Bigking321

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Eh. Most of Virginia is hard core red. This pretty much means the only places that might have mandates are the few deep blue areas close to DC.

It's not great but that's much better than it was.

Edit. We would be ecstatic if every state used this approach for a lot of things. Can you imagine Illinois, New York, California, Washington, or Oregon letting their majority of red counties set their own policies?

That would probably ease a bunch of tension in a lot of states overwhelmed by one big city.
 

f1onagher

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Eh. Most of Virginia is hard core red. This pretty much means the only places that might have mandates are the few deep blue areas close to DC.

It's not great but that's much better than it was.

Edit. We would be ecstatic if every state used this approach for a lot of things. Can you imagine Illinois, New York, California, Washington, or Oregon letting their majority of red counties set their own policies?

That would probably ease a bunch of tension in a lot of states overwhelmed by one big city.
Yeah, I feel like letting localities make their own rules is the cleanest way to do this. I don't blame Youngkin for taking this tack, especially given how much weight the DC suburbs have over his state.
 

Cherico

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Yeah, I feel like letting localities make their own rules is the cleanest way to do this. I don't blame Youngkin for taking this tack, especially given how much weight the DC suburbs have over his state.

it honestly goes pretty well with my ideals of autonomy. Let different people live their lives the way they want to and let local communities decide their own fates.
 

49ersfootball

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it honestly goes pretty well with my ideals of autonomy. Let different people live their lives the way they want to and let local communities decide their own fates.
You know the VA Dems will likely bounce back in 2025.

1.) United States Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) wins reelection in 2024 (Dems will show up in presidential elections).

2.) United States Senator Mark Warner (D-VA) isn't in any danger in 2026.

3.) VA Dems still have control of the VA State Senate, which isn't up until 2023.
 

Cherico

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You know the VA Dems will likely bounce back in 2025.

1.) United States Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) wins reelection in 2024 (Dems will show up in presidential elections).

2.) United States Senator Mark Warner (D-VA) isn't in any danger in 2026.

3.) VA Dems still have control of the VA State Senate, which isn't up until 2023.

My goal isnt the anhilation of the left its to get them to leave people alone and let them live their own lives.

Really my issue is primaraly one of not liking control freaks period.
 

The Whispering Monk

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So I just found this regarding NJ debt loads....

"The TIA report said that New Jersey “had $31.7 billion available to pay $216.9 billion worth of bills. The outcome was a $185.2 billion shortfall.”"

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New Jersey has huge, possibly dangerous, levels of debt, a new report says, but most state officials won’t discuss it.

Each Garden State taxpayer owes tens of thousands of dollars and is in a tax “sinkhole,” but so are many other Americans, according to the report.

That is because New Jersey leaders of both parties have overspent and used accounting “gimmicks” for decades.

“New Jersey receives an F in finances,” Bill Bergman, director of research at the non-profit organization Truth in Accounting (TIA) told The Epoch Times.

The TIA report said that New Jersey “had $31.7 billion available to pay $216.9 billion worth of bills. The outcome was a $185.2 billion shortfall.”


As a result, taxpayers in the state are “on the hook for $58,300 as of fiscal year 2020.”

The state, the report concluded “remains in abysmal fiscal health and had no money set aside to weather the current or any future crisis.”

New Jersey officials claim the state has a balanced budget.

“If this is true,” Bergman asks, “then how is it the state has this massive debt problem?”

Spokespeople for New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy and acting State Comptroller Kevin D. Walsh didn’t respond to questions from The Epoch Times. The speaker of the New Jersey legislature, Craig J. Coughlin, also declined to comment.

A spokesman for the Republican minority in the New Jersey legislature praised the report. To not accept the conclusions of the report “would be crazy,” says state Assemblyman Hal Wirths.

Wirths noted TIA “points to pension and health benefit costs as New Jersey’s number one financial problem, and they are.”

He says New Jersey has the third highest bonded debt in the nation—$61.3 billion—and “far more per capita than the two highest states, California and New York.”

Still, three major bond rating agencies said New Jersey’s situation isn’t as bad as the TIA report, but say it is serious.

New Jersey’ credit rating took a significant hit last year when ratings agency S&P downgraded the state to BBB+ for the first time ever. This grade, notes S&P director and lead analyst Tiffany Tribbitt, is barely investment grade.

Tribbitt, in an interview with The Epoch Times, agreed with TIA that New Jersey’s bond rating “is the second worst of the states.” Illinois is the worst, she says.

Still, she said New Jersey has the resources to overcome the problem.

Fitch and Moody’s Ratings also concur that the state has considerable long-term debt but can manage it.

Nevertheless, these state debt problems aren’t just in the Garden State.

The TIA report, titled “Financial State of the States, 2021,” rates 39 states as “sinkholes.” That means debts are bigger than assets.

