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Well at this point it would probably the lawyer's job and jury whether or not the McMichaels are guilty.

Hmmm, this statement really does make argument for a justified citizen arrest very weak... Would probably use the self-defense angle really heavily in that case. Can't you have lead with that police statement? Made me lost a lot of time googling shit.

Ok just watched the video.... it kinda missed the point though, yes we know now, emphasis on now, that nothing is missing. But at the time, it was a suspected burglary, Ahmaud running away doesn't really make him look innocent as well. So as far as the McMichaels know, the person that is...

Can you link the video? Because that sounds very ass backwards.

The argument that "I committed a crime and was not arrested, so this other person who committed the same crime also shouldn't" is a very shitty defense. Going inside another person's property, literally trespassing, still under construction or not, unlocked or not is still a crime.

I was really talking more about the Legal Insurrection video but... eh. Though really the "I also walk through construction sites and nothing happens" is a shitty argument. Really I don't give a shit about the "national" consequences and "rascism" in America, does every time a black person dies...

Do you have the link to the videos? It doesn't play for me.

Isn't burglary a felony though? While we now know that nothing is missing, suspecting the perpetrator of a burglary is fleeing would be justified grounds for a citizen arrest.

They did have a reasonable suspicion that Ahmaud Arbery has commited a crime and fleeing the scene of crime. So not sure that a false arrest charge would stick and false confinement would need them actually confining him, asking a person to stop is not really confining them. I mean with that...

I'm not sure what felony they would have done though? The media frenzy is really making it hard not to instinctually defend the McMichaels. I mean lynching, really?

You know... people who fears for their life usually don't run towards the danger. Whether or not the McMichaels was legally right in their citizen arrest is another matter entirely. The moment he fought for the gun, the McMichaels was the one in a position to fear for their life.

The idiot went and and punched a guy holding a gun who is not pointing it at him. Pretty much assisted suicide. From the video he's pretty far away from the guy with the shotgun, the fact that he ran all that distance and then punched the guy repeteadly... Yeah pretty much an open and shut case...

But god the quagmire that would need to be waded to even get a simple determination of what would count as that very grey region of "higher than an animal but lower than a human". If politicians could somehow read "shall not be infringed" as a reason to criminalize the act, something as gray...

Hey maybe the Governor is just a closet proponent of the Second Amendment and simply want to show Americans why it's so important. And so in his fervor decided to create the tyrannical government so that Virginians have somebody to fight against. /s

The Government could wave its big stick all it want, people will do what people want to do. Remember how prohibition went? Making the legal age higher is a simple governmental theater to placate the "think of the children crowd". Like literally other than outright making it illegal and making...

Why the hell is this thread devolving into philosophical navel gazing? Oh and an example actually relevant to the thread. People that are possessed or could speak in tongues (angel speak to those not in the religion). These cases are most likely either schizophrenia or perhaps stroke. I have...

I mean when your self defense style is almost as useless as just carrying a brick around at all times, then you need to advertise in any way you can. Though just brandishing the throwing ax would probably work better rather than trying to hit a moving target and ending up throwing away your...

If you have to justify your preference of sexual genitalia through reams of "academic" gobbledygook it is probably a load of bullshit. Especially if you try to justify it through "Critical Theory" and the godforsaken Women Studies (what do they even do in that course??). Of course except if...

In a city with the highest GDP for cities in the world, why can't Los Angeles solve their homelessness problem? Is there no solution for homelessness? I would say no. So why can't the city government solve it? Is 1 billion not enough to house their homeless people? Is it because they are too...

Hey, even better, a system of checks and balances. But really we are derailing here. So my two cents about Labour antisemitism. A bunch of lefties being racists? Imagine my shock!! /s