ISOT Back to the Past, aka Poland Saves the World from World War II.

[Batrix2070]

Franciszek Kleeberg -Polish officer with the rank of brigadier general, Commander of the Brześć (Brest) Fortress in 1938 and Commander of Corps District No. IX (administrative unit) civil-military.

Jarosław Kaczyński aka "Prezes" (Chairman) -
Polish politician and doctor of law. The leader of the currently ruling Prawo i Sprawiedliwość (Law and Justice) party, he is colloquially known as the Chairman by virtue of his position although he is sometimes also called the Warden because of the obvious connotations between PiS and Sanacja. Many like to mock that he considers himself a second Pilsudski, ignoring the fact that it was during his party's rule that Pilsudski's stature was downgraded and other fathers of Poland's independence were recalled. For the left-liberal opposition, evil incarnate.

The main player in Polish politics, sitting in the shadows.

Mateusz Morawiecki - Polish prime minister, politician, banker, manager. He is also a historian by education. Commonly nicknamed Vatowiecki, from Vat tax, given that during his reign taxes both began not even to increase, but to appear in massive numbers, under various euphemistic names. Nonetheless, his successes include the sealing of Poland's tax system as well as Poland's overall development, which accelerated massively during his rule. Although many have suspicions that he was pushed into Kaczynski by force, as he suddenly and unexpectedly replaced Beata Szydło, who was elected prime minister in the 2015 elections.

Andrzej Duda - Polish lawyer with a doctorate and politician. Elected by the Law and Justice party as president, (although legally he was forced to withdraw from the party after being elected). He has been Poland's head of state since 2015, although he barely managed to win re-election in 2020. Widely known on the Polish internet for his activism, as well as the memes of his own face and min. Called an election thief by the opposition, as well as a pen-pusher for signing the ruling party's laws.

Rajmund Andrzejczak - a Polish officer with the rank of four-star general, since 2018 the Chief of General Staff of the Polish Army as well as the designated Commander-in-Chief for the war period. An experienced officer, a veteran of Afghanistan, he commanded the 4th and 5th shift of the Polish contingent in that country. Widely liked by his subordinates.

Wiesław Kukuła - a Polish officer with the rank of General of Arms (In the US Army to Lieutenant General), has always been a soldier of special forces, was a soldier of the 1st Commando Regiment from Lubinec (such Polish Rangers) as well as their commander. He was the co-founder and first commander of the Territorial Defense Forces, and has now taken command of the General Command of the Armed Forces' General Staff, which manages military units in times of peace and crisis as well as being responsible for their equipment as well as training.

Mariusz Błaszczak - Polish politician, local government official and historian. Current Minister of National Defense on behalf of the Law and Justice party. A politician unlikely to appear in mainstream Polish politics, preferring to get on with his work. Apart from accusing him of homophobia in 2018, the opposition does not deal with him.

Edward Smigly-Rydz (actually Edward Rydz alias Smigly.) - Polish military officer of the rank of Marshal of Poland, politician. Commander-in-Chief during the September campaign, replaced under pressure from the Allies and as a result of internment in Romania by Wladyslaw Sikorski after the defeat of Poland. He is a philosopher by education and a painter by passion. He has formal military training in the rank of aspiring officer received back in the Austro-Hungarian era. He died under suspicious circumstances in 1941 in occupied Poland, officially of a heart attack. The extremely poor conditions of being in Poland caused him to relapse from his earlier days. Or at least that's the official version.

Jaroslaw Wolski - Polish political scientist, trader, journalist and columnist associated with the field of defense mainly in matters of armored and anti-tank weapons. Civilian military analyst.
Dawid Kamizela - Polish journalist, editor of the military magazine Frag Out!, specializing in aviation and naval affairs.

Jarosław Ziemiański- Polish naval officer of the rank of Vice Admiral, currently Inspector of the Navy in the General Command of the Armed Forces (i.e. he is de facto Commander-in-Chief of the Navy)

Zbigniew Rau - Polish politician, academician and lawyer. Full professor of legal sciences at the University of łodz. Currently Minister of Foreign Affairs in the second government of Mateusz Morawiecki.

Ireneusz Nowak -Polish officer and pilot with the rank of brigadier general. Inspector of the Air Force in the General Command of the Armed Forces (that is the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force).

Daniel Obajtek- Polish politician, local government activist, civil servant and manager. The current chairman of the huge Orlen corporation.

Sebastian Chwałek - Polish politician, lawyer, Law and Justice (PiS) activist, current CEO of PGZ.

