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  1. Doomsought

    Religion Religion, Atheism and Relation to Basis of Morality

    I think the greatest value of utilitarianism is not as a source of moral knowledge, but a framework for how you can manipulate people whom are fundamentally evil to behave in a manor that resembles good. Most importantly, that it can be done without resorting to violence.
  2. Doomsought

    Religion Religion, Atheism and Relation to Basis of Morality

    There is a certain arrogance among atheists, if they don't believe that they know everything there is to know, they believe they have the capacity to do so. That there is nothing beyond their remit. Something that is proven wrong by diagnolization and the incompleteness theorem.
  3. Doomsought

    Religion Religion, Atheism and Relation to Basis of Morality

    Many hard core Objectivists do have a problem charity, which is kind of funny since it can easily be justified under objectivism using advances in game theory since Rand created the philosophy. No the real problem is that it has a hard time justifying the why things have value on which...
  4. Doomsought

    Religion Religion, Atheism and Relation to Basis of Morality

    The closest thing to an atheistic moral system I've ever heard of is Ayn Rand's Objectivism, and it was more formed as an anti-thesis to the presumptions built into communism than based on the exploration of logical conclusions one leading to another. Using Objectivism to attempt to create moral...
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