Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

[Abhorsen]

And yet, those officers very often continue on in their job, usually without any real consequences. When a system so consistently produces a result, and that result is shrugged off and accepted, it is a part of the system. Also, the end result is that you might be somewhat inconvenienced in the UK for stupid shit, or you might be shot dead for no real reason in the US. If I had to move to one or the other, I know which way I'd lean. And that's before we even get into metal detectors at school and cops dragging kids out of classrooms, the tens of thousands who die preventably each year because funding healthcare is evil, or the ridiculous political system that basically forces you to accept one of two ideologies or go ignored. To my mind, those all impinge more on freedom more than whether the cops scrutinise my social media.

Look how quickly you diverge into talking about stuff that have nothing to do with freedom. You do not have a real argument here. And the idea that somehow cops in the UK are somehow better than US ones is laughable, when the UK ones are afraid to arrest rapists. The US is working on fixing it's cop problem, in our slow, plodding way. I know very well that most cops aren't good. But then neither are UK cops. Both will enforce evil laws if they are told to without question.

The US doesn't promise safety. It promises dangerous freedom. Freedom, shockingly, isn't free. That' isn't just a cute statement about supporting veterans/the troops. It means that no, there is no government heathcare. No, there will be people walking around with guns. Yes, there will be people with abominable viewpoints espousing them on public streets.

The UK, meanwhile, has almost nothing free about it. It has almost no limitations on government, limits speech, has a state religion, and I could go on. It isn't a free country.

 

[Megadeath]

Look how quickly you diverge into talking about stuff that have nothing to do with freedom. You do not have a real argument here. And the idea that somehow cops in the UK are somehow better than US ones is laughable, when the UK ones are afraid to arrest rapists. The US is working on fixing it's cop problem, in our slow, plodding way. I know very well that most cops aren't good. But then neither are UK cops. Both will enforce evil laws if they are told to without question.

The US doesn't promise safety. It promises dangerous freedom. Freedom, shockingly, isn't free. That' isn't just a cute statement about supporting veterans/the troops. It means that no, there is no government heathcare. No, there will be people walking around with guns. Yes, there will be people with abominable viewpoints espousing them on public streets.

The UK, meanwhile, has almost nothing free about it. It has almost no limitations on government, limits speech, has a state religion, and I could go on. It isn't a free country.

Pretty sure it does indeed relate to freedom. There is no more complete abrogation of freedom than death, so having a much higher chance of being randomly killed by a cop does in fact impinge on freedom. Having to turn schools into fortresses does impact on freedom. Free access to healthcare, the ability to go visit a doctor because you're worried, rather than having to worry that you might need to see a doctor and can't afford it is a freedom. I'd also argue that despite having a state religion the UK is more religiously tolerant than the huge majority of America is.

 

[Abhorsen]

Pretty sure it does indeed relate to freedom. There is no more complete abrogation of freedom than death, so having a much higher chance of being randomly killed by a cop does in fact impinge on freedom. Having to turn schools into fortresses does impact on freedom. Free access to healthcare, the ability to go visit a doctor because you're worried, rather than having to worry that you might need to see a doctor and can't afford it is a freedom. I'd also argue that despite having a state religion the UK is more religiously tolerant than the huge majority of America is.

No, there is no more complete abrogation of freedom than the government killing you. In contrast, someone dying of cancer from cigarettes they chose to smoke knowing the problems was free. Preventing someone from smoking cigarettes doesn't make them more free.

As for religious toleration, again, I point out the arrest of people silently praying. How free...

 

[Buba]

Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida is Making an Unannounced Trip to Ukraine, traveling to Kyiv by train from Poland. This happens around the same time Chinese Communist Party Premier Xi Jingping is visiting Putin in Moscow.

Now this is interesting!
I wonder if they be coordinating ... or reacting to one another ...
"When white cat fight black cat, mouse becomes a tiger and in darkness binds them."
Cryptic and DEEP faux Old Chinese Wisdom I just made up

I point out the arrest of people silently praying.

How many of them are not white and/or wearing turbans or yarmulkas?

 

[Husky_Khan]

400,000 more troops Russia plans on mobilizing. It looks like the Russians are planning on pursuing the most direct way they can win this war, via attrition and drowning the Ukrainians in bodies until the Ukrainian forces are depleted of manpower. 😕

Throwing away tens of thousands of Russian lives for the prestige project (and more hydrocarbons because Russia doesn't have enough of those apparently).

 

[Bacle]

Good to see Abu TOW is still kicked Russian ass's.

 

[lloyd007]

Good to see Abu TOW is still kicked Russian ass's.

Man he looks like he wishes he wasn't...

 

[Husky_Khan]

Man he looks like he wishes he wasn't...

Because he'd rather be operating a Stugna.

Unfortunately TOW is his brand now.

 

[Zachowon]

Second army of the world everyone.
Using tanks older then all of the western worlds tanks combined

 

[Tyzuris]

Second army of the world everyone.
Using tanks older then all of the western worlds tanks combined

Yeah. At this point it's getting clear Russia is a paper tiger and the supposedly thousands upon thousands of ''stored'' modern(ish) tanks, artillery, etc... are probably unusable crap left neglected of maintenance for too long as half the Russian defense budget vanished into Oligarchs' / corrupt officers' yachts, private jets and mansions. And now probably those thousands of stored T-72s and T-80s and howitzers are rusted crap unworthy of even being scrap metal.

