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Transgender Democrat Wins Minnesota House Seat in Landslide Victory

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The troon is claiming that 11 LGBTQKFC have been elected or something like that.
How cucked is Minnesota?!?!
@LTR what the hell?!?!?!
extremely cucked. the Twin cities out vote the rural portion terribly. we are solidly republican everywhere else.

Our AG is known to have been a domestic abuser. as in his partner and her kid came out and told the story and no one cared. he comes down harder on cops than people who spent months committing arson.

one of our senators Ilhan Omar literally married her brother. it was probably just to pull some chain immigration bullshit because husbands can come in sooner than brothers but who knows maybe they banged while married in the eyes of Allah.

our governor was one of the worst when it came to lock downs and he carved out special exceptions for his friends to keep running their businesses while their competitors were forced to close. he literally skipped a debate just because. also the 3rd debate between Walz and Jenson was hilarious. kinda sad too but still they clearly hate each other and the attacks got super personal. apparently under his watch minnesota has had a billion dollars in fraud commited against it through various aid programs it tried to do. my favorite was when the money went to daycare providers and somehow ended up funding terrorist cells in the middle east.

no joke there is a solid blue wall of ignorance and spite. there is no reasoning with them. they only go orange man bad bad bad, desantas tried a don't say gay bill so he is also bad bad bad. republicans are all insert a [Bush era stereotype here]. the middle ground is basically gone. they are either already decided one way or another or they have completely checked out.
 
for me this is the thing that was hard to swallow. Our system is every bit as corrupt authoritarian and destructive as the systems we've lambasted in the past and present. . With the added bonus of our system being so stupidly complex that it's even harder to get rid of any corruption or rot. The constitution has long been tossed in the dirt and to make the situation worse, it's never been officially dissolved or amended which means our government has never been legitimate for over a century now. We are just like the rest of the world right now and in the worse ways possible and they see it.
 
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for me this is the thing that was hard to swallow. Our system is every bit as corrupt authoritarian and destructive as the systems we've lambasted in the past and present. . With the added bonus of our system being so stupidly complex that it's even harder to get rid of any corruption or rot. The constitution has long been tossed in the dirt and to make the situation worse, it's never been officially dissolved or amended which means our government has never been legitimate for over a century now. We are just like the rest of the world right now and in the worse ways possible and they see it.

The only thing that has, or ever will, keep a government or government-like entity honest, is accountability. People in positions of power and influence will just do whatever they can get away with. If there are no negative consequences, they will take more and more. This is not just human nature - it's animal nature.

Only a fool would trust another to have their best interests in mind, on good faith alone
 
The only thing that has, or ever will, keep a government or government-like entity honest, is accountability. People in positions of power and influence will just do whatever they can get away with. If there are no negative consequences, they will take more and more. This is not just human nature - it's animal nature.

Only a fool would trust another to have their best interests in mind, on good faith alone

I be that fool. Give the monarchies of old credit for one thing. History shows a bad king was fairly easy to get rid of at least compared to the Bannana Republics and military regimes that exist now.
 

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Pro-DeSantis presidential super PAC will launch after all, given Trump-supported midterm losses: 'Ron vs. the Don. I'm here for it'



  • Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis had a historic win on Election Day.
  • The big victory has one Super PAC pushing for him to run for president in 2024 against Trump.
  • John Thomas, who is leading the effort, said he hoped it would give DeSantis courage to challenge the former president.

Plans for a Super PAC supporting a Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis presidential run are back on after a weak showing for former President Donald Trump's favored candidates.

This is a reversal from just a few months ago. GOP strategist John Thomas, who is leading the soon-to-be unveiled super PAC called Ron to the Rescue, told Insider in August that DeSantis should not run for president against Trump. He'd even paused plans for the super PAC this summer after the primaries, in which Trump's endorsed candidates did well. Trump, apparently pleased, shared the Insider interview on Truth Social.

But Thomas, founder and president of the political advertising and strategy group Thomas Partners Strategies, told Insider on Friday that the midterms have reset the calculus. Even in August, he'd said the one caveat for DeSantis pursuing a 2024 presidential run would be poor performance for Trump-favored Republicans in the midterms.

That caveat became reality on Tuesday. In addition to Trump's weak showing, DeSantis won Florida by a historic, nearly 20-point margin that Thomas called "the perfect cascading of events politically for the governor." Now, Thomas told Insider, his plans for the Super PAC are back on "full throttle with seven-figure gifts" and the group is ready to "get this show on the road."

