America First Caucus Founded

FriedCFour

PunishedCFour
Founder
I am going to start asking a very simple question to all doomers and blackpillers. Do you live in the United States? If yes, are you a registered Republican? If no, why not? If yes, are you a Precinct Committeeman? If no... do you have an hour a month and a day or two prior to each major election? They why aren't you a Precinct Committeeman?

PCs *run* the Republican Party, they are the ones who select county and state chairs, they are the ones who endorse primary candidates. And over 95% of primary candidates endorsed by the state party go on to win their primaries.

If you want to just be a keyboard warrior and beat your chest and wail and moan and complain, know that you are doing absolutely nothing to actually help the situation. If you want to actually be part of accomplishing something, check your state GOP website for the requirements, and become a PC. Here in AZ it basically requires getting 10 of your neighbors in your precinct to sign a petition to get on the ballot. We have over 4k PC positions in the state, with only 33% filled. So odds are you will be unopposed, in which case simply turning in the paperwork gets you the position.

You then are expected to attend monthly meeting of the precinct committee, which are generally held on Saturdays and take about an hour or so. You also are expected to participate in GOTV efforts during election season. Most importantly, you get to elect district and county committeemen, who in turn elect state committeemen...
I plan to do that as soon as I’m able, so that way I can be involved as much as I can in rooting out as much of Neoconservatism I can. Can’t because military. But yes, that’s very good advice.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
I am going to start asking a very simple question to all doomers and blackpillers. Do you live in the United States? If yes, are you a registered Republican? If no, why not? If yes, are you a Precinct Committeeman? If no... do you have an hour a month and a day or two prior to each major election? They why aren't you a Precinct Committeeman?

PCs *run* the Republican Party, they are the ones who select county and state chairs, they are the ones who endorse primary candidates. And over 95% of primary candidates endorsed by the state party go on to win their primaries.

If you want to just be a keyboard warrior and beat your chest and wail and moan and complain, know that you are doing absolutely nothing to actually help the situation. If you want to actually be part of accomplishing something, check your state GOP website for the requirements, and become a PC. Here in AZ it basically requires getting 10 of your neighbors in your precinct to sign a petition to get on the ballot. We have over 4k PC positions in the state, with only 33% filled. So odds are you will be unopposed, in which case simply turning in the paperwork gets you the position.

You then are expected to attend monthly meeting of the precinct committee, which are generally held on Saturdays and take about an hour or so. You also are expected to participate in GOTV efforts during election season. Most importantly, you get to elect district and county committeemen, who in turn elect state committeemen...
Some of us have no interest in becoming beholden to the GOP on an official level, and are registered Independents for a reason.

The GOP is just the lesser evil for now; that does not mean it will stay that way.

And if people like MTG and Feuntes are our only other option to get away from Romney and Cheney Neo-cons...then the GOP deserves to be rendered politically irrelevant.
 

FriedCFour

PunishedCFour
Founder
And if people like MTG and Feuntes are our only other option to get away from Romney and Cheney Neo-cons...then the GOP deserves to be rendered politically irrelevant.
It’s what Trump campaigned on though. Mexico is sending us rapists, build the wall, Americanism not globalism, less immigration, less free trade, industry, infrastructure, American heritage including the Confederacy and its Christian culture, an end to foreign wars that aren’t in our interests. I can provide quotes and lines on all of that. Everything in the America First Caucus are things Trump campaigned on or spoke in favor of.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
It’s what Trump campaigned on though. Mexico is sending us rapists, build the wall, Americanism not globalism, less immigration, less free trade, industry, infrastructure, American heritage including the Confederacy and its Christian culture, an end to foreign wars that aren’t in our interests. I can provide quotes and lines on all of that. Everything in the America First Caucus are things Trump campaigned on or spoke in favor of.
The caucus was a good idea.

But the people who seem to have been chosen to represent it blew the opportunity, because they ended up being fringe nuts like MTG and Fuentes.

What the GOP needs is about 50 more Rand Paul's and a libertarian-conservative caucus to do a lot of what Trump aimed for, but without the baggage of people like MTG and Fuentes.
 