 

[Buba]

DT people will be astonished by somebody bearing the name "Dawid" and NOT being Jewish. As an older person I'm still baffled by this myself ...
Until the 1980s Dawid stood amongst Baruch, Szmul, etc. as an "ethnicity indentifier" name.

Śmigły-Rydz should be shot for cowardice and abandoning his troops in face of the enemy. Live and on national TV, preferably.

 

[Batrix2070]

Śmigły-Rydz should be shot for cowardice and abandoning his troops in face of the enemy. Live and on national TV, preferably.

The problem lies in two places, there is no death penalty in Poland and it will not return soon, and Rydz cannot be convicted of something he did not do. He is a separate person from the one remembered by history, sentencing to death for something he did not do is neither reasonable nor useful.

 

[bintananth]

DT people will be astonished by somebody bearing the name "Dawid" and NOT being Jewish. As an older person I'm still baffled by this myself ...
Until the 1980s Dawid stood amongst Baruch, Szmul, etc. as an "ethnicity indentifier" name.

The downtimers will have to get used to names which aren't what they expect or appear to be.

 

[ATP]

The problem lies in two places, there is no death penalty in Poland and it will not return soon, and Rydz cannot be convicted of something he did not do. He is a separate person from the one remembered by history, sentencing to death for something he did not do is neither reasonable nor useful.

Why not return of death penalty? modern poles want it,old poles wanted it.Would PIS keep it from people and lost election ?
Now,there is no excuse that EU do not let us do that.
PIS must do all things they promised,or they would be replaced.

About Rydz - he still is succesfull general from 1920,but better do not gave him any real function.
Maybe use as pacifier for officers from 1938?

P.S where was Haller in 1938? He would be REALLY useful.

 

[Batrix2070]

Why not return of death penalty? modern poles want it,old poles wanted it.Would PIS keep it from people and lost election ?
Now,there is no excuse that EU do not let us do that.
PIS must do all things they promised,or they would be replaced.

Do you realize it's only been two weeks? Poland has not yet implemented and stabilized in this world.

About Rydz - he still is succesfull general from 1920,but better do not gave him any real function.
Maybe use as pacifier for officers from 1938?

Well, I think I said who he is?
For now, Commander-in-Chief of the Polish Army of the Second Republic and interim President of the Second Republic until reunification.

After reunification, he will serve as an advisor to Kaczynski and Minister for Eastern Borderlands, it should be remembered that dowtimers Poles have no ill feelings towards him and any because Rydz did so in our reality they will sink with warm urine, according to the principle of "What was and is not, is not written in the register."

Besides, I'll say it again, Rydz himself put himself at the disposal of the Polish government and is satisfied that the role of Minister of National Defense and Commander-in-Chief is performed by someone else. And I see a place where such a Marshal can be used, in the sense of propaganda as well as this person in the Polish government acting as a reminder to future Poles that now Poland is already a superpower and can and should set its own rules.

In short, he will be the one in the government who will remind Kaczynski that no pandering to Lithuanians, Ukrainians and others at the expense of Polish interests. One can accuse him of much, but probably not that he is not primarily pro-Polish.

P.S where was Haller in 1938? He would be REALLY useful.

In Wladyslawow, there was his home since 1922. So if he was not currently abroad, which is a possible connection with the Morges Front. He is not there, although if I think he would be useful for a story, I will pull him out of a hat. Yes, just like Rydz. Although originally I didn't want to take it out, but when by chance I found out where Pilecki lived, that is in Baranowicze because the Pileckis were Rydz's neighbors, I took it out because it would have been quite coincidental.

 

[bintananth]

The way Rydz is being shown reminds me of a US Civil War General: Ambrose Burnside.

Burnside knew he wasn't the right man for overall command of an Army and said so but reluctantly took the job because everyone else under consideration was either incompetent or too inexperienced.

 

[Batrix2070]

Burnside knew he wasn't the right man for overall command of an Army and said so but reluctantly took the job because everyone else under consideration was either incompetent or too inexperienced.

The difference is that Rydz's choice for the post was political. Because of all the candidates for commander-in-chief after Pilsudski that Pilsudski left on the list, he was the last choice. Nevertheless, he got the job because, unlike the other candidates, he was mainly involved in military activities and avoided politics.

The others, yes, were better militarily, but had political ambitions, including the main contender Kazimierz Sosnowski, the most preferred option by Pilsudski as his successor. Rydz, on the other hand, had no political ambitions, hence Slawek and Moscicki unanimously chose him as Pilsudski's successor. Of course, over time he became interested in politics, although here one sees the influence of those around him rather than the person himself. They wanted to make him Pilsudski's successor and a person who, like him, united both the Sanation and the nation. Which, unfortunately, affected him himself.

