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Wargamer08

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The only people he needs to influence are his neighbors, not everyone on the Right.

All the dank meme's in the world won't matter if the people who can actually vote him in are more...old fashioned in their media consumption.

People who built him up as some sort of national political figure put their cart before the horse. He didn't ask to be your hero, he was stuck in a serious legal jam, and is still dealing with the fallout from it.

Far easier to run effectively when you aren't dealing with pending legal issues, and he needs to build goodwill in his own community more than he needs to satisfy the imaginations of people who aren't his voters.
Rosa Parks didn’t play it safe and just obey the law and pay her fine. That why we know her name and how she helped get the laws changed. Nobody wins a medal for taking the safe path. There are no prudent heroes.
 

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Rosa Parks didn’t play it safe and just obey the law and pay her fine. That why we know her name and how she helped get the laws changed. Nobody wins a medal for taking the safe path. There are no prudent heroes.
Again, the only people who's views on this man matter are the people of his district who can vote him in.

He is not even close to a 'Rosa Parks' figure, and people need to stop trying to view him that way.

He could make all the grandiose gestures and fight the long legal battle over the felonies to appease people like you, but not win anything because the people who can actually vote him in may not hold the same views as you.

Hero's can be prudent, in fact many hero's get lessons on patience in mythology, because rushing into things based on pride is an easy way to fuck things up.
 

Wargamer08

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Again, the only people who's views on this man matter are the people of his district who can vote him in.

He is not even close to a 'Rosa Parks' figure, and people need to stop trying to view him that way.

He could make all the grandiose gestures and fight the long legal battle over the felonies to appease people like you, but not win anything because the people who can actually vote him in may not hold the same views as you.

Hero's can be prudent, in fact many hero's get lessons on patience in mythology, because rushing into things based on pride is an easy way to fuck things up.
If he has any ambitions on a national scale, they are gone. He decided that accepting a fine of more then most Americans make in a month, full confiscation of his weapon and admitting guilt is a reasonable outcome for the act of brandishing weapons against a possibility murderous mob. While certainly the safe path, he further empowered his enemies, showed a distinctive lack of resolve and confidence while proving that he would lick of the boots of anyone with power over him rather that risk a fight he might lose.

He feared his fate too much.
 

Bacle

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If he has any ambitions on a national scale, they are gone. He decided that accepting a fine of more then most Americans make in a month, full confiscation of his weapon and admitting guilt is a reasonable outcome for the act of brandishing weapons against a possibility murderous mob. While certainly the safe path, he further empowered his enemies, showed a distinctive lack of resolve and confidence while proving that he would lick of the boots of anyone with power over him rather that risk a fight he might lose.

He feared his fate too much.
He can still make the national scale as Senator for the people who can actually vote him in.

I do not think he has aspirations for the Oval Office, which would be the only level of 'national' above the Senate.

Only the views of the people who can actually vote for him should matter to this man.
 

Cherico

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He can still make the national scale as Senator for the people who can actually vote him in.

I do not think he has aspirations for the Oval Office, which would be the only level of 'national' above the Senate.

Only the views of the people who can actually vote for him should matter to this man.

Good work can be done in the senante.
 

Bacle

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Good work can be done in the senante.
Exactly, which is why I find a lot of the complaints about this man 'hurting his chances on the national scene' to be hilariously out of touch with the reality.

I do not think I have seen a single person who is in his district, and thus has a view/opinion McCluskey actually has to care about, complain about his taking the misdemeanor instead of going for the full felony trial.

Comparing this man to Rosa fucking Parks is taking things way too far.
 

Wargamer08

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Exactly, which is why I find a lot of the complaints about this man 'hurting his chances on the national scene' to be hilariously out of touch with the reality.

I do not think I have seen a single person who is in his district, and thus has a view/opinion McCluskey actually has to care about, complain about his taking the misdemeanor instead of going for the full felony trial.