"This feels to me very much like 2008 where DeSantis is Obama and then Trump is Hillary," Thomas told Insider in an interview on Friday. His thinking is that now, just like back then, "the electorate was ready for a bright, fresh new face that can transform American politics and most importantly: win." Ahead of the interview, he texted Insider, saying: 'Ron vs. the Don. I'm here for it.'"

Ron to the Rescue will be launching before Thanksgiving, Thomas told Insider, and would begin producing ads and "start making some noise for the governor."

"Not only are my original donors thrilled and jazzed to start cutting checks, but I've received some calls from very large law-enforcement unions that are going to throw in six figures to start, and lend me their name and credibility in the ads," he said. "There are public safety leaders that are longing for DeSantis' leadership on crime and immigration. Some very large police groups."

The coalition that Thomas has assembled isn't just never Trumpers, he said, but also "people that like Donald Trump."

"I think they're going to be some eyebrow raises of people you thought that were always pro-Trump — and still are — but that are going to stand behind DeSantis early on," he said.

Super PAC will make the case for a fresh face
DeSantis, 44, hasn't said whether he plans to serve out all four years as governor. Trump, meanwhile, has a press conference scheduled for Tuesday in which he appears to be lining up an official 2024 White House run.

The former president, 76, has been bashing DeSantis on Truth Social, saying that he hasn't been adequately loyal to him after he endorsed DeSantis for governor in 2018. DeSantis has not responded to the insults.

Ron to the Rescue will work to give DeSantis the "political courage to step up and run, and show him that the American people have his back," Thomas said. It would also work to make the case that DeSantis would be the best fit to be the GOP nominee, as well as give supporters a way to donate toward the cause.

"We want to harness that energy and give people an outlet," he said. 'Then when the time's right, if the governor announces, we want to be able to transfer, legally, as much of that energy to the governor and his potential campaign as possible."

A challenge to Trump wouldn't be easy, Thomas warned, particularly if numerous other Republicans enter the 2024 contest. If that happens, he said, then Trump could more easily splinter the vote, winning a plurality of support and making it more difficult for DeSantis to become the nominee.

"Trump still has somewhat of a vise-like grip on a portion of the Republican electorate," he said. "The question is, is there a portion large enough in a Republican primary to handily defeat any challengers like DeSantis?"

Thomas said he thought DeSantis should announce a presidential run soon after the new year. If Trump announces on November 15 as planned, Thomas said, then coverage of him will dominate through the holidays.

Waiting until the new year would allow DeSantis to also gauge any cracks in Trump's support, and to assess Trump's weaknesses and see where the contrasts are between the two men. Thomas also noted that Trump is already bashing DeSantis, so the governor can remain in the headlines without engaging the former president.

DeSantis shouldn't wait until after the legislative session that will run from March to May 2023 because he should make his case while the midterms are still fresh, Thomas said.

"If he waits and allows Trump to lock up the donors, the political operatives, the consensus thought, I think he's going to miss his moment and opportunity to race into the field as the fresh face of the Republican Party who's most viable to take back power across the board and create a tsunami for the rest of the country, not just Florida," Thomas said.






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Welp.

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DeSantis for President Super PAC to launch before Thanksgiving



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Saw this last week and had to laugh. And yes, it's barely even been a week. Never bet against the Razor.

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I HOPE YOU PEOPLE ARE HAPPY!
 
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Add One More ‘Mc’ to the McFailures — McCain is Back from the Dead to Devour MAGA


For astute Americans, Arizona is a source of confusion. For a Pima County (Tucson) refugee, it’s part and parcel of the entrenched Uniparty and its coziness with… the Council on Foreign Relations.

If you were paying attention this election cycle, it’s likely several key races and their consuming details would have occupied your attention. For one, you probably followed the Oz–Fetterman matchup, consistently baffled at the descent into the bizarre, a disbelief which could have peaked at the debate-opening ‘adieu’ moment or possibly the announcement that the Pennsyltucky Orc was in fact the political victor. (I actually have family members who hail from and reside in the state, one of whom is so embarrassed, she’s decided that upon disclosing this information to new acquaintances, she will add “but I did not vote for Fetterman.”)

Above all though, you most certainly would have been tracking on Arizona, with the polished and viciously pro-American Kari Lake. You would have noticed the massive crowds she drew and her razor-sharp wit — she probably reminded you of President Trump during his glorious tenure.