FriedCFour

PunishedCFour
Founder
The caucus was a good idea.

But the people who seem to have been chosen to represent it blew the opportunity, because they ended up being fringe nuts like MTG and Fuentes.

What the GOP needs is about 50 more Rand Paul's and a libertarian-conservative caucus to do a lot of what Trump aimed for, but without the baggage of people like MTG and Fuentes.
Fuentes had zero involvement in this. He just had involvement with Gosar. Also, Libertarianism? Not that popular. You also already have that lol. It’s called the Liberty Caucus. They don’t do anything.
 
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LordSunhawk

Das BOOT (literally)
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Some of us have no interest in becoming beholden to the GOP on an official level, and are registered Independents for a reason.

The GOP is just the lesser evil for now; that does not mean it will stay that way.

And if people like MTG and Feuntes are our only other option to get away from Romney and Cheney Neo-cons...then the GOP deserves to be rendered politically irrelevant.
So you are only interested in complaining about it and not doing the one thing that could actually solve the problem.

You basically are wanting to stand in the sidelines and criticize without being willing to put in the actual work needed to advance a solution. Because all I am hearing from you is 'somebody else needs to actually fix the problem, I'm just here to complain'.

You want to purge the party of the Romney and Cheney clones? Then get in the damn trenches and do the work to actually replace the Romney and Cheney clones. Don't just stand there flapping your gums and waiting for somebody else to do it.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
So you are only interested in complaining about it and not doing the one thing that could actually solve the problem.

You basically are wanting to stand in the sidelines and criticize without being willing to put in the actual work needed to advance a solution. Because all I am hearing from you is 'somebody else needs to actually fix the problem, I'm just here to complain'.

You want to purge the party of the Romney and Cheney clones? Then get in the damn trenches and do the work to actually replace the Romney and Cheney clones. Don't just stand there flapping your gums and waiting for somebody else to do it.
See, you act as if me and others owe the GOP loyalty, just because we supported Trump; we don't.

If the GOP shows it's worth supporting by making gains in 2022, maybe they will once again be worth supporting.

We've seen how corrupt the GOP in DC is, and we haven't forgotten Bush Jr. and his wars either.

We also don't have the time to play 'catch-up' with the Far-Left using tactics they already mastered. Which is exactly what you are advocating for.

That's before we even touch election integrity issues.

I have no confidence in the US political system anymore, so why should I and others who feel the same want to be a active part of the charade?
 

Largo

Well-known member
We also don't have the time to play 'catch-up' with the Far-Left using tactics they already mastered. Which is exactly what you are advocating for.

That's before we even touch election integrity issues.

I have no confidence in the US political system anymore, so why should I and others who feel the same want to be a active part of the charade?
Okay, but then what are you advocating for? Like, you claim that you want libertarian-conservatives like Rand Paul, but you're going to have to put in the work if that's what you want to see happen. Which means doing what Sunhawk suggested.

I mean, I suppose there's another route to getting the right people into office. And a good chunk of you people seem to be more interested in that route these days.
 

Urabrask Revealed

Let them go.
Founder
Okay, but then what are you advocating for? Like, you claim that you want libertarian-conservatives like Rand Paul, but you're going to have to put in the work if that's what you want to see happen. Which means doing what Sunhawk suggested.

I mean, I suppose there's another route to getting the right people into office. And a good chunk of you people seem to be more interested in that route these days.
Oh no, no, @Bacle doesn't want the GOP to become conservative or anything like that. He wants it to become Demorats Lite, controlled opposition, a party that actively courts minorities and lgbt groups. Can't even crawl back to the actual democrats, nah, he gotta act like a colonizer.
 

FriedCFour

PunishedCFour
Founder
See, you act as if me and others owe the GOP loyalty, just because we supported Trump; we don't.

If the GOP shows it's worth supporting by making gains in 2022, maybe they will once again be worth supporting.