The report also says 11 states are sunshine states, meaning assets are greater than obligations. The top five sunshine states are Alaska, North Dakota, Wyoming, Utah, and South Dakota.

New Jersey taxpayers, however, are almost in the deepest sinkhole. Only Connecticut is worst.

Bergman warns that unless changes are made, the “day of reckoning” is coming for New Jersey and others.

Liability Burdens
TIA says New Jersey isn’t the only state that is disguising the extent of its debts. This dubious practice includes not accurately stating the amount of promised benefits other than pensions, or other post employment benefits (OPEBs).

What is happening in New Jersey, Bergman contends, is going on in much of the United States and might require more federal bailouts. States may need more COVID relief payments in order to stay solvent because they are unable to keep their promises to taxpayers and workers.

“In FY 2020, total unfunded pension liabilities among the 50 states were $926.3 billion. For every $1 of promised pension benefits, the 50 states have only set aside 64 cents on average to fund these promises,” according to the TIA report. “Furthermore, in FY 2020, total unfunded OPEB liabilities among the 50 states were $638.7 billion. For every $1 of promised retiree health care benefits, the 50 states have only set aside 8 cents on average to fund these promises.”

Still, S&P officials, while saying they don’t want to debate the TIA report, agree Garden State debt obligations are considerable and worse than most states.

“New Jersey,” S&P writes in an April 12 report, “has high retiree health costs, particularly for retired local school district teachers, which the state is responsible for. At fiscal year-end 2020, the state’s share of unfunded net OPEB liabilities totaled $65.5 billion, or $7,370 per capita, a reduction from the previous year following new labor agreements. At fiscal year-end 2019, New Jersey’s unfunded net OPEB liabilities totaled $75.9 billion, or $8,548 per capita, compared to an average of $1,971 in our most recent 50-state study.”

S&P officials note New Jersey is beginning to pay down debts. This is in part because its investments have recently done very well. Still, some of their actuarial assumption practices are suspect, critics say. They are assuming a seven percent rate of return on investments when the assumed rate should be six percent, S&P officials say.

Wirths believes state officials continue to use bad accounting practices.

“New Jersey gets away with too many gimmicks and relies too heavily on one-shot revenue, which is nearly $5 billion this year,” Wirths said. “Democrats used $4.15 billion from last year’s unexpected surplus, plus $800 million from non-recurring sources to balance the budget. That can’t be sustained.”

The S&P report also gives New Jersey a low grade on debt practices.

“On our scale of ‘1.0’ to ‘4.0’, where ‘1.0’ is the strongest score and ‘4.0’ the weakest, we have assigned a composite score of ‘3.7’ to New Jersey’s debt and liability profile,” according to S&P.

Moody’s, in its July 14 report, gave New Jersey an A3 rating on its general obligation (GO) bonds, a low rating. But it praised recent efforts by Gov. Murphy to solve the problems of long-term debt.

“The state has responded to a brightening revenue and liquidity picture with several actions reflecting a recent commitment to addressing more aggressively its liability burdens, demonstrating improved fiscal governance and management. These actions include debt reduction and avoidance and acceleration of pension contributions.”

Moody’s changed its outlook from “stable to positive.” That means the rating agency might upgrade the state’s bond rating in the next one to three years. If upgraded, it would mean the interest rates on New Jersey bonds could be decreased, saving taxpayers tens of millions of dollars in the cost of borrowing. If the reverse happens, taxpayers must pay more. This is the danger of anyone or any institution that uses a lot of borrowed money.

Still, the conclusion by Moody’s is mixed, acknowledging long-term debt problems and poor past practices but saying that they can be solved.

“The rating,” according to the report “reflects the state’s large, diverse, and wealthy economy offset by large, growing long-term liabilities and the burden of very large pension contributions, which are the result of substantial historic pension underfunding.”

New Jersey, Moody’s says, remains “vulnerable to budget risks in a period of continued uncertainty and may challenge the state’s ability to sustain its improving trajectory.”

Fitch Ratings, in its April 13th report, gives New Jersey an A- grade. It said its rating reflects New Jersey’s “adequate financial resilience.” But it also said that its condition is not as good as most states and stirs up some troublesome ghosts.

New Jersey’s weaker position, Fitch said, “is the legacy of decades of structural budget mismatches and escalating liabilities that had only partly been addressed by the time the coronavirus pandemic unfolded with the state as an initial epicenter.”

Fitch continued, “better-than-expected revenue performance has offset some of Fitch’s initial credit concerns, but risks remain, even with significant one-time federal aid coming from the March 2021 American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA).”

According to bond rating agencies, a triple BBB or A- rating means the state or city has adequate capability to meet its financial commitment today. However, in difficult economies, say a bear market period in which investments lost instead of made money, critics like Bergman say those states with these ratings and considerable long-term debt could be in trouble. They might have to raise taxes or cut programs to pay their bills.