So, understandably, for those outside of Arizona, things aren’t adding up — how is a bathroom-lurking caitiff like Katie Hobbs leading the America First heroine? Well, allow me to explain: the globalist ghost of McCain lives on, and the Uniparty has a stranglehold on Arizona politics, preventing transparent elections and a return to the constitutional conservatism and civil service that Lake embodies.

If you recall, the last time Arizona made serious political headlines was in the wake of the 2020 presidential upset. It is the home of counties like Maricopa and Pima, jurisdictions where more than six million Arizonans reside and which were rife with allegations of fraud; both counties largely contributed to the “statistical anomalies and historical irregularities” that defined the election. In fact the discrepancies were so at odds with election integrity and security, Dinesh D’Souza produced a documentary laying bare compelling evidence (much of it centered around Arizona) against the idea that the 2020 election was “the most secure in American history.”

For a state where Republicans held both chambers at the legislature, the attorney general’s office, and the governor’s mansion, one would think that rectifying exploitable or corrupt practices would be easy — but you’d be dead wrong.

Below, you’ll find a few brief points worth noting about the overall sentiment of Republican leadership in Arizona:

First off, the Legislature has had two years to pass laws to reform and strengthen the election process. During the 2021 session (which began before Biden was even inaugurated), lawmakers completely ignored the issue; during the 2022 session, there were two attempts made: the first was killed by Republican Speaker of the House Rusty Bowers, and the second was indefinitely tabled by Republicans Senate President Karen Fann because she “didn’t have the votes” — ultimately the bill died when the session ended this past June. Concerned citizens demanded a floor vote to identify the dissenters, but Fann refused. The Swamp doesn’t rat on the Swamp. (You might recognize “Bowers” for his performance in front of the Jan. 6 Committee or his close friendship with Liz Cheney.)

Secondly, as recently as last month, the Arizona attorney general’s office under Republican Mark Brnovich made an open request to ask that the Joe Biden FBI and IRS be used to “investigate” the conservative non-profit behind D’Souza’s film. True the Vote’s Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips were promptly arrested and only just released from custody by an appeals judge.

Currently, Democrat officials running Pima County elections have said that official results won’t “realistically” be known until November 15th. Meanwhile, in a +8 Republican district in the county, votes continue to trickle in for the Democrats running against a slate of conservative firebrands known as the Freedom Team — all with apparently zero outrage from the county Republican party. Mind you, this is the same county party that bolstered a proud abortionist as a legislative candidate over members of that very same Freedom Team, so again, not all that surprising. In fact, boots on the ground in Pima asserted that the only candidate the local party really rallied for was Governor Doug Ducey protégé Juan Ciscomani, who has since won his race. You might remember, Ducey earned an official GOP censure for certifying the 2020 vote at the same moment lawyers presented evidence alleging fraud to state lawmakers. When I asked Mr. Ciscomani if he thought Ducey had done a good job, he replied with “Yes, I do.”

Two months ago, a local Arizona paper published an article with a headline that said, “14 AZ lawmakers took 9-day Europe trip sponsored in part by lobbyists and more are coming” — and this is where things get really interesting.

According to the report:

[The] lawmakers took a free trip to Germany, where they celebrated the opening of a trade office…. met government and business officials, and enjoyed a leisurely weekend in Berlin.
Of course, you’d expect the Democrats to be involved in this — they’re corrupt and shameless and antithetical to the role of ‘civil servant’ — but what if I told you half were Republicans, six of whom appear to have just won reelection? (Arizona takes forever to count the votes if you couldn’t tell.) The lone Republican who won’t be returning to the legislature is none other than the aforementioned Rusty Bowers, who lost his primary in early August.

So who paid for this trip, which included “drinking and partying”, and with whom exactly did they meet?

Well, the report went on:

Lobbyist firms and state taxpayers [emphasis added] funded the lawmakers’ expenses as part of a new, $750,000 Arizona House of Representatives international relations program that will fund more [emphasis added] such trips over the next few years…. House officials were was [sic] unable to provide individual and total costs to send the lawmakers on the trip[.]
Under the debilitating weight of inflation, Arizona taxpayers paid the bill, along with the Phoenix Committee on Foreign Relations, which is an “offshoot” of the pro-globalism Council on Foreign Relations. Some of the Committee’s corporate members include the McCain Institute, and countless establishments under the Arizona State University umbrella — ASU’s president, Michael Crow, also serves as the Chairman of the Board for In-Q-Tel, the CIA’s leading investment firm. Oh, and how could I forget? The president of the Committee is a woman named Claire Sechler Merkel — wonder if there’s any relation to Angela Merkel, especially given the fact the program’s inaugural destination was Germany? The Maricopa Merkel also appears on Bowers’ campaign finance reports as a recent heavy-hitting donor.

