Russian Invasion of Ukraine 2022

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Arlos

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Husky_Khan said:
Reportedly video of Russians showing off captured foreign Anti-Tank missiles and ordinance outside of Kyiv.



Ukrainian fire reportedly strikes a Russian munitions vehicle and causes a fireworks show from the ammo cookoff.



Putin approves a new law allowing Russia to seize several hundred foreign planes currently located in Russia from Western leasing companies.



Alleged picture of a Russian restaurant menu with marked up prices.



Another Kalashnikov Loitering Munition/"Kamikaze" Drone crashes near Kyiv without detonating... yet?



Fox News Cameraman was killed near Kyiv by incoming fire. Fox News Reporter Benjamin Hall was injured when their vehicle was struck. Dude had quite the 'stache and was a longtime war cameraman, covering among other locales Iraq and Afghanistan previously.

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Fox News cameraman Pierre Zakrzewski killed in Ukraine

Veteran Fox News cameraman Pierre Zakrzewski has died after his vehicle was struck by incoming fire in Horenka, outside Kyiv, Ukraine, on Monday, Fox News Media CEO Suzanne Scott announced Tuesday.
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...Well, those planes are going to hurt me personally, fuck.
Tough I am not to surprised with how the situation has become that it has come to this.
 
Sobek

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Husky_Khan said:
Putin approves a new law allowing Russia to seize several hundred foreign planes currently located in Russia from Western leasing companies.


www.foxnews.com

Fox News cameraman Pierre Zakrzewski killed in Ukraine

Veteran Fox News cameraman Pierre Zakrzewski has died after his vehicle was struck by incoming fire in Horenka, outside Kyiv, Ukraine, on Monday, Fox News Media CEO Suzanne Scott announced Tuesday.
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I mean, not to defend him or anything but... Kind of their fault? Why would you sanction Russia BEFORE taking your valuable planes out of the country where they can't be seized?
 
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Arlos said:
No one informed them, or probably even considered them, also not that simple to move them if they were in stockage/CAMO...
Predictable, but overall annoying.
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Guess they didn't think Russia is going to do something this questionable as a counter-sanction. The reality of the situation is that this means Russian government take another major hit to its trustworthiness (people compared this to going back to 1917) while gaining absolutely nothing - can't get parts and manufacturer support for the planes anyway, and if they are flown or sold to third countries they will be confiscated. After few weeks at most they will become overly expensive chunks of scrap as far as Russia is concerned.
If they try to use them for internal connections based on duct tape and knock off parts, some of their people will die a fiery death sooner rather than later, as modern western airliners are not tolerant of such maintenance practices.
 
Arlos

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Marduk said:
Guess they didn't think Russia is going to do something this questionable as a counter-sanction. The reality of the situation is that this means Russian government take another major hit to its trustworthiness (people compared this to going back to 1917) while gaining absolutely nothing - can't get parts and manufacturer support for the planes anyway, and if they are flown or sold to third countries they will be confiscated. After few weeks at most they will become overly expensive chunks of scrap as far as Russia is concerned.
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I meant that no one in the western nation leadership informed leasing company that sanctions were going to be this severe, swift, and total, the moment the sanctions fell everyone became aware that the planes would be seized, but it was too late to do anything about it.
Those planes becoming scrap metal isn’t to our advantages either, since banks actually buy them through leasing company as hard, secure assets with our money...
Lot of people crying in Dublin today I fear.
 
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Arlos said:
I meant that no one in the western nation leadership informed leasing company that sanctions were going to be this severe, swift, and total, the moment the sanctions fell everyone became aware that the planes would be seized, but it was too late to do anything about it.
Those planes becoming scrap metal isn’t to our advantages either, since banks actually buy them through leasing company as hard, secure assets with our money...
Lot of people crying in Dublin today I fear.
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TBH it took about 3 weeks (if it passes as quickly as expected) for the planes to be seized after the war started. The writing was on the wall even sooner, but that was the Rubicon moment, they had to get the planes out of Russia ASAP. WTF were they doing over these 3 weeks?
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Zelenski finally admitting what any sane person has understood for a while.
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Well duh. Probably some sort of political maneuver to demonstrate another thing everyone with more than one brain cell know. It was never about NATO. Sure, Russia considers Ukraine's NATO membership a problem, if it was to happen, while everyone knew it wasn't going to happen anytime soon, at least no sooner than 5-10 years at best, if ever. But that's just one of many, handpicked as most PR friendly thing to whine about in front of western audiences, likely to get most sympathetic response (apparently quite correctly guessed).
However, the greatest issue Russia has with Ukraine as-is, is the lack of a government willing to take commands from Moscow, whether backed by threats, bribes or orders.
That's a fundamental break from the kind of relationship with Ukraine that Moscow is used to and feels entitled to.
Of course that's not a very PR friendly reason, so its not put waved around much.
 
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Arlos

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Marduk said:
TBH it took about 3 weeks (if it passes as quickly as expected) for the planes to be seized after the war started. The writing was on the wall even sooner, but that was the Rubicon moment, they had to get the planes out of Russia ASAP. WTF were they doing over these 3 weeks?