Comparing this man to Rosa fucking Parks is taking things way too far.
Maybe part of that is because you personally don’t give a shit about personal defence and firearm rulings?

Maybe I’m wrong and his district wants a guy who folds up to DA pressure. I mean, he would hardly be the first spineless senator, so his surrender might not matter at all. But just going along with the status quo to avoid risk isn’t popular these days, just look at DeSantis.
 

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Maybe part of that is because you personally don’t give a shit about personal defence and firearm rulings?

Maybe I’m wrong and his district wants a guy who folds up to DA pressure. I mean, he would hardly be the first spineless senator, so his surrender might not matter at all. But just going along with the status quo to avoid risk isn’t popular these days, just look at DeSantis.
DeSantis is doing fine, and probably will be on the 2024 GOP POTUS ticket, and McCluskey isn't DeSantis with the state power to protect him.

You do not seem to get that what McCluskey did was force the courts to hand down a far lesser charge than the DA wanted, avoid all the legal fees and hassle of a trial (one he may not win if the jury or judge are picked for partisan reasons), and set himself up in a good position to campaign for the Senate seat without this hanging over him.

I do give a shit about firearms and defense rulings, but I am not expecting protecting the 2A to hinge on this man dragging this to a felony trial, when he could do more for the 2A, and a lot of other things, in a Senate seat.

You call this folding to DA pressure, but the charges he got were a face-saving measure by the DA, because the DA could not let them get off scotfree without fear of what the Woke mob would do to them next time an election came around.

I think McCluskey bragging about getting the charges reduced to a misdemeanor, bragging he went to buy a new gun to replace his old one (something he couldn't do if he got stuck with a felony charge), and now focusing on his campaign is the right move.

It rubs the lesser charges in the face of the BLM fuckers who invaded their property, it allows him to retain his right to own weapons, and it get McCluskey legally out from under that incident for good.

But do go on about how he's some 'Rosa Parks' for the Right, and how this is some great betrayal; it's honestly kinda hilarious.
 

Wargamer08

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DeSantis is doing fine, and probably will be on the 2024 GOP POTUS ticket, and McCluskey isn't DeSantis with the state power to protect him.

You do not seem to get that what McCluskey did was force the courts to hand down a far lesser charge than the DA wanted, avoid all the legal fees and hassle of a trial (one he may not win if the jury or judge are picked for partisan reasons), and set himself up in a good position to campaign for the Senate seat without this hanging over him.

I do give a shit about firearms and defense rulings, but I am not expecting protecting the 2A to hinge on this man dragging this to a felony trial, when he could do more for the 2A, and a lot of other things, in a Senate seat.

You call this folding to DA pressure, but the charges he got were a face-saving measure by the DA, because the DA could not let them get off scotfree without fear of what the Woke mob would do to them next time an election came around.

I think McCluskey bragging about getting the charges reduced to a misdemeanor, bragging he went to buy a new gun to replace his old one (something he couldn't do if he got stuck with a felony charge), and now focusing on his campaign is the right move.

It rubs the lesser charges in the face of the BLM fuckers who invaded their property, it allows him to retain his right to own weapons, and it get McCluskey legally out from under that incident for good.

But do go on about how he's some 'Rosa Parks' for the Right, and how this is some great betrayal; it's honestly kinda hilarious.
Sure, he got off easy. Because he’s rich and decently lawyered up. The next person that gets in his situation likely won’t be and now they can count on being fined heavily, and robbed for defending themselves as that is the acceptable stance in his area now.

Acting like providing zero leadership and taking the easy path is a win is just sad. He took a deal, because he didn’t want to take any personal risk. That’s not evil, it’s just meh. There is hundreds of meh politicians hoping for a break. Boring and safe doesn’t inspire or motivate.
 

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Sure, he got off easy. Because he’s rich and decently lawyered up. The next person that gets in his situation likely won’t be and now they can count on being fined heavily, and robbed for defending themselves as that is the acceptable stance in his area now.

