A History Of The Sietch/SB PM Ban Compilation and Discussion thread.

SuperS4

I'll put something witty here eventually.
NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST ACCURATELY POINT OUT THE PROBLEM..WHY DON'T YOU JUST LEAVE SO MY FRIENDS AREN'T BOOTYBLASTED AND CAN SAVE FACE!

Fuck off you clown, you were a shit mod on SB and a disgrace as a human being and that hasn't changed at all in the intervening years.

I'll go out as I've always gone out...Swinging.
Well, from my point of view; you're going out like a child throwing a tantrum.

I mean if you equate that as "swinging", I guess impotently swinging your arms flailing about might qualify.

Also, people on this forum keep bringing up me being a mod on SB. Glad I live rent free in your head cuz I have fuck all clue who the fuck you are. So I mean, yay for that I guess?
 

Emperor Tippy

Merchant of Death
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NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST ACCURATELY POINT OUT THE PROBLEM..WHY DON'T YOU JUST LEAVE SO MY FRIENDS AREN'T BOOTYBLASTED AND CAN SAVE FACE!

Fuck off you clown, you were a shit mod on SB and a disgrace as a human being and that hasn't changed at all in the intervening years.

I'll go out as I've always gone out...Swinging.
That's nice.

You've been a persistent problem on this site. Be it in appeals, where you do nothing but attack staff and allege grand conspiracies against you. Or in subscriptions, where you caused issues with PayPal. Or in general behavior, where you regularly flout the letter and spirit of the rules (kinda like you are doing right now).

You have repeatedly and consistently been shown mercy not just beyond the point where it may have been warranted but to the point where it has almost become farcical.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
Long story short : got banned thrice by alternatehistory.com for three different reasons and one by sufficient velocity. Last time on alternatehistory I was declared a toxic poster from Ian because I told another poster his/her history of garden variety antisemitism. The quote was the individual said "I hope the Germans get you".

If that doesn't sound made up.

I would describe myself as politically no- nonsense and syncretic.
 
Well, that was certainly a read. I'm glad I missed all that drama.

Anyway, I was introduced to the site by way of a fic recommendation I can't remember the source of. But the story was "I don't wanna be famous". I'm not super heavy into the forum part of things, so when I'm not here for that story I mostly drop in to see if any of the fandoms I like have a new story.

One of these days... One of these days I'm going to check this site and find a new SI BTVS story like I've been hoping for. If it happens I might crap a brick out of pure excitement lol
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
I am negatively impressed on how things rolled out in the "fan" world of fantasy, science fiction and creative fiction (written, directed or otherwise) in the Anglosphere and I joined forums PRETTY much LATE, when the bullshit had already started and infected everywhere.

As far as I am aware, Brazil and Italy are LARGELY unaffected by this cancer to this day. Except occasional blimps like this.

Marvel fires Brazilian comic artist who made ‘pro-Bolsonaro’ illustration - Play Crazy Game

I did join Sietch after some bit of research, don't remember what the keywords I used. Why did I research the Sietch ?

Well :

  • On that depraved degenerate dishonest parasitic pool of alternatehistory.com :
  1. Banned first time and being accused of being a white supremacist (DESPITE I PUBLICLY SAID I WAS ITALO-BRAZILIAN) because I used a user-made flag of the Italian Social Movement.
  2. Banned because COVID stuff
  3. Banned for calling bullshit on FBI monitoring protesting parents, telling and the vague accusation of anti-semitism of being still prevalent to the degree of the poster saying that he heard someone saying/joking to another person "I hope the German get you!
They are so much witch-hunting they accused another poster of being me because according to that user we shared similar views.
  • Sufficient Velocity :
I simply said I didn't like the Last of Us DLC because of the LGBT orientation. Again if I remember correctly, they went as far as delete-remove my comments and user!

I recently joined SB but I have posted only to get technical info.
 

Justaquestion12

New member
I realize this might be me using the dark arts of necromancy but I did notice some of the comments are years apart so here goes. And if I am using those foul magics I apologize.

I discovered this site by complete blind luck, I was looking at the non nsfw creative writing on questionable questing for a change and what do I find? "I get to conquer the Federation?" By jaenera-targaryen. I read this back in 2020 before it got threadlocked because the trekys got butt hurt that the federation was getting its shit kicked in.

