United States 2024: United States Senate Dicussion Thread

[Planchar]

As much as a rag on TIm Pool. And trust me I troll him everyday. He correctly points out that the bulk of Trump's picks actually won. But the media is trying to hide that fact.

I mean it doesn’t really matter if Trump endorsed republicans win in Alabama or Mississippi or Wyoming. Republicans were going to win there no matter what, regardless of Trumps endorsement. What matters is that the Republicans that Trump endorsed and that ran in purple states like Pennsylvania and Michigan lost. That seems to indicate to me that Trumps endorsement turned off a lot of right leaning and moderate independents that we need to win, both nationally and in swing states.

EDIT: It’s also why we are struggling so much in Arizona

 

[Bacle]

As much as a rag on TIm Pool. And trust me I troll him everyday. He correctly points out that the bulk of Trump's picks actually won. But the media is trying to hide that fact.

Ben Shapiro goes into why this isn't true, and is GOP cope, in a couple videos.




TL;DR: Most of the races Trump candidates won were not competitive races; in most of the competitive races, Trump-backed candidates lost or did poorly. Independents split for the Dems, on top of Libertarian spoilers in places; turns out pandering to the hardcore GOP base in the primaries does not equal great general election chances.

And Trump is lashing at DeSantis, even before the election, because he sees DeSantis as a threat to his sole power over the GOP nomination and future 'leadership role' of the GOP.

 

[Vyor]

And Trump is lashing at DeSantis, even before the election, because he sees DeSantis as a threat to his sole power over the GOP nomination and future 'leadership role' of the GOP.

Calling someone a friend and saying "I voted for him" is not lashing out.

Anyway...

 

[Rocinante]

Calling someone a friend and saying "I voted for him" is not lashing out.

Anyway...

Calling him "Ron Desanctimonious" days before the election certainly is, though.

 

[Vyor]

Calling him "Ron Desanctimonious" days before the election certainly is, though.

And then saying he voted for him after.

 

[Captain X]

Why are people even fighting between them?

 

[Zachowon]

Why are people even fighting between them?

Because the left is turning us against each other as people blame Teump endorsement for why the wave failes

 

[Abhorsen]

Calling someone a friend and saying "I voted for him" is not lashing out.

What a friend.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

What a friend.

Jesus Christ.

He really has lost it if he's actually thinking that. The left couldn't ask for a more petty or needless split in the American Right.

 

[DarthOne]

Jesus Christ.

He really has lost it if he's actually thinking that. The left couldn't ask for a more petty or needless split in the American Right.

For fucks sake…

 

[Rocinante]

Jesus Christ.

He really has lost it if he's actually thinking that. The left couldn't ask for a more petty or needless split in the American Right.

Trump only cares about Trump, and DeSantis is his biggest threat. So he will tear down the best republican in the nation if that's what it takes to keep himself headed toward power.

This is the primary reason I don't like Trump.

 

[What's the sitch?]

Not sure why people believed a "Red Wave" was going to occur, I never believed it but didn't want to be doom posting.

Broadly, It's either one of 2 things that happened or degrees of both

1. Enough People just really love Biden and Hate Trump/Trump adjacent things due blindly believing mainstream media. Things like if CNN said it, it must be true!! a lot of people that are just "normies" and heavily "blue pilled" they aren't really evil, but there's no way to really reach them until they reach a point where they are starving in the streets and there is no boogiemen/orangeman bad to be blamed.

2. Enough cheating happened, if cheating happened the first time, did you really think they wouldn't keep doing it lol?

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If your optimistic on reasons it might also be a small element of enough "hold outs" fleeing contested democrat areas, thus tilting the area in their favor, but it's really one or both of the above 2.

 

[Rocinante]

 

[What's the sitch?]