Actually, we need to backtrack a bit: “Before going to Germany, several members of the delegation also went to Italy, where they met Cindy McCain,” — McCain is now a Rome-based diplomat to the globalist United Nations.

Once the group actually arrived in Germany, they met with executives of pharmaceutical giant, Merck. Again, Arizona Republicans and Big Pharma go hand-in-hand — Wilmeth, the brains behind this beast, followed in the steps of his colleagues, and just accepted a $750 Pfizer donation less than a month ago. On top of that, both the legislature and the governor absconded from their duty to protect citizens from coerced masking and jabs during the height of the Covid madness — makes sense when vaccine manufacturers are making campaign donations. Furthermore, the article referenced a heavy crossover between Arizona lawmakers and semiconductor electronics enterprises; gee, that sounds eerily reminiscent of Nancy Pelosi’s dirty dealings. They then met with U.S. embassy officials for a private reception, before hobnobbing with various German politicians. Despite all the “good connections” made ‘in service’ to the state of Arizona, the lawmakers failed to officially disclose the trip to the public. How strange....

Do these Republicans strike you as the type who would want Kari Lake breathing down their necks? No, of course not. Arizona politics are defined by the phrase, ‘two wings of the same bird’ — you’d think dabbling in a censured McCain’s endeavors and galvanizing globalist agendas would compel further censures or possibly even expulsions from the Republican Party, but alas, crickets. Uniparty Republicans run Arizona, and that’s exactly why a chain of despicable events that sees Hobbs “triumph” over Lake should come as no surprise — these people, no matter how convincing, are a bunch of McFrauds.

Ballots Have Now Gone Missing After Dominion Voting Machine Disaster


After Dominion Voting machines in Mercer County, New Jersey, failed to read ballots, forcing voters to complete paper ballots, hundreds or even thousands of those paper ballots have now disappeared.

Some 3,211 voters from three Princeton districts who cast their ballots at the municipal building may end up disenfranchised if the ballots are not recovered, as could up to 835 Robbinsville residents who voted at the Mercer County Library.

The actual number of missing ballots was not immediately clear; the New Jersey Globe reported only the number of voters in each of the four affected districts, not the number of votes that had actually been cast.

Dominion Voting Systems programmers had traveled to Mercer County on Election Day when an error related to the machines’ optical scanners prevented the ballots from being counted, The Western Journal reported early Tuesday.

“There is a slot on the top of the scanner, and voters can vote and are voting manually,” Mercer County Clerk Paula Sollami Covello said then.

The ballots were then to have been transported to a central location — the Board of Elections — where they would be manually counted in accordance with a contingency plan officials put in place after the Dominion machines stopped working.

“This allowed our election to go forward, and we took advantage of that fail-safe measure yesterday,” Covello said. “We were able to bring all of the ballots back to the Board of Elections, where that bipartisan commission processed the ballots’ high-capacity scanners at their central location. Every vote was counted.”

Except for the ones that weren’t.

“Robbinsville Township was contacted by Mercer County Election officials at approximately 5 p.m. today and were informed that the ballots of one of our districts had gone missing,” Robbinsville Township Mayor Dave Fried wrote in a statement on the township’s website Wednesday evening.

“The fundamentals of Democracy is that every vote would be counted.

“Clearly, this has yet to happen in Robbinsville, as approximately 11% of our residents’ votes have yet to be safely delivered and counted. We’re working with the County, which is in charge of our elections, but please know we will not rest until we get to the bottom of this unconscionable mishap, and we will not consider the 2022 election over in Robbinsville until every single ballot is counted and done so securely.”

The Trentonian said that Dominion had “claimed responsibility” for the scanning errors that led to this issue, citing unnamed sources.

“The ballots are reviewed by Dominion, they work together,” Covello said. “We pre-test, so we’re going to find out where exactly the problem lies.”

Covello reported the situation to the Mercer County Prosecutor’s Office, asking that it “investigate as to whether this scanning problem occurred based on an error or whether something was intentionally done to create chaos and distrust in the election system,” according to the North Jersey Media Group.