With the upcoming economic collapse of Russia, them soon running out of money from whatever war chest they have left, Rusia will probably be in for a permanent collapse in military capability as they will not have the money to replace their losses in Ukraine when the main pillar of their economy (fossile fuel exports) gets fucked over anyway in the future as the world moves to more environmentally friendly sources of energy.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Oryx Released a List of Vehicles the Russians are Bringing Into Service in their Ukrainian Invasion Older Then Their Dad(s), or the year 1970.

Dad’s Army: List Of Russian Army Equipment Deployed In Ukraine Older Than Our Parents

www.oryxspioenkop.com

It was a new article, but they had to update it already with the T-54-3 and T-54B which first came out in 1951 and 1959 respectively.

If your curious, the oldest piece of military equipment isn't the Maxim Machine Gun which is being used by both sides, but something else far more humble... that dates from the year 1878. 👀

 

[Tiamat]

Oryx Released a List of Vehicles the Russians are Bringing Into Service in their Ukrainian Invasion Older Then Their Dad(s), or the year 1970.

Dad’s Army: List Of Russian Army Equipment Deployed In Ukraine Older Than Our Parents

www.oryxspioenkop.com

It was a new article, but they had to update it already with the T-54-3 and T-54B which first came out in 1951 and 1959 respectively.

If your curious, the oldest piece of military equipment isn't the Maxim Machine Gun which is being used by both sides, but something else far more humble... that dates from the year 1878. 👀

Mosin Nagant rifles. Seen those in the hands of the Russian-organized Donetsk and Luhansk militias. 😳

 

[Zachowon]

The shovels

 

[Husky_Khan]

The shovels

We need to send these to Ukraine immediately.

Original U.S. Spanish-American War Era Army Model 1880 Entrenching Tool with Leather Sheath

Original Item: Only One Available. This is something that we have only seen once before! Developed during the same period of American "multi-use" military experimentation that produced the Springfield Trapdoor ramrod and trowel bayonets, the 1880 Entrenching Tool was meant to be issued in lieu...

www.ima-usa.com

Original Model 1873 Springfield Trowel Bayonet with Scabbard for 45/70 Trapdoor Springfield Rifle

Original Item: Only One Available. Designed to fit a 45/70 Trapdoor Springfield Rifle, these you just don't see anymore, probably a totally useless weapon that was supposed to double as an entrenching tool. Issued in 1873 and never considered a great success, these have basically dried up from...

www.ima-usa.com

 

[Husky_Khan]

Twitter Thread on the Kursk Line which the local Kursk government is spending the equivalent of almost $50 million dollars on fortifications for the inevitable Ukrainian conquest and ethnic cleansing of their puny neighbors.

Thread by @ChrisO_wiki on Thread Reader App

@ChrisO_wiki: 1/ Russia's Kursk region is to spend 3.2 billion rubles ($42.1 million) on building border fortifications by 5 June this year – equivalent to a third of its annual health budget and more than it spends...…

threadreaderapp.com

They're building three defensive lines of trenches, dragons teeth and bunkers/pillboxes plus there are now advertisements on the internet for private citizens to be able to purchase their own anti-tank obstacles for when the Banderite UkroNazis come for you and your Jewry.

Similar defensive works are also being constructed in the Belgorod Region as well as Crimea itself (on a seemingly much larger scale) obviously.

 

[lloyd007]

Twitter Thread on the Kursk Line which the local Kursk government is spending the equivalent of almost $50 million dollars on fortifications for the inevitable Ukrainian conquest and ethnic cleansing of their puny neighbors.

Thread by @ChrisO_wiki on Thread Reader App

@ChrisO_wiki: 1/ Russia's Kursk region is to spend 3.2 billion rubles ($42.1 million) on building border fortifications by 5 June this year – equivalent to a third of its annual health budget and more than it spends...…

threadreaderapp.com

They're building three defensive lines of trenches, dragons teeth and bunkers/pillboxes plus there are now advertisements on the internet for private citizens to be able to purchase their own anti-tank obstacles for when the Banderite UkroNazis come for you and your Jewry.

Similar defensive works are also being constructed in the Belgorod Region as well as Crimea itself (on a seemingly much larger scale) obviously.

If it allows Kursk residents to say, ' Can't spare our young men, they're needed for building and manning the defensive works!' I think they'd say that's money well spent.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

Ruined Cities that Russia Has Occupied are becoming Tourist Attractions for Russian citizens.

Jesus Christ, propaganda's been painfully effective on that one. Totally desensitised to what's going on around her.

 

[lloyd007]

Jesus Christ, propaganda's been painfully effective on that one. Totally desensitised to what's going on around her.

TBF, the whole 'book is from someone who died in the city' is also propaganda since there's no way to know that but saying it was 'just' almost certainly looted doesn't have the same impact.

 

[Bacle]

 

[lloyd007]

Now that modern NATO tanks are arriving in Ukraine, it'll be interesting to see how much of an impact they'll make, will they be HIMARS level game changers or closer to 'more tanks is better' like the M777's and SPG's.