If Russia will ever experience regime change, what will happen to its Eurasian Economic Union?

King Arts

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He has two daughters, IIRC(I think that one of them is married to a Korean, but do not quote me on this).
So, why did he not get them to marry whoever he designates as heir? Or fuck it make one of his daughter's the new Tsarina?
 

Terthna

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As someone whose not a expert in recent Russian politics, how much of this is the fault of the West/NATO/the USA?
There was a time decades ago, before Putin became president, when the Russians were ready to consider themselves allies of the United States; all that would have been required is for our leaders to start treating them like potential friends, and not temporally-defeated enemies. Unfortunately, old grudges are difficult to set aside, and none of them ever really stopped thinking of the Russians as the enemy. It also didn't help that pretty much the entire Breton Woods global economic system was built on the premise of opposing them.
 

LordsFire

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There was a time decades ago, before Putin became president, when the Russians were ready to consider themselves allies of the United States; all that would have been required is for our leaders to start treating them like potential friends, and not temporally-defeated enemies. Unfortunately, old grudges are difficult to set aside, and none of them ever really stopped thinking of the Russians as the enemy. It also didn't help that pretty much the entire Breton Woods global economic system was built on the premise of opposing them.

So, do you actually have anything to back this up, or have you just pulled it out of thin air?

Because I remember quite a lot of conciliatory sentiment towards Russia back in the 90's, and I was pretty young back then.

In fact, up until Hillary needed an excuse for why she 'totally didn't lose,' the entire Democrat leadership was pretty bloody friendly to them.
 

Terthna

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So, do you actually have anything to back this up, or have you just pulled it out of thin air?

Because I remember quite a lot of conciliatory sentiment towards Russia back in the 90's, and I was pretty young back then.

In fact, up until Hillary needed an excuse for why she 'totally didn't lose,' the entire Democrat leadership was pretty bloody friendly to them.
A lot of it comes from the work of Stephen F. Cohen, who tragically died a few years ago. In short, all that "conciliatory sentiment" in the 90's was ultimately superficial; the actual policy decisions, from Bush Sr. to Clinton and beyond, tell a completely different story.
 

LordsFire

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A lot of it comes from the work of Stephen F. Cohen, who tragically died a few years ago. In short, all that "conciliatory sentiment" in the 90's was ultimately superficial; the actual policy decisions, from Bush Sr. to Clinton and beyond, tell a completely different story.

Again, can you substantiate this?

Because things like convincing Ukraine to give their nuclear arsenal back to Russia seems like it was kind of conciliatory to me.
 

Captain X

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There was a time decades ago, before Putin became president, when the Russians were ready to consider themselves allies of the United States; all that would have been required is for our leaders to start treating them like potential friends, and not temporally-defeated enemies. Unfortunately, old grudges are difficult to set aside, and none of them ever really stopped thinking of the Russians as the enemy. It also didn't help that pretty much the entire Breton Woods global economic system was built on the premise of opposing them.
I would say more memories of the various evil things the Soviet Union did than "old grudges."
 
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