Well duh. Probably some sort of political maneuver to demonstrate another thing everyone with more than one brain cell know. It was never about NATO. Sure, Russia considers Ukraine's NATO membership a problem, if it was to happen, while everyone knew it wasn't going to happen anytime soon, at least no sooner than 5-10 years at best, if ever. But that's just one of many, handpicked as most PR friendly thing to whine about in front of western audiences, likely to get most sympathetic response (apparently quite correctly guessed).
However, the greatest issue Russia has with Ukraine as-is, is the lack of a government willing to take commands from Moscow, whether backed by threats, bribes or orders.
That's a fundamental break from the kind of relationship with Ukraine that Moscow is used to and feels entitled to.
Of course that's not a very PR friendly reason, so its not put waved around much.
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Too dangerous, nobody wanted to send people to retrieve them, and nobody wanted to go no matter the pay, it’s fair I guess, we seize their boats they seize our planes, the whole situation still annoy me, I hope our subcontractors in Ukraine don’t die…
 
Arlos

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Marduk said:
I find it hard to believe considering the stakes. Could throw in a million or two of USD per plane in salary bonuses and it still would be very worthwhile. Guess the management was very much unwilling to make such radical moves so quickly though, so here we are, too late.
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There is always the problem of responsability, you know how it goes, everyone throw the potatoes at each other in order to avoid it, the hotter the potatoes, the less they want it…
 
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Putin Has A Problem: Ukraine Is Getting an Arsenal of Weapons from the West

Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine has shocked many countries into departing long-standing neutrality policies and are donating weapons.
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>Italy giving Ukraine modified MG42s

Ruskie's will be running into the same machine gun fire their grandfather's did.

Edit: Harris being a dumb bitch again:


Ukraine isn't in NATO, you dumb bitch.
 
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Chiron

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Agent23 said:
More trophes that will probably be sold to the Houthis or Assad.
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They captured so many, they can't even load it all. Also shows how little these weapons actually matter in the fight. We see all the UkA successes due to survivor bias, what we don't see is all the UkA failures that got wasted before even engaging or had to abort. We also see time and again on some videos that Russian passive defenses prevent catastrophic kills allowing their repair and return to battle or just shrugged up the hit.



When in doubt, leave it to the artillery comrades.





UkA War Industry and Depots being systematically destroyed.

 
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Chiron said:
They captured so many, they can't even load it all. Also shows how little these weapons actually matter in the fight. We see all the UkA successes due to survivor bias, what we don't see is all the UkA failures that got wasted before even engaging or had to abort. We also see time and again on some videos that Russian passive defenses prevent catastrophic kills allowing their repair and return to battle or just shrugged up the hit.



When in doubt, leave it to the artillery comrades.





UkA War Industry and Depots being systematically destroyed.

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Everybody knew,that Putin would win his war.But - if they captured that many,and have so much success,why they do not win yet? Yu are naive,if you belive KGB propaganda.

And about artillery - it is not show of good army,but bad one.Here:



Kamil Galeev
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W odpowiedzi do @kamilkazani
Conclusions about the Russian artillery-centric army are not wrong. But they must be considered in political context. You must be artillery centric, if you have low morale troops. Nobody respects them, they have no self respect either. They can't stand the close range fight


Kamil Galeev
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If regime trained capable high morale infantry with intelligent officers, it'd constitute a mortal political threat. So it will maintain low morale incapable infantry with the dumbest officers possible and kill brighter ones. Artillery is way to fight *somehow* with these troops
6:51 PM · 12 mar 2022

Taking Ukraine is one of Putin goals - other is bleeding his army,so nobody would made putch to save Russia from KGB mafias occuping it.
 
The Original Sixth

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Okay redditors, you arent hunting goat herders equipped with AK 47s and rpgs while enjoying complete air dominance. You are facing a peer level military with material and air superiority. Your hyperreality image of yourself as a superhero punching Nazis gets smashed to kibble in the face of the actual reality of cruise missiles and autocannon.
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A copy of the original reddit post.

Confessions from a "Legion" Soldier that left Ukraine and went back home

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Agent23

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Chiron said:
They captured so many, they can't even load it all. Also shows how little these weapons actually matter in the fight. We see all the UkA successes due to survivor bias, what we don't see is all the UkA failures that got wasted before even engaging or had to abort. We also see time and again on some videos that Russian passive defenses prevent catastrophic kills allowing their repair and return to battle or just shrugged up the hit.



When in doubt, leave it to the artillery comrades.





UkA War Industry and Depots being systematically destroyed.

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Yeah, I think I said before that for every Ukrainian posturing with one after an alleged kill there are pics of a hell of a lot more captured by the Russians.
My theory was that they were actually shit, the Russians managed to counter them, or the simple truth is that the Ukrainian army is deserting or falling back in uncontrolled retreat.

Or all of the above.

My first thought when I saw the cope cage was WTF, my second after I heard that some of these things have heat seeking was, um, maybe that is a radiator?
 
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Rumored war crime committed by Russian soldiers.

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