At the time — before the ballots had been reported missing — she said that elections officials were “not suspicious of any specific wrongdoing.”

The missing ballots did not appear to be enough to affect any races for federal offices. Democrats in both U.S. House races in the district held comfortable leads with most of the votes counted Thursday morning, according to The Associate Press. Neither Sen. Bob Menendez nor Sen. Cory Booker were up for re-election this year.

Some local races, however, were still in play.

“A race for the Robbinsville school board, where 103 votes separate Peter Oehlberg and Christopher Emigholz, could be affected by the lost ballots,” the Globe reported. “So could a Princeton school board contest where 67 votes separate Deborah Bronfeld and Rita Rafalvovsky.”

It was possible, the Globe reported, for the missing ballots simply to have been “misplaced at the Board of Elections office,” as records indicate that they had been delivered as they should have been.

It was not immediately clear what recourse Mercer County voters would have if the missing ballots are not recovered and counted.


FIX IS IN: Arizona Ballots Make Stop at Runbeck Printing Company to Scan Ballot Envelopes Before They Are Sent to County — WITH NO OBSERVERS


This is a developing report.

Arizona Ballots Make Stop at Runbeck Printing Company to Sort Ballots Before They Are Sent to County — WITH NO OBSERVERS

Ben Bergquam was outside the Maricopa County election center and followed a Penske truck leave the center and return to Runbeck. Once at Runbeck, the gate is closed.

Every mail-in ballot that is returned in the county is sent to Runbeck first.

Runbeck is scanning the Maricopa ballots before they are sent to the Maricopa County Elections Center.



Maricopa County is the only jurisdiction in the country that picks up completed ballots at USPS Processing Distribution Center, but doesn’t bring them back to the election department or tabulation center.

Maricopa County picks up mail-in ballots and takes them directly to its print vendor Runbeck Election Services, which is headquartered in Phoenix.

Every single completed mail-in ballot, whether mailed or dropped off at a polling place, goes to Runbeck. All mail-in ballots collected on election day, and the previous few days, are sitting at Runbeck headquarters. Maricopa has no idea how many ballots are in their possession because the ballots are at their print vendor.

Maricopa allegedly uses Runbeck because they have “high-speed scanners.” Runbeck scans the ballots in batches to create a digital image of each envelope signature area. This batch of images is given to the Maricopa tabulation center (MCTEC) for poll worker review. MCTEC notifies Runbeck if any of those signatures don’t match. Runbeck separates out those bad envelopes, then delivers both sets of these envelopes by van to MCTEC, which is 6 miles away. MCTEC then opens the envelopes and starts the tabulation process.

This “batch” process is repeated until all “mail-in” ballot envelopes are scanned at Runbeck. This takes 10-12 days after every general election, and ballots envelopes are delivered each day by Runbeck vans. Runbeck uses the Bluecrest Vantage mail processing machines to scan these ballot envelopes. This machine can process 40-50,000 ballots an hour. These machines can also automatically scan the ballot signatures using embedded commercial-grade check cashing signature software from Parascript. But Maricopa continues to use its slow manual “batch” process of reviewing signatures.

These Vantage machines cost $1.06 million each, Detroit just purchased one in early 2022. Maricopa could purchase two of these machines and process roughly 90,000 ballots an hour in-house. But Maricopa continues to re-sign contracts with Runbeck, which prevents them from bringing all this in-house.

This is a travesty.
 

Terthna

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I am pretty sure Mitch and the rest of the Uniparty are up to no good. And Trump knows it. He is not the only one bringing this up now. Other people are smelling a big rat that the GOP establishment is doing. Remember they hate Trump and want to have a politician they can control. I hate to break it to everybody but Desanits might have been bought.
It's possible he's just letting them think they've bought him out; or maybe he's making the same mistake Trump did in trusting the Republican establishment, and doesn't see it as him having been bought.
 

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This is not just a vote for R or D, both are run by the Uniparty, this is about rejecting the current power structure and kicking out the puppet kakistocracy and destroying its false dichotomies and taking away the silly bait the establishment of each party uses to rile up parts of the hard base while in reality nothing of true relevance changes.

