Airedale260

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I've listened to some honest lefties talk about him...like Krystal from Breaking Points. She's as much of a dumb lefty as it gets, but she's honest, and I am taking her word for it.

Which is pretty much what I said. He doesn't need to lead or make big decisions, or do much of anything other than fill a seat and vote for Democrat policies. Show up. Vote. Go home. That's it. That's all you need out of a senator. He's a blue vote, that's what matters.

Partly, yes. But also keep in mind that there are a couple other things in play, especially (again) Oz being a shit-tier candidate *from outside of the state.* Most people don't appreciate that kind of person showing up and suddenly taking a Senate seat, unless said state is so solidly one color that Ham Sandwich will beat a candidate from the other party (see: Clinton, Hillary).

Pennsylvania is very much not a solid Republican state. Parachuting Oz in was incredibly dumb, and not helped by the fact that the PA GOP is absolutely incompetent about candidate vetting and the like.
 

Zachowon

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Hey, Abhorsen.
How can we be sure non of the Libertarian canadites that were spoilers wernt on the pay roll of the Dems?
 

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For those really in the dumps about Fettermans victory, look on the bright side. A) don't need to defend Oz, and B) memes.

Not to rain on your parade, but I think there's no way he stays in the senate for years. My bet is he's there for a few months, then retires and lets the governor appoint a replacement.
 

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Hey, Abhorsen.
How can we be sure non of the Libertarian canadites that were spoilers wernt on the pay roll of the Dems?
When the Dems funded so many Republican candidates? I think you're looking at the wrong party!

The biggest hint was all the money spent to support the Libs in the Arizona Senate race by the Dems, only wait, the Dems spent millions for someone who endorsed the Republican and dropped out?

But if we spoiled elections, I'm almost always happy about it. Cause it's a clear sign you gotta get more libertarian if you don't want to be spoiled. I was real sad Bolduc lost by as much as he did because we couldn't even claim that we spoiled that election, the Trump endorsed candidate was just that bad (like a lot of other Trump endorsed candidates).

I'm not rooting for chaos, I'm rooting for enough carnage of either party, enough that one of them has to buy us off with freedom or lose.

Not to rain on your parade, but I think there's no way he stays in the senate for years. My bet is he's there for a few months, then retires and lets the governor appoint a replacement.
They've kept Biden somehow, I think he might actually stay!
 

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After sleeping on this election cycle, and seeing how it is playing out, I can safely say that I have no faith in the GOP or our nation's future anymore.

Till the Boomer-cons die off, the GOP will keep shooting itself in the foot trying to keep catering to them, and till Trump learns to shut up about politics, he'll keep dragging the party down. I think he won in 2020, but his actions since have shown all he cares about is his own ego and brand.

Also, everyone who said 'oh, the Dems are panicking, no need to worry' are fucking fools of the highest order, and the people who kept selling false hope of a massive red wave need to fucking shut up about politics for a while, because it's obvious they don't actually know what the electorate thinks.
 

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After sleeping on this election cycle, and seeing how it is playing out, I can safely say that I have no faith in the GOP or our nation's future anymore.

Till the Boomer-cons die off, the GOP will keep shooting itself in the foot trying to keep catering to them, and till Trump learns to shut up about politics, he'll keep dragging the party down. I think he won in 2020, but his actions since have shown all he cares about is his own ego and brand.

Also, everyone who said 'oh, the Dems are panicking, no need to worry' are fucking fools of the highest order, and the people who kept selling false hope of a massive red wave need to fucking shut up about politics for a while, because it's obvious they don't actually know what the electorate thinks.
It's going to get worse. Your nation's future that's dependent on the petrodollar is numbered once Saudi Arabia really goes through with ending it.
 

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Things you could do to improve next time:
Help out Scott Pressler. His voter canvassing works. He's a good percentage of the reason Florida was a wipe out and the Republicans did so well in NY despite losing.

Run good candidates. Good candidates won/did well.

Quit Trump. He did not help you.

Oh, and consider talking to the libertarians about making sure to get an anti-war candidate on the ballot and libertarian backing.

Also, the Fetterman memes are a go!

