalfile.com

He took time out of his busy schedule screaming at walls and groping his grandkids to say something stupid I see.

King Arts said:
That’s more because of trumps stupidity. He should have prepared the military to do that and ordered them to take down ANTIFA.

He did do this, the Pentagon refused his orders and in doing so committed treason against the nation.

Most of the leadership of the US armed forces serves Beijing.

Tiamat · Aug 15, 2021

The Immortal Watch Dog said:
He did do this, the Pentagon refused his orders and in doing so committed treason against the nation.

Most of the leadership of the US armed forces serves Beijing.

Actually the Pentagon DID follow his orders, he is, or was the Commander in Chief. They were in the process of withdrawal when Biden and his staff decided to kick it back several months and wanted the withdrawal done "their way", which has kind of amounted to this.

That said, the Pentagon, depending on the Administration has some leeway in interpreting those orders, and Trump for all his bellicosity is kind of a moron, though at least he has some brain matter between his ears unlike Biden.

But now suddenly, what grand conspiracy is this? The American military leadership is now supposedly serving Beijing? Please state your evidence.

Bigking321 · Aug 15, 2021

Tiamat said:
Actually the Pentagon DID follow his orders, he is, or was the Commander in Chief. They were in the process of withdrawal when Biden and his staff decided to kick it back several months and wanted the withdrawal done "their way", which has kind of amounted to this.

That said, the Pentagon, depending on the Administration has some leeway in interpreting those orders, and Trump for all his bellicosity is kind of a moron, though at least he has some brain matter between his ears unlike Biden.

But now suddenly, what grand conspiracy is this? The American military leadership is now supposedly serving Beijing? Please state your evidence.

They aren't talking about Afghanistan.

King Arts said Trump was stupid for not sending the military against antifa.

Immortal said that he did send the military and the Pentagon refused to comply.

Why did you think they were talking about the botched withdrawal?

DarthOne · Aug 15, 2021

just a reminder on just whose side Mr. Crenshaw is on.

The Immortal Watch Dog · Aug 15, 2021

Tiamat said:
But now suddenly, what grand conspiracy is this? The American military leadership is now supposedly serving Beijing? Please state your evidence.

None of what you rambled about in defense of the Wumaos in the Pentagon had anything to do with what I was talking about.

But while we are on the topic, those traitors did not begin Troop withdrawals under Trump. They lied to him and kept our assets in a bunch of those shitholes.

Bigking321 said:
They aren't talking about Afghanistan.

King Arts said Trump was stupid for not sending the military against antifa.

Immortal said that he did send the military and the Pentagon refused to comply.

Why did you think they were talking about the botched withdrawal?

There's a compulsion to defend the military no matter what amongst some.

We should never back any government agency, entity or organization blindly. Always assume as a macro they are inherently a threat to you, your children and your neighbors.

It's individual soldiers, cops and Generals who are deserving of loyalty and respect and never the whole.

Institutions exist to perpetuate themselves and foster a mediocrity at the expense of the people they no longer serve.

Individuals save nations.

The Original Sixth · Aug 15, 2021

Bacle said:

I can't overstate this enough.

If you think Biden is at fault for the entire Afghan military folding faster than a house of cards, then you've fallen into partisan politics. This is Afghanistan's fault. They had the money, they had the time, and they had the resources. If Afghan military power is so weak that it loses to the Taliban in two weeks, there is simply NOTHING that Biden could have done to make it better. Except to have maybe ordered an evacuation sooner than we're seeing now.

Honestly, Biden's only real mistake here is that he didn't order a general withdrawal of all Americans a day or so ago. And the only reason he wouldn't do that is because then there would have been no hope that Afghanistan would regroup. Now that the president has fled, our people should be removed immediately. Fuck the building. Level it and gut it with fire and bombs.

History Learner · Aug 15, 2021

We never should've fucking been there.....

Sobek · Aug 15, 2021

History Learner said:
We never should've fucking been there.....

I like to imagine that it is the exact same heli, as stupid as that sounds.

History Learner · Aug 15, 2021

Sobek said:
I like to imagine that it is the exact same heli, as stupid as that sounds.

It's actually not although not in the case of Helis; we've had B-52s on standby doing overwatch in Kabul for weeks now. Given the U.S. quit making B-52s a long fucking time ago, it's likely some of those BUFFs are the same exact ones that were flying over Vietnam back in the day and even Saigon in 1975...

Tiamat · Aug 15, 2021

@Bigking321 @immortalwatchdog, fair enough, this thread has been jumping around between topics so it’s hard to keep track, that said:

There’s a reason they didn’t send the military against antifa. It’s called Posse Comitatus. The Pentagon were not going to comply with an illegal order. They had law enforcement on hand to deal with that. And yes, In some of the blue cities it got handled poorly, but blame the city leadership for that.