Acting like providing zero leadership and taking the easy path is a win is just sad. He took a deal, because he didn’t want to take any personal risk. That’s not evil, it’s just meh. There is hundreds of meh politicians hoping for a break. Boring and safe doesn’t inspire or motivate.
Again, have you any evidence that this actually hurt his chances with the people who can actually elect him?

Or are you just going to keep repeating the same shit that ignores the reality of who can actually vote this guy in?
 

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Sure, he got off easy. Because he’s rich and decently lawyered up. The next person that gets in his situation likely won’t be and now they can count on being fined heavily, and robbed for defending themselves as that is the acceptable stance in his area now.

Acting like providing zero leadership and taking the easy path is a win is just sad. He took a deal, because he didn’t want to take any personal risk. That’s not evil, it’s just meh. There is hundreds of meh politicians hoping for a break. Boring and safe doesn’t inspire or motivate.
>personal risk
Exactly. Leadership is one thing, being a martyr is another.
If he got stuck fighting a felony charge, or worse, failed at it, it would jeopardize both his right to have guns and senate run, for no gain at all.
 

Terthna

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Sure, he got off easy. Because he’s rich and decently lawyered up. The next person that gets in his situation likely won’t be and now they can count on being fined heavily, and robbed for defending themselves as that is the acceptable stance in his area now.

Acting like providing zero leadership and taking the easy path is a win is just sad. He took a deal, because he didn’t want to take any personal risk. That’s not evil, it’s just meh. There is hundreds of meh politicians hoping for a break. Boring and safe doesn’t inspire or motivate.
Again, have you any evidence that this actually hurt his chances with the people who can actually elect him?

Or are you just going to keep repeating the same shit that ignores the reality of who can actually vote this guy in?
Why are you guys still arguing about what this guy did? The court case is over; he's not relevant anymore. Heck, it's not even guaranteed he's still running for a senate seat; the last time he said anything about that was over a month ago.
 

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Jacob Blake, the rapist shot and paralyzed by Kenosha Police Officer Rusten Sheskey, was denied a claim for damages by teh Kenosha City Council which voted it down 17-0. The claim was for $50,000 which was the cap in accordance with state law but Blake's Chicago-based Legal Team added an "itemization" of $776,614.67 due to his injuries.

The filing of the claim is a formality which allows Blake's legal team to pursue with filing a lawsuit that also faces the same 50K cap. Blake's Legal team also filed a lawsuit against Officer Sheskey as an individual in federal court but since he is an employee of Kenosha, his legal defense will be provided by the Kenosha city insurance carrier.


After four months of review, all officers involved including Sheskey were cleared of any wrongdoing in the August 23rd shooting that lead to deadly riots in the subsequent days to follow.
 

Husky_Khan

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Look at the Omaha bar owner.

I'm from GA and I would be fine. That soldier who was driving Uber and shot an ex soldier (he doesn't deserve to be a called a vet) who was apart of the protests and was swinging his gun around, and tapped the uber car window got off fine for shooting the guy because he had good reason. That was in Austin Texas

Sergeant Daniel Perry, the soldier who shot a BLM protestor who was aiming an AK-47 at him when he was working for a ride sharing company and ended up having his vehicle attacked by a mob of BLM protestors, has been charged with murder by an Austin, Texas Grand Jury.

New York Post said:
They said that the protesters had begun beating on Perry’s vehicle after he turned onto the street, and that Foster approached him and motioned with his gun for Perry to lower his window.

Thinking Foster was a law-enforcement officer, Perry complied — but when Foster raised his weapon at him, the soldier realized Foster was not a cop and fired in self-defense, the attorneys claimed.

“It is important to note that the standard of proof required for an indictment is significantly less than the standard of proof required for a conviction,” Perry’s attorney Clint Broden said in a statement.

 

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