Culture "Aspects and Assumptions of Whiteness and White Culture In the United States" as presented by the Smithsonian

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Man I didn't realize the Smithsonian was into making sarcastic memes but damn, when they meme, they don't do it half assed. This almost looks like it could be a legitimate infographic made by an actual academic or educational institution if the subject matter and presentation wasn't so ridiculous.

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So clearly we have a lot to unpack here. I think it's worthwhile to take this all in and think and pontificate on it for a bit before providing a more fulsome and thorough reaction.
 
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Firstly, I have to ask since these things are implicitly assumed to be bad, what is the smithsonian saying about the unspoken opposites.

Let's take time as a less inflammatory example.

Time in White culture is rigid, show up on time, and its treated as a commodity-which I assume means its value is assumed in how much or little of it there is. "There's little time to wait!", or "we have all the time in the world" being implicitly white notions of time.

Okay, if this is the case this means say African conceptions of time are loose and not commodified. Whether or not that's actually true is a different subject, the implication here is non whites either don't value time at all, theirs or others, or they see it as elastic and infinite. This would mean in African societies-no need to show up at a set time for your job, maybe don't show up at all, or show up I guess before the noon sun? I'm getting Uncle Remus vibes here-the relaxed wise black man who doesn't worry about being on time, and has no sense of urgency, and is at peace with the flow of the world and asks the young white protagonist, "what are y'all in so much a hurry about?"

Are they saying this is an innate quality of blacks or non whites in general? The implication would be Europeans and Whites take the passing of days seriously, and have a sense of urgency and social discipline, that non whites lack.

I'll leave other Sietchers to unpack some other aspects of this, but Good God if this is the state of American museums, we need to start considering other institutions to take pictures of T-Rex skulls.
 
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GodIsaSerb

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There is so much here I literally don't even know where to begin. To note, I WISH I lived in a culture where all of these ideals were cherished and were the norm.

So the first problem I see is lumping ALL white people into one monolithic group of people and saying all of them share this culture in the US. There is no "white culture" there are thousands of different cultures created by "white" people spanning Europe, North America, South Africa, Oceania, and South America. These people come to the United States carrying their unique cultures with them but just because they all look similar they are considered the same? Because this entire infograph is predicated on the idea that a monolithic white culture of English Protestant origin exists in the US, and that assertion is patently false, then that means this whole infographic is bunk.

The infograph is bunk but also it raises other questions. If aspects such as hardwork, planning ahead, and having a strong nuclear family are part of white culture then does that automatically mean they are not part of other races' cultures? Is this infograph saying that its not part of black culture to work hard and plan ahead? If a black person works hard to provide a good life for his wife and kids is he an "Uncle Tom" because he is adopting aspects of "white culture"?

If NMAAHC wasn't written at the top of this infograph I would assume it was from Stormfront because it seems so racist against non-whites. I could slap a 4chan sticker on the top of this page and send it to the SPLC to get /pol/ shut down its so bad. The NMAAHC is the National Museum for African American History and Culture and its run by a black man for black people. Why on earth would a black person want to convince themselves or their peers that working hard and succeeding based purely on individual skill and merit is something that is counter to their culture? What would the black community gain by accepting this rhetoric? I don't understand whats going on.
 

GodIsaSerb

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Since whiteness is supposed to be bad, they apparently want you non-objective, lazy, emotional, impulsive, inarticulate, sterile, fat, badly groomed and always late.

Seeing as how the modern left heavily pushes a totally relativistic post-modern philosophy, a dysfunctional school system, weed, fast food, fat acceptance, and vasectomies it think you are right on the money. A nation of useful idiots is of no threat to those in power.
 
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I'm gonna have to use this for my future career.

"Why are you late!"

"I'm just interrogating my whiteness"

"Oh okay."

(not really-but I can see why a lot of people would use this shit as an excuse to be lazy fucks-their trying to be anti racist!!!).
 
Man I didn't realize the Smithsonian was into making sarcastic memes but damn, when they meme, they don't do it half assed. This almost looks like it could be a legitimate infographic made by an actual academic or educational institution if the subject matter and presentation wasn't so ridiculous.

jCyuNMO.png


So clearly we have a lot to unpack here. I think it's worthwhile to take this all in and think and pontificate on it for a bit before providing a more fulsome and thorough reaction.


I don't even know where to begin to break this down both in terms of inaccuracies and unfortanate implications.

For starters I guess: These are stereotypes, very racist sterotypes, both in the sense that this assumes all whites are like this, and racist that it assumes no one else is like this.
 

AnimalNoodles

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Seeing as how the modern left heavily pushes a totally relativistic post-modern philosophy, a dysfunctional school system, weed, fast food, fat acceptance, and vasectomies it think you are right on the money. A nation of useful idiots is of no threat to those in power.

Its a perfect example of transvaluation, where the values are inverted. Its easier to elevate sloth and impulsiveness as values than it is to fix ones weaknesses.
 

AnimalNoodles

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I'm gonna have to use this for my future career.

"Why are you late!"

"I'm just interrogating my whiteness"

"Oh okay."

(not really-but I can see why a lot of people would use this shit as an excuse to be lazy fucks-their trying to be anti racist!!!).

This will never apply to whites. As the lowest caste in the intersectional caste system, you have no valid excuses for failures.
 

Yinko

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There are really two ways to interpret the Smithsonian's publication. Either they are attacking all virtue by associating it with an implicit evil, or they are thinly veiled racial supremacists using terms like 'white fragility' as a get out of jail free card.

That latter seems far more likely to me now than it ever did before the current unrest. When you have Leftist groups apparently trying to use covid to commit ethnic cleansing and repeal civil rights laws, it's not a great leap to say that this sort of graphic is exactly what it looks like.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Its a perfect example of transvaluation, where the values are inverted. Its easier to elevate sloth and impulsiveness as values than it is to fix ones weaknesses.

Of course, you are solely or mostly the product of your environment, there’s little self determination

And you can’t get out or work your way out on your own

The only thing that will really really really help is government intervention
 
Of course, you are solely or mostly the product of your environment, there’s little self determination

And you can’t get out or work your way out on your own

The only thing that will really really really help is government intervention


and if you can, then well...well...you suffer from internal racism!!! wah wah blerg, 😭😭☠
 

CarlManvers2019

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There was that time you described motives of the left as

My point is that I think your rhetoric is usually too dramatic.

I think it’s really LIKES LIKES AT ALL COSTS

I mean these guys probably feel way better getting likes and praise both on social media and IRL than actually even having sex, having money, having drugs, having sex while smoking money with drugs in them etc

Unlikely to actually want to have a tank or anything similar
 

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