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  1. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    What can the state legitimately do, in your eyes? No, it's not an ad hominem. To point out the fervor with which people defend pornography and theorize that it's probably because they themselves enjoy it isn't the same as saying "they don't want porn to be banned, so that must mean they are a...
  2. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    This is a good point, but this thread was about the political problem with pornography. Even if it were morally legitimate for an individual to use pornography, there is a considerable political problem with pornography. I noticed on here that most of the people used arguments like "if you give...
  3. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    I'm in favor of traditional patriarchy as was practiced by medieval Europeans. But I'd be lying if I didn't say I agreed a bit with her conception of matriarchy. Women working in the home is what makes society function, actually.
  4. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    Well, yes, that’d be traditional patriarchy. And traditional matriarchy (as @Captain-General describes it) would say the same thing, but would add that men should be submissive to women because the woman’s place (the home) is superior to men’s place (public service and bread-winning).
  5. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    To clarify on my views of egalitarianism, my view is pretty much what @ShieldWife has stated. With regards with the kind of egalitarianism porn promotes, this was the link (from the first page, no less). The egalitarian views I attack as "destructive" are "egalitarian attitudes towards women,"...
  6. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    Double posting, but I found two interesting articles people should read. I think the author puts forth something rather sensible. https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/02/nuke-porn-industry-save-american-family/ https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/18/libertarians-wrong-pornography/
  7. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    That's not moral subjectivism then. The idea that I ought to be considerate of the differing moral views of others is in itself a moral position. And in any case, your assertion that we ought only to have the law enforce moral standards when it hurts others is not something I share. I think the...
  8. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    Such is the logic of the liberal: his principles ought to be dominant because they're "neutral," and if you insist otherwise, there's something wrong with you. Liberalism is the most intolerant of all ideologies.
  9. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    Could you elaborate on what you mean by this? it’s not an either/or thing. Consumerist economics go hand-in-hand with sexual liberation ideology. Both promote vapid hedonism that contrasts the denial of self-gratification required for family formation. In fact, the widespread selling of sex...
  10. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    Are you a moral subjectivist?
  11. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    That two people can disagree about something doesn't mean that there isn't some objective standard. The nature of pornography as something that's degrading isn't directly related to what this thread's about - which is that pornography causes political problems - but it's tangentially related...
  12. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    Well, whether something is degrading or not is not a matter of opinion though. I mean, these girls are ruining their ability to have steady relationships with men.
  13. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    I have several friends that never went to college like I did and get paid pretty well in trades. Additionally, from what I read from economists like Bryan Caplan, college degrees are a form of "empty signaling." The government has pushed so many students to go into college, it's unbelievable...
  14. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    Is that because they are becoming more useful, or because the market has become so over-saturated with college degrees?
  15. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    How is this argument not just another form of “it’s the current year, guys?” I mean, this is just begging the question on whether or not college degrees are necessary, whether or not traditional values need to be abandoned.
  16. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    Certainly, you can find propaganda from the porn industry and sex-positive feminists saying that. It's not reality, however. Silly because they are selling their virginity for dollars and cents, which will damage them in the long run.
  17. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    "Educate yourself!" Obviously, you are not being serious about this, so I'll assume I'm right and carry on.
  18. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    But sexually abusing people, especially children, is on a different level of evil from “slave labor.” Remember, we’re talking about the third world, a place that is not as capital-intensive, so the working conditions will be poorer and the wages will be lower. Thus, what would be slave labor in...
  19. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    So you deny that, by your logic, buying child pornography is no different from buying a computer?
  20. The Name of Love

    The Political Problem of Pornography

    “Buying child pornography is no different from buying a computer.”
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