The media, the permanent state bureaucracy and those adjacent to it, think Fauchi and the various grifter think tanks, and the managerial-financial crony capitalism class enable and support that establishment and until the entire elite in the face of the permanent bureaucracy and the so called intellectuals is not removed and replaced nothing will happen.
If you wanted me to vote Libertarian to spite the establishment, you should have said so. Read my lips I am not some ball of anger who votes just out of spite, like you would. I vote for who I feel will get the job done and while I may have been silent on the issue, I can safely say that my plan was and has always been to vote against Trump in the next primary because in my eyes he failed.

Trump succeeded in breaking the wheel he has shown himself incapable of reforming it in any form that's meaningful and in a way that it will continue on without him.
 
If you wanted me to vote Libertarian to spite the establishment, you should have said so. Read my lips I am not some ball of anger who votes just out of spite, like you would. I vote for who I feel will get the job done and while I may have been silent on the issue, I can safely say that my plan was and has always been to vote against Trump in the next primary because in my eyes he failed.

Trump succeeded in breaking the wheel he has shown himself incapable of reforming it in any form that's meaningful and in a way that it will continue on without him.

The president doesn't have the power that people want him to have (or I personally think he needs). As long as the system is the way it is, one man is only going to be able to do so much without allies, The problem is it's one man against an entire corrupt system that has managed to find it's tendrils in every aspect of society.

I'm afraid you'll find Desantis won't be the establishment buster you think he is. The fact that the media is hyping him up tells me that he's controlled opposition.
 

Blasterbot

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This is disappointing. I kinda expected it but the donor class and establishment people really hated trump. sad that they are getting to Ron though. a primary between him and trump is gonna be ugly and expensive. if by the end of it I feel like it was just the GOP stabbing trump in the back I would probably stay home.
 

Terthna

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If you wanted me to vote Libertarian to spite the establishment, you should have said so. Read my lips I am not some ball of anger who votes just out of spite, like you would. I vote for who I feel will get the job done and while I may have been silent on the issue, I can safely say that my plan was and has always been to vote against Trump in the next primary because in my eyes he failed.

Trump succeeded in breaking the wheel he has shown himself incapable of reforming it in any form that's meaningful and in a way that it will continue on without him.
Thing is, beyond maybe Ron DeSantis (who might be in the process of being subverted by the establishment) and Rand Paul (who only recently discovered he has a spine, and might forget at any time), the Republicans don't have anyone who's even willing to get the job done, let alone able.



This is disappointing. I kinda expected it but the donor class and establishment people really hated trump. sad that they are getting to Ron though. a primary between him and trump is gonna be ugly and expensive. if by the end of it I feel like it was just the GOP stabbing trump in the back I would probably stay home.
If it comes down to a primary battle between Trump and DeSantis, the party will be split regardless of who wins; meaning neither will have a chance of winning the election. Which may be the entire point behind propping up DeSantis; use him to take out Trump, and then act as if he's unelectable and block him from ever running again.
 

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The president doesn't have the power that people want him to have (or I personally think he needs). As long as the system is the way it is, one man is only going to be able to do so much without allies, The problem is it's one man against an entire corrupt system that has managed to find it's tendrils in every aspect of society.

I'm afraid you'll find Desantis won't be the rage buster you think he is. The fact that the media is hyping him up tells me that he's controlled opposition.
Or that they are sensationalist and like me see which way the wind is blowing, another Trump presidency will be littered with the same incompetence, blustering and allegations of corruption, nothing will get passed that's worthwhile and once the next dems get in again any little thing he did via executive power will inevitably be reversed.

Controlled opposition? Why? What signs do you see that he is? Or what evidence do you possess? What is wrong with the conservative media like Fox backing a guy who is younger, more pragmatic, charismatic and approachable? Especially when he won so 'Bigley' in Florida?

The fact is that people who make the allegations of conspiracy here are those who have a vested interest in seeing Trump President again, Yes McConnel and others gave DeSantis money to get him governor that isn't any evidence beyond showing that DeSantis will accept a handout that will ultimately benefit him, and that Mcconell and his ilk see him as a likely contender to try to cozy up too in the hopes that he may dethrone a guy who will most definitely try to purge them should he win again.

In short, it's not a conspiracy so much as multiple parties with multiple goals just because Ron accepts free money for help in winning the governorship now doesn't make him obligated to do anything else.

Thing is, beyond maybe Ron DeSantis (who might be in the process of being subverted by the establishment) and Rand Paul (who only recently discovered he has a spine, and might forget at any time), the Republicans don't have anyone who's even willing to get the job done, let alone able.
Thats not our fault, but truthfully if we elect Trump over the latter two, I feel we may be doomed in the long-haul win or lose.
 