We've seen how corrupt the GOP in DC is, and we haven't forgotten Bush Jr. and his wars either.
You don’t have to owe them anything lol. What you’ve just stated is “The GOP needs to look like this instead of how it is now!” “I should do absolutely nothing what so ever to make the GOP look how I want it to!”

My groups big thought leader has said “destroy the GOP, and rebuild it how I want it.” He’s also gone and started all the party apparatus to do so and has started a program to get people involved at every level of the GOP, because that’s what you have to do to change it.

You have really strong opinions about change to the GOP but you’ve just made a big argument for doing absolutely nothing.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
Okay, but then what are you advocating for? Like, you claim that you want libertarian-conservatives like Rand Paul, but you're going to have to put in the work if that's what you want to see happen. Which means doing what Sunhawk suggested.

I mean, I suppose there's another route to getting the right people into office. And a good chunk of you people seem to be more interested in that route these days.
Ideally I am advocating for getting a Rand Paul-centrist GOP to coalesce and pull a comeback against the fringes of both parties.

Realistically I am saying that they only way the above happens is if the GOP first figures out a way to handle the election integrity issues.

If election integrity issues are not first addressed and handled, then running for any office is pointless.

The GOP also has to stop acting like anyone who isn't voting D owes the GOP their vote and political funds/political activities. I am an Independent for a reason, and have purposefully not signed up as a GOP member because of how fucked-up and incompetent the GOP political machine has proven to be.
You don’t have to owe them anything lol. What you’ve just stated is “The GOP needs to look like this instead of how it is now!” “I should do absolutely nothing what so ever to make the GOP look how I want it to!”

My groups big thought leader has said “destroy the GOP, and rebuild it how I want it.” He’s also gone and started all the party apparatus to do so and has started a program to get people involved at every level of the GOP, because that’s what you have to do to change it.

You have really strong opinions about change to the GOP but you’ve just made a big argument for doing absolutely nothing.
Yes, because you and your thought leader are fools and fossils playing a game the Dems and Far-left already mastered, but without the media and institutional backing the Dems have.

It also doesn't help you let anti-Semites take active roles in you political sphere; that right there dooms pretty much any attempt at garnering good will among a lot of the nation. Maybe her positions have support in her local area, and among others parts of the Far-Right fringe, but they are poison pills in general elections.

You also haven't addressed election integrity issues that need to be solved before there is any point to actually attempting to run for office.

I see the same tired talking points of here that keep making the rounds in conservative circles, that keep acting like the game isn't rigged and active political engagement can still fix things. I see a lot of people thinking that they can somehow outplay the Dems by doubling down on failed strategies, or trying something the Dems already mastered a while ago.

I wish we had a political third option, because the fact is I don't think either political party truly represents me, and I think there are a lot of people who feel the same. We have a broken, rigged system, and no amount of going along with the charade will ever fix it, nor will doubling down on failed strategies will fix it.

Maybe the GOP can be saved, and we will see what happens in 2022, but I'm not going to give another dime to the GOP till they show some results.
 

AnimalNoodles

Well-known member
The caucus was a good idea.

But the people who seem to have been chosen to represent it blew the opportunity, because they ended up being fringe nuts like MTG and Fuentes.

What the GOP needs is about 50 more Rand Paul's and a libertarian-conservative caucus to do a lot of what Trump aimed for, but without the baggage of people like MTG and Fuentes.

Libertarians are useless and only care about corporate profits, drugs, guns, gay sex and immigration.
 

Largo

Well-known member
Realistically I am saying that they only way the above happens is if the GOP first figures out a way to handle the election integrity issues.

If election integrity issues are not first addressed and handled, then running for any office is pointless.

The GOP also has to stop acting like anyone who isn't voting D owes the GOP their vote and political funds/political activities. I am an Independent for a reason, and have purposefully not signed up as a GOP member because of how fucked-up and incompetent the GOP political machine has proven to be.

That doesn't really change anything. It doesn't matter what you want the GOP to focus on. It can be election integrity or fighting SJWs or fighting against the imminent threat of Moon Nazis. If you want the GOP to focus on something, you need to put in the work to help have the GOP focus on that something.
 

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