DeSantis and his hopefully good sucessors need to stay in Florida and keep being a hold out for Freedom to rekindle the continent after the former USA and Canada and Western Europe have burned themselves to cinders. The powers are too entrenched at this point and will not ever surrender peacefully/allow non pre approved candidates to "win", the technology is there and surveilance state and media are omnipresent, were in for a ride until the very end this time guys. ALL OF US. Enjoy the moments that you can.

 

[Abhorsen]

Why are people even fighting between them?

The left, because of TDS, will publish anything bad about Trump. But also, everyone knows Trump is going to go after DeSantis because he can't leave someone alone.

Look, as it goes, I actually liked the first 3/4ths of Trumps presidency. He was only continuing wars, not starting them, which was rather nice for a change, and he did commit to leaving Afghanistan. His deregulation and economy was also amazing.

But his 2020 was awful: his free money handouts are part of the reason that inflation is so high, and his leadership was abysmal during the riots and for not taking a proper stand against lockdowns, instead enabling them with federal handouts.

Worse, he is unelectable. I'm sorry to break this to you, but his name is poison, and many people will just never vote for him regardless of what happens. DeSantis seems to be your best candidate. He can handle the media well, having learned from Trump how to just make them the target of the story, so I'm not worried about media attacks on him. If he is anti-war, I'd strongly consider voting for him (it's gonna be a while so stuff could happen).

 

[Sailor.X]

I mean it doesn’t really matter if Trump endorsed republicans win in Alabama or Mississippi or Wyoming. Republicans were going to win there no matter what, regardless of Trumps endorsement. What matters is that the Republicans that Trump endorsed and that ran in purple states like Pennsylvania and Michigan lost. That seems to indicate to me that Trumps endorsement turned off a lot of right leaning and moderate independents that we need to win, both nationally and in swing states.

EDIT: It’s also why we are struggling so much in Arizona

We are at 32 State Legislatures now thanks to Trump. Stop thinking about the US House and Senate. The Real power is held in the States and always has been.

 

[Tiamat]

What a friend.

More like an adolescent schoolyard bully and overall complete jackass.

Sorry boys and girls, Trump is done. Ditch the prick.

 

[Vyor]

What a friend.

Jesus Christ.

He really has lost it if he's actually thinking that. The left couldn't ask for a more petty or needless split in the American Right.

For fucks sake…

Trump only cares about Trump, and DeSantis is his biggest threat. So he will tear down the best republican in the nation if that's what it takes to keep himself headed toward power.

This is the primary reason I don't like Trump.

It isn't even fucking real.

Stop falling for fucking psy-ops.

 

[JagerIV]

Look, do I need to point out the punted SCOTUS cases, or were you not counting those?

I mean, I can see the points you are making, and I generally agree, though I wouldn't describe the Russian invasion as something Dems 'encouraged'; Putin is the one ultimately responsible for the conflict being a thing.

See, that's a healthy mindset; I know that the way the GOP words donation request emails is part of what has turned me off to being more engaged with the party.

The GOP also has this bug about people 'owing' the party their effort and money for opposing the Dems, and the amount of grifters trying to ride the coattail of GOP candidates is alarming.

I'll be blunt, part of me wishes I had never publicly come out to support the GOP, and just been a 'hidden' Trump/GOP voter; coming out to support Trump and the GOP has been one of the worst ROI's I've ever seen, both monetarily and socially. The money I donated to Trump would be really nice right now, and the off-line isolation coming out for Trump/the GOP has caused is hard to bear, when the Trump/GOP support has been proven to have been effectively all for naught.

I mean, duh. Supporting the losers doesn't get you anything.

 

[Bacle]

Why are people even fighting between them?

Because Trump only cares about Trump and how to push the Trump brand, and any good he does for other people is a side effect at best.

He won in 2016 because Hillary was just that bad, not because Trump is the savior of this nation.

It isn't even fucking real.

Stop falling for fucking psy-ops.

Yeah, it's real.

Trump cannot stand not being the favored candidate for 2024, and is petty as fuck about what he views a 'loyalty' to him in perpetuity.