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Terthna

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Or that they are sensationalist and like me see which way the wind is blowing, another Trump presidency will be littered with the same incompetence, blustering and allegations of corruption, nothing will get passed that's worthwhile and once the next dems get in again any little thing he did via executive power will inevitably be reversed.

Controlled opposition? Why? What signs do you see that he is? Or what evidence do you possess? What is wrong with the conservative media like Fox backing a guy who is younger, more pragmatic and approachable? Especially when he won so 'Bigley' in Florida.

The fact is that people who make the allegations of conspiracy here are those who have a vested interest in seeing Trump President again, Yes McConnel and others gave DeSantis money to get him governor that isn't any evidence beyond showing that DeSantis will accept a handout that will ultimately benefit him, and that Mcconell and his ilk see him as a likely contender to try to cozy up too in the hopes that he may dethrone a guy who will most definitely try to purge them should he win again.

In short, it's not a conspiracy so much as multiple parties with multiple goals just because Ron accepts money for winning the governorship now doesn't make him obligated to do anything else.
It's really starting to look to me like the establishment is just trying to kill two birds with one stone. Undermine DeSantis by making it look like they've bought him out, while propping him up to undermine Trump in the 2024 Republican primary. Thus, even if he wins he won't become president; and then they can block him and Trump from running again because they're "unelectable".

Thats not our fault, but truthfully if we elect Trump over the latter two, I feel we may be doomed in the long-haul win or lose.
Fair enough; just don't expect anything good to come from voting for, say, Mitt Romney over Donald Trump.
 

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"It stuffs the ballot in the box or it gets the hose again..."

Eew.

Anyways here is Torba's take:

The Path Forward: Balkanize And Build

By: Andrew Torba

In light of the clown show that was the election on Tuesday I wanted to share some of my thoughts on what I see as the path forward from here. I made a post on Gab yesterday that got tens of thousands of engagements both on and off Gab. I think it’s important to analyze why this post resonated so widely and where we go from here.

"I see everyone on the right fighting about Trump vs DeSantis for 2024 and I just laugh to myself. The presidency in 2024 is a pipe dream, with DeSantis or Trump on the ticket. To be frank I don’t know if we’ll ever see a Republican president again. Millions and millions of illegals pouring over our border and being distributed to key swing states. An electorate trained to believe that hundreds of thousands of mail in ballots appearing is normal. Demographics is destiny. He who controls the machines controls the outcome. We didn’t fix 2020 and we didn’t build the wall so don’t expect another “free and fair” election."

One thing I noticed in the thousands of replies of this post is the unity across the generations. If you know anything about the Gab community, or perhaps from your own experience with the people in your own life, it’s that Boomers and Zoomers rarely agree on anything especially when it comes to political strategy.

On this subject though there seems to be a mass consensus across every generation from young to old: between election fraud, citizen disenfranchisement via decades of illegal aliens invading our country, and the Regime’s total control over the flow of information and censorship of any dissent: Republicans have zero chance of winning the Presidency in 2024.

Millions of people are waking up to the reality that a small percentage of the population controls 98% of the flow of information and news to the people. This is incredibly important. No other political issue matters more. He who controls the media controls the minds of the masses. It’s that simple.

Gab community member @PaxChristus made a post that demonstrates this reality well.

In Russia, where gay propaganda is banned, 70% of people oppose gay marriage and that number has been increasing in recent years.

In America, where opposition to LGBT is heavily censored, 70% of people support gay marriage and that number has been increasing in recent years.


Democracy is purely about information control.

As the top commenter on this post pointed out, German conservative revolutionaries like Oswald Spengler realized this in the early 1900’s.

Democracy has become a weapon of moneyed interests. It uses the media to create the illusion that there is consent from the governed. The press today is an army with carefully organized weapons, the journalists its officers, the readers its soldiers. The reader neither knows nor is supposed to know the purposes for which he is used and the role he is to play. The notion of democracy is often no different than living under a plutocracy or government by wealthy elites. -Oswald Spengler
He is making a good point in thet the Democrats did let in lots of people and distributed them throughout swing and red states.

P.S. fun fact, but this guy's name literally means 'bag' or 'sack' in my language.
 