I figured The story was abandoned and moved on with my life. Then I saw the thread on QV and I'm like wwhhaaatt. This site gets mentioned in the thread, I get curious and what do I see but 9 more chapters than I remember before the story got thread locked on SB.
 

Abhorsen

Local Degenerate
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Comrade
Osaul
I realize this might be me using the dark arts of necromancy but I did notice some of the comments are years apart so here goes. And if I am using those foul magics I apologize.

I discovered this site by complete blind luck, I was looking at the non nsfw creative writing on questionable questing for a change and what do I find? "I get to conquer the Federation?" By jaenera-targaryen. I read this back in 2020 before it got threadlocked because the trekys got butt hurt that the federation was getting its shit kicked in.

I figured The story was abandoned and moved on with my life. Then I saw the thread on QV and I'm like wwhhaaatt. This site gets mentioned in the thread, I get curious and what do I see but 9 more chapters than I remember before the story got thread locked on SB.
Well we are really glad to have you, and glad to know you found the site!
 

Spartan303

In Captain America we Trust!
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Osaul
I realize this might be me using the dark arts of necromancy but I did notice some of the comments are years apart so here goes. And if I am using those foul magics I apologize.

I discovered this site by complete blind luck, I was looking at the non nsfw creative writing on questionable questing for a change and what do I find? "I get to conquer the Federation?" By jaenera-targaryen. I read this back in 2020 before it got threadlocked because the trekys got butt hurt that the federation was getting its shit kicked in.

I figured The story was abandoned and moved on with my life. Then I saw the thread on QV and I'm like wwhhaaatt. This site gets mentioned in the thread, I get curious and what do I see but 9 more chapters than I remember before the story got thread locked on SB.

Do you know how long it's been since I've used this meme? Far too long!

thread_necromancy_5.jpg


Always brings a smile to my face. Don't worry, we don't have a thread necromancy policy. I just use it for the laughs.

As for the Author, they haven't been on the site in a while (at least when I last checked) but our creative writing section has only recently picked up steam in the last few months.

Oh and Welcome to the Sietch.
 

Karmic Acumen

Well-known member
I came here following Speaker4theSilent's sadly canceled Fate/SM quest. I had no idea about the drama, but I had seen the Sietch being mentioned once (resentfully) before that. Then I kept coming back to use as an extra place for my stories. And because the political threads don't make me want to jump out the window.

I mean, I'd be fine because I live on the ground floor, but it's the principle of the thing.

I just wish this site could grow a bit more. Looking at the 'number of users' stat makes the sadface. Where even are the other sane forum users from the other places? The ones who don't bother with anything outside creative writing anymore?

It's not like there's any other message board they hang out in. I've been looking, but nada.

That anarchist SB spinoff notwithstanding. I have no idea what that is.
 

Amused Bystander

Hear me Umu!!!
I realize this might be me using the dark arts of necromancy but I did notice some of the comments are years apart so here goes. And if I am using those foul magics I apologize.

I discovered this site by complete blind luck, I was looking at the non nsfw creative writing on questionable questing for a change and what do I find? "I get to conquer the Federation?" By jaenera-targaryen. I read this back in 2020 before it got threadlocked because the trekys got butt hurt that the federation was getting its shit kicked in.

I figured The story was abandoned and moved on with my life. Then I saw the thread on QV and I'm like wwhhaaatt. This site gets mentioned in the thread, I get curious and what do I see but 9 more chapters than I remember before the story got thread locked on SB.

Same thing with me. I was trawling through QQ when i saw "I get to conquer the Federation" mentioned and checked out the site.
 

Free-Stater 101

Freedom Means Freedom!!!
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Same thing with me. I was trawling through QQ when i saw "I get to conquer the Federation" mentioned and checked out the site.
I figured The story was abandoned and moved on with my life. Then I saw the thread on QV and I'm like wwhhaaatt. This site gets mentioned in the thread, I get curious and what do I see but 9 more chapters than I remember before the story got thread locked on SB.
Welcome to the site both of you! Anyone is welcome! Feel free to post anywhere if you have any general questions about us, comments or concerns feel free to make them known to the staff or even general members.
I just wish this site could grow a bit more. Looking at the 'number of users' stat makes the sadface. Where even are the other sane forum users from the other places? The ones who don't bother with anything outside creative writing anymore?
While I won't get into the specifics as I don't want to turn this into another complaining about other forums thread, (We have that in NSFW Polics for those who are interested) I will say that we don't draw as many apolitical writer's due to a number of factors.