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I'm maybe a third of the way to your position.
As I said, till the Boomer-cons die off and Trump bows out of politics, the GOP is effectively fucked, and the Dems are insane but entrenched.

This election was the make or break point for the GOP after 2020; the GOP didn't make it, and did break itself in a bunch of false hope's and cope.

You serve the system, so of course you aren't willing to declare it FUBAR yet, just like the other military members here. Turns out all those conservative NCO's don't mean shit politically, because the GOP is incompetent and the Dems control the game now.
It's going to get worse. Your nation's future that's dependent on the petrodollar is numbered once Saudi Arabia really goes through with ending it.
Oh, I know it's going to get worse, though I don't think the death of the petrodollar is coming.

I just don't think the progressives will ever be in the minority again, at least as far as elections go, and I do expect the GOP will not learn any lessons from this election.

Because the truth is the lolberts do have spoiling power, and most lolberts are more ok with Dem insanity than support for foreign issues or the military. So the Lolberts will keep helping the progressive win more and more, while the GOP will stick it's heads in the sand about why it lost parts of the center, and people like me will forever regret trusting the GOP and Trump.
 

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Whilst national elections should still be contested vigourasly, I think the American Right’s next step is to pause, take stock, have a big long think about just what it wants to be, then focus on bringing that to local elections.

If you wish to create a more conservative America, this is probably a more important place to start than even the Oval Office. This is where you can have a very serious impact on the wokesters, welfare, etc.

Essentially, on the local level, “Bull Moose” this bitch.
 
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Whilst national elections should still be contested vigourasly, I think the American Right’s next step is to pause, take stock, have a big long think about just what it wants to be, then focus on bringing that to local elections.

If you wish to create a more conservative America, this is probably a more important place to start than even the Oval Office. This is where you can have a very serious impact on the wokesters, welfare, etc.

Essentially, on the local level, “Bull Moose” this bitch.
Bull Moosing shit is what got us that fucktard Wilson, who caused mess's we are still cleaning up to this day.

There is no hope in US politics for the Right, at either the local or federal level, so long as the Right keeps trying to appease Boomer-cons and pretends Trump's ego+pettiness aren't serious issues for the party.

At this point the Lolberts might actually become viable as a third party, simply because they have shown spoiling power in multiple races, and the GOP hardcore base is shrinking, not expanding.
 

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Yes because giving into the Democrats, Neo-cons and Deep State-who are the ones who started pushing this ‘Dump Trump’ idea- has worked out so well in the past.

Honestly people, how can you really think switching to DeSantis would matter that much?

All it does it signal weakness and the Deep State’s cronies will just tar DeSantis with a slightly different color of tar then Trump. It’ll be the same basic talking points about ‘extremism’, ‘democracy under threat’ and so on and so forth.
 
Whilst national elections should still be contested vigourasly, I think the American Right’s next step is to pause, take stock, have a big long think about just what it wants to be, then focus on bringing that to local elections.

If you wish to create a more conservative America, this is probably a more important place to start than even the Oval Office. This is where you can have a very serious impact on the wokesters, welfare, etc.

Essentially, on the local level, “Bull Moose” this bitch.

Honestly I I think you monarchist have finally converted me. What this country needs is someone who's sole job is to make sure that the energy production (REAL energy not this joke of a green energy crap) runs like a well oiled machine the trade continues to flow and the wealth finds it's way back to the people. It's becoming increasingly clear that will never happen under "our democracy" In any significance as long as there are so many hands that can build for them a personal Treasury out of the people's money.

Just ensure a way to make sure the king can be reminded of his place, and I Will support the idea.
 
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Terthna

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While I'm sure there was at least some cheating going on, as there usually would be in a system as corrupt as ours, it doesn't seem like it escalated nearly to the levels seen during the 2020 election; nor does it seem like there was a need, considering what the latest incarnation of the so-called "red wave" has amounted to. Part of the problem I think is the fact that the Republican party, outside of a few exceptions like DeSantis, has utterly failed to position themselves as the solution to the problems we're currently facing. Another is that they've done very little to convince the American people as a whole to stop buying into the establishment's narrative; they've barely even tried, in fact, and have let the lies and calls for violence go unchallenged in any official capacity.
 

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