In authoritarian regimes you deploy the military against civilians. That’s not how you handle it in a democracy. The US military takes orders from the civilian leadership but they’re beholden first and foremost to the laws of the US and the Constitution. Or are we supposed to ignore lawful process now when it suits us?

The Immortal Watch Dog · Aug 15, 2021

Tiamat said:
@Bigking321 @immortalwatchdog, fair enough, this thread has been jumping around between topics so it’s hard to keep track, that said:

There’s a reason they didn’t send the military against antifa. It’s called Posse Comitatus. The Pentagon were not going to comply with an illegal order. They had law enforcement on hand to deal with that. And yes, In some of the blue cities it got handled poorly, but blame the city leadership for that.

In authoritarian regimes you deploy the military against civilians. That’s not how you handle it in a democracy. The US military takes orders from the civilian leadership but they’re beholden first and foremost to the laws of the US and the Constitution. Or are we supposed to ignore lawful process now when it suits us?

They breached the white house gates, they were literally burning down the nation's capitol and raped over two thousand women when they did so.

We posted footage of Chinese people issuing orders and directing the attack on the white house and the church. Obvious foreigners and people who spoke the language used were adamant that they were directing the mob.

These generals committed treason and sided with the enemy and allowed our federal capitol to burn.

Fuck the institutions, defend the people.

gral · Aug 15, 2021

Sobek said:
I like to imagine that it is the exact same heli, as stupid as that sounds.

Nitpicking, but they aren't even the same model: The one in Saigon was a Marine CH-46 Sea Knight, while the one in Kabul is an Army CH-47 Chinook. The Chinook is almost twice as heavy as the Sea Knight, IIRC.

Sobek · Aug 15, 2021

OpSec schmop sex who cares right?

DarthOne · Aug 15, 2021

The Immortal Watch Dog said:
They breached the white house gates, they were literally burning down the nation's capitol and raped over two thousand women when they did so.

We posted footage of Chinese people issuing orders and directing the attack on the white house and the church. Obvious foreigners and people who spoke the language used were adamant that they were directing the mob.

These generals committed treason and sided with the enemy and allowed our federal capitol to burn.

Fuck the institutions, defend the people.

Citation needed on pretty much all that, thank you.

Sobek · Aug 15, 2021

Yeah I vividly remember Antifa and BLM acting quite autistically and breaking stuff and starting some small fires and a lot of littering and garbage but no White House breech or rapes going on.

History Learner · Aug 15, 2021

gral said:
Nitpicking, but they aren't even the same model: The one in Saigon was a Marine CH-46 Sea Knight, while the one in Kabul is an Army CH-47 Chinook. The Chinook is almost twice as heavy as the Sea Knight, IIRC.

Department of State still uses Sea Knights; there is actually photos coming out of Kabul now of us using Sea Knights on the Embassy grounds lol. It's literally Saigon 2.0 right now.

The Immortal Watch Dog · Aug 15, 2021

DarthOne said:
Citation needed on pretty much all that, thank you.

Umm you guys posted videos of it while it was happening...

Sobek said:
Yeah I vividly remember Antifa and BLM acting quite autistically and breaking stuff and starting some small fires and a lot of littering and garbage but no White House breech or rapes going on.

Probably should start consulting alternative news sources then,...but there was documented evidence here in this very section.

As to the rapes and mass murders done during the great Fentanyl Floyd rebellion, basically Townhall.com was the only entity that bothered to chronicle that outside amateurs and they undershot it.

From crime stats of each city, the rape rate was..high...the murder rate was not as high but high.

DarthOne · Aug 15, 2021

The Immortal Watch Dog said:
Umm you guys posted videos of it while it was happening...

Probably should start consulting alternative news sources then,...but there was documented evidence here in this very section.

As to the rapes and mass murders done during the great Fentanyl Floyd rebellion, basically Townhall.com was the only entity that bothered to chronicle that outside amateurs and they undershot it.

From crime stats of each city, the rape rate was..high...the murder rate was not as high but high.

Then you should have no problem finding them, including the ‘raped thousands of women’, ‘taking orders from the chinese’ and ‘breached the WH’ claims.

On a different subject, the Afghan reboot to the Libya Refugee Crisis is gonna be L I T

The Immortal Watch Dog · Aug 15, 2021

DarthOne said:
Then you should have no problem finding them, including the ‘raped thousands of women’, ‘taking orders from the chinese’ and ‘breached the WH’ claims.

I'm not slogging through hundreds of pages because you're skeptical that the fallen state that we live in, would engage in acts of brutality against its own people at the behest of another Government.

Because you should all know by now, it does it all the time.

We live under tyrannical rule, with no law and order and no functioning system.

History Learner · Aug 15, 2021

Sobek said:
Yeah I vividly remember Antifa and BLM acting quite autistically and breaking stuff and starting some small fires and a lot of littering and garbage but no White House breech or rapes going on.

There was no direct breach but Trump was evacuated to the Bunker and there was street fighting between BLM members and the Secret Service as the former tried to break the defense perimeter around the White House.

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