The first and biggest one is that this forum was founded in no small part due to political drama on SB centered around the Whitehall area that most apolitical already wanted nothing to do with and thus when we were founded few of them caught onto our existence.

The second is that any mentions of us especially on our larger sister sites SB or SV are faced with immediate suppression or social isolation.

The third is that people smear us when we are bought up to make us seem more irrelevant and a worse of a place than we actually are. (We are admittedly rougher around the edges than out sister sites, but we are nowhere near as radical as some would suggest there are far, far, worse on the internet.)

The fourth is we are often too political in areas we shouldn't be which is why our owner @LordSunhawk is making an initiative to grow our non-politics subforums and rearrange our forum's structure to better facilitate keeping politics separate from places like Vs. political WI's or keeping culture war discussion in fandom separate from general fandom discussion where it has no general business being.

We are growing, though our rate isn't fantastic it's nothing to scoff at either and for a forum of our size we are moderately healthy in growth.
Do you know how long it's been since I've used this meme? Far too long!
Fun fact! I once saw someone on another forum necro a thread that was over twenty years old the mods' reaction was hilarious.
 
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Spartan303

In Captain America we Trust!
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Osaul
I came here following Speaker4theSilent's sadly canceled Fate/SM quest. I had no idea about the drama, but I had seen the Sietch being mentioned once (resentfully) before that. Then I kept coming back to use as an extra place for my stories. And because the political threads don't make me want to jump out the window.

I mean, I'd be fine because I live on the ground floor, but it's the principle of the thing.

I just wish this site could grow a bit more. Looking at the 'number of users' stat makes the sadface. Where even are the other sane forum users from the other places? The ones who don't bother with anything outside creative writing anymore?

It's not like there's any other message board they hang out in. I've been looking, but nada.

That anarchist SB spinoff notwithstanding. I have no idea what that is.

By all means, ask other authors to come over. We're not asking them to abandon other sites, just asking them to cross pollinate to the Sietch. Get more exposure.
 

Ash's Boomstick

Well-known member
I already let people know on SB why I left the forum, but I suppose it shouldn't be too much of a problem putting it here as well.

For several years I had been a moderator, I took over at request from some of the SMods there and did everything I could to keep reports down and people aware that I was trying to be a fair and just moderator.My way of thinking as a mod was that if I believed that someone was breaching the rules, it didn't matter who it was, they were hit with an infraction. I hit staff members, newcomers, people who had been there for longer than I had. Every one of them was if I believed they be punished, that was it.

Sometimes I may have been wrong, I'm only a human and quite often I was doing the job of a half dozen or more moderators, occasionally having to do over one hundred reports in two days because no-one else could be bothered. If people wanted to complain about it or ask for an appeal, I would go over it with them and with the SMODs.

There were times that I was overruled one way or another, if I thought someone else was wrong I'd be ignored even if it turned out afterwards that I was in fact right. It was having to deal with people from all sides of the political spectrum that had me decide enough was enough. I had come into conflict with other staff because most were lazy and did nothing, I had been forced more than once to fix the problems by burning through hundreds of reports a week, usually most could have been done in a minute or two either because they were spurious or very basic zero or ten point infractions.

I also refused to tow the line for either side I any way as I am apolitical, I distrust politics and those that use it to their own ends (like most people in power) and so in the end I got in shit for infracting people who apparently ‘shouldn’t have been’ because of who and what they were, even though they had breached the rules. So in the end I left the forum due to its politics, I do not follow one side or another, especially American politics due to not being an American myself. In fact I was not aware of what was happening there regarding the left/right conflict due to a prolonged time away from the site. I believe that politics should have had nothing to do with a science fiction forum.

All kinds of ideas and thoughts I had to make things easier for the staff in general was ignored or pissed on for one reason or another, only for those same ideas to end up in use several months later as if it was a new and revolutionary idea (This was both in front and behind the scenes). I was also ignored for any form of SMod promotion due to my actions, again because I didn't kowtow to anyone and dared to infract anyone who needed to be, politics be damned.

In fact I have been asked to return to SB to take up a position again and i said no because of said politics, its choking the place and honestly I can't say I'd be shocked if it went the way of the dodo one day. Will I ever go back? No not with the way the place is, to be honest I don't miss it and I don't care for most of the people there anymore.
 

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