Controlled opposition? Why? What signs do you see that he is? Or what evidence do you possess? What is wrong with the conservative media like Fox backing a guy who is younger, more pragmatic, charismatic and approachable? Especially when he won so 'Bigley' in Florida?

because it's freaking FOX dude. Does nobody remember the fact that none of these politicians were populist until Trumps election made it clear MAGA wasn't just going away? Or how quickly People like Cruz turned on MAGA after Jan 6th (You cannot convince me that Jan 6th was not a GLOW job) if any of these guy's had any actual interest in America first, trump wouldn't have gotten as far as he had.

I don't trust anyone in the old guard to be America first especially when they do things such as this.

In short, it's not a conspiracy so much as multiple parties with multiple goals just because Ron accepts free money for help in winning the governorship now doesn't make him obligated to do anything else.

having had family members who have worked in corporate culture that's not been my experience. As they say "You don't bite the hand that feeds you." and DeSantis (it seems) is being fed by neocons.
 
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The rundown on Arizona's Runbeck Election Services: They're chocked full of activist leftists who openly tweet about how they hate all things MAGA.

Runbeck prints ballots and offers services to 23 states + D.C.

A few of my current and 2020 posts regarding Runbeck employees:

Sandi the Printer - Runbeck Employee

"Sandi" from Runbeck Election services, the Arizona ballot printer and processor: - TheDonald

Sandi from Arizona's Runbeck Election Services railing against Kari Lake. I'm sure Sandi is making sure that Runbeck's Penske trucks are loaded with the correct amount of ballots. - TheDonald

Yet another biased Never-Trumper from Runbeck Election Systems who is running voting systems in Maricopa County, AZ. - TheDonald

Sandi's current tweets (archived) showing that she's friends with Lisa M Marra an election official.

🔥Decency Wins!🔥 (@printwithsandi) | Twitter

Sandi is also a Mark Kelly supporter and tweeted about donating to his campaign back in 2020.

No problem here: Runbeck Election services employee (Arizona) donates and tweets to McSally's opponent while her company is involved in election services. - TheDonald

Chris Schiffhauer, Dir. Software Development at Runbeck

Never Trumper Chris Schiffhauer, Dir. Software Development at Runbeck Election systems is co-holder on a patent for a ballot duplication system used by Maricopa County. The patent contains the following description:

"A computer-implemented system for on-screen ballot duplication is disclosed, that may be deployed for generating a revised ballot that satisfies predetermined rules or thresholds for further processing."

Runbeck Systems provides election services to Maricopa County.

Chris is @PaulyGlott on Twitter

Chris is not a fan of MAGA:

“Make America Great Again is a call to White Supremacy.” Archived Tweet: Chris Schiffhauer (@PaulyGlott) | Twitter

/u/minotaurbeach did a deep dive on Chris Schiffhauers ballot duplication technology and posted it here in this comment:

? ? ? BOOM! - Never Trumper Chris Schiffhauer, Dir. Software Development at Runbeck Election systems is co-holder on a patent for a ballot duplication system used by Maricopa County. Details in comments. ? ? ? - TheDonald

Runbeck on the leftist Trevor Noah show:

 

Agent23

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Or that they are sensationalist and like me see which way the wind is blowing, another Trump presidency will be littered with the same incompetence, blustering and allegations of corruption, nothing will get passed that's worthwhile and once the next dems get in again any little thing he did via executive power will inevitably be reversed.

Controlled opposition? Why? What signs do you see that he is? Or what evidence do you possess? What is wrong with the conservative media like Fox backing a guy who is younger, more pragmatic, charismatic and approachable? Especially when he won so 'Bigley' in Florida?

The fact is that people who make the allegations of conspiracy here are those who have a vested interest in seeing Trump President again, Yes McConnel and others gave DeSantis money to get him governor that isn't any evidence beyond showing that DeSantis will accept a handout that will ultimately benefit him, and that Mcconell and his ilk see him as a likely contender to try to cozy up too in the hopes that he may dethrone a guy who will most definitely try to purge them should he win again.

In short, it's not a conspiracy so much as multiple parties with multiple goals just because Ron accepts free money for help in winning the governorship now doesn't make him obligated to do anything else.


Thats not our fault, but truthfully if we elect Trump over the latter two, I feel we may be doomed in the long-haul win or lose.
False dichotomy, dude, the two parties are a false dichotomy.

Libertarianism in its purest form doesn't work, neither will the evangelicalism the tea party was infested with.

What the USA needs, what all of the west needs, is a New Right to eat the old from within and dispose of the bones that are the establishment.
 

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