Still, none of the rating agencies are as critical of New Jersey’s practices as TIA.

Why the Disparity?
Bergman contends rating agencies are compromised by relationships with states and cities. So they cannot, he adds, effectively evaluate fiscal conditions, their ability to pay bills, or even properly add up the debts, much of which are financed through bonds.

“We don’t work for bondholders like the credit rating agencies,” Bergman says. He previously worked as an economist and policy analyst at the Federal Reserve in Chicago.

The credit rating agencies, he adds, are part of a system that “puts money into the machine that forestalls the day of reckoning that is getting closer. It can take several forms including a federal bailout, which we are in the middle of. Thirty nine of the 50 states are sinkholes.”

However, S&P Global Senior Director David Hitchcock, with 41 years in the rating business, says no one has ever pressured him to give a better rating so bonds could be sold.

According to Bergman, the issue in these 41 states is how assets and liabilities are counted. This includes the debate over accrual versus cash basis accounting. He warns that badly run states often use cash basis accounting.

But S&P’s Hitchcock says “many accounting experts” would disagree with TIA’s standards. He says states are using a form of accrual standards as well as generally accepted accounting principles.


CPA experts say the difference between accrual and cash basis accounting is in when and how revenue and expenses are counted. The cash method is a more immediate recognition of revenue and expenses while the accrual method focuses on anticipated revenue and expenses.

What should citizens in “sinkhole” states do?

They should insist that governments improve the listing of assets and liabilities, TIA says.

“We believe,” Bergman said, “in accrual spending and accrual revenue, and that states should not be run on a cash basis. The problem is many states count borrowed money, which is not what you do in the private sector.”

Bergman complains that cash basis accounting is tantamount to a husband telling a wife that he has eliminated all their debts. “But the way he did it,” Bergman said, “was by putting all the debt on a new credit card.”

Gregory Bresiger
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History Learner

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This week Carlyle Co-CEOs Kewsong Lee and Glenn Youngkin shared the following message with our people around the world (May, 2020)

Carlyle has grown and prospered by deliberately building a fabric of partnership with diversity of experiences and perspectives. We are global. We are multi-cultural. In keeping with our deep commitment to our core values, we will continue to invest even more resources towards Diversity and Inclusion, not only at our firm, but in support of certain organizations focused on driving change in our world. Last month Carlyle partnered with Ascend, and 10 other organizations that champion diverse communities, to support an action agenda to address the adverse impact of the pandemic. As part of our efforts, the firm and individuals of Carlyle have already donated over $10 mm towards causes in light of the pandemic. Today, we are announcing a special match to support organizations that are working on social justice and reform of the US criminal justice system. Carlyle will match donations up to $1000 to the organizations listed below and it will not count towards your annual matching gifts limit of $2000. You will receive details on how to make a donation by the end of the week.​
- Equal Justice Initiative​
- Southern Poverty Law Center​
- NAACP Legal Defense Fund​

As even the DailyBeast noted:

“Carlyle has grown and prospered by deliberately building a fabric of partnership with diversity of experiences and perspectives. We are global. We are multi-cultural,” Youngkin’s statement said. “In keeping with our deep commitment to our core values, we will continue to invest even more resources towards Diversity and Inclusion, not only at our firm, but in support of certain organizations focused on driving change in our world.”​
Those groups are vocal advocates for racial and social justice. EJI and the NAACP more specifically support and promote the academic and legal lines of inquiry now broadly known as “critical race theory”—the right-wing bogeyman of the campaign cycle which has, in recent months, become a totem for the Youngkin campaign.​
 

TyrantTriumphant

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I'm willing to wait and see what he actually does in office. But if it turns out he lied to us I will not be happy. My mother volunteered to help with Youngkin's campaign and she worked her butt off to try and help him get elected. I do not want her to have gone through all that effort just to be ruled over by another grifter.
 

Bacle

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I'm willing to wait and see what he actually does in office. But if it turns out he lied to us I will not be happy. My mother volunteered to help with Youngkin's campaign and she worked her butt off to try and help him get elected. I do not want her to have gone through all that effort just to be ruled over by another grifter.
Grifters are what make up 90% of the GOP leadership in DC and on the state level too.

The other 10% are people like DeSantis, Abbott, Rand Paul, and...kinda Trump, but his campaign has had some grifting issues in it/around it as well.
 
Upping the ante even further against Uncle Joe!

49ersfootball

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@Cherico @TyrantTriumphant @Husky_Khan @Captain X Incoming VA Governor Glenn Youngkin (R) & incoming VA State Attorney General Jason Miyares (R) planning on fighting against vaccine mandates by declaring war on the Biden administration including the US Defense Department.

Any thoughts ?
 

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