 

[ATP]

The difference is that Rydz's choice for the post was political. Because of all the candidates for commander-in-chief after Pilsudski that Pilsudski left on the list, he was the last choice. Nevertheless, he got the job because, unlike the other candidates, he was mainly involved in military activities and avoided politics.

The others, yes, were better militarily, but had political ambitions, including the main contender Kazimierz Sosnowski, the most preferred option by Pilsudski as his successor. Rydz, on the other hand, had no political ambitions, hence Slawek and Moscicki unanimously chose him as Pilsudski's successor. Of course, over time he became interested in politics, although here one sees the influence of those around him rather than the person himself. They wanted to make him Pilsudski's successor and a person who, like him, united both the Sanation and the nation. Which, unfortunately, affected him himself.

Wait,i thought that Piłsudzki designated Sławek as successor.
And,Sosnkowski would certainly fight smarter in 1939.Maybe long enough for France to move,which would let to end of war in 1940.

Do you realize it's only been two weeks? Poland has not yet implemented and stabilized in this world.

Well, I think I said who he is?
For now, Commander-in-Chief of the Polish Army of the Second Republic and interim President of the Second Republic until reunification.

After reunification, he will serve as an advisor to Kaczynski and Minister for Eastern Borderlands, it should be remembered that dowtimers Poles have no ill feelings towards him and any because Rydz did so in our reality they will sink with warm urine, according to the principle of "What was and is not, is not written in the register."

Besides, I'll say it again, Rydz himself put himself at the disposal of the Polish government and is satisfied that the role of Minister of National Defense and Commander-in-Chief is performed by someone else. And I see a place where such a Marshal can be used, in the sense of propaganda as well as this person in the Polish government acting as a reminder to future Poles that now Poland is already a superpower and can and should set its own rules.

In short, he will be the one in the government who will remind Kaczynski that no pandering to Lithuanians, Ukrainians and others at the expense of Polish interests. One can accuse him of much, but probably not that he is not primarily pro-Polish.

In Wladyslawow, there was his home since 1922. So if he was not currently abroad, which is a possible connection with the Morges Front. He is not there, although if I think he would be useful for a story, I will pull him out of a hat. Yes, just like Rydz. Although originally I didn't want to take it out, but when by chance I found out where Pilecki lived, that is in Baranowicze because the Pileckis were Rydz's neighbors, I took it out because it would have been quite coincidental.

1.You said,that death penalty would not come back soon.Which seems stupid,becouse it could be done in few months.And help PIS in next elections.
Not mention,that state without death penalty must fall.
2.Rydz countering any silly pro-ukrainian moves - good choice.Ukrainians from 1938 was pro-germans,there in no point in trying to be nice to them.
By the way,in 1938 ended so called Wołyń experiment - where Pilsudzki man,Henryk Józefski,was made wojewoda and did everything he could to turn people who considered themselves as locals into ukrainians.
They butchered about 100.000 poish cyvilians to thank for that during WW2.
That dude should be kicked out of goverment.
And somebody should kill Bandera,if he is in polish prison.
3.Try to use Haller in East Poland,and USA.Polish minority there loved him.

 

[Batrix2070]

Wait,i thought that Piłsudzki designated Sławek as successor.

As the head of the Sanation camp, but as the military successor was to be Sosnowski and at least he was the most preferred. In the end they convinced him to Rydz, precisely for the reasons mentioned earlier,

1.You said,that death penalty would not come back soon.Which seems stupid,becouse it could be done in few months.And help PIS in next elections.
Not mention,that state without death penalty must fall.

Remember what kind of people PiS is made up of, Ziobro may be willing to introduce it immediately, but Kaczynski is.... Kaczynski. The restriction of abortion itself was forced on him.

And somebody should kill Bandera,if he is in polish prison.

Bandera will not escape, while these Ukrainians will be suppressed by our Ukrainians. According to the principle, fight fire with fire. Of course, this task will not be easy, but ultimately our Ukrainians will prevail. Although I wonder how to bite the whole subject. He doesn't want it to be easy, but not that it's impossible either. I have an idea in my head about some simple Ukrainian, a refugee from the part of Ukraine engulfed in war but who took the pro-Banderist propaganda that is spreading in Ukraine and clashed with actual Banderism.

End of the day, he has a completely different experience with Poland than those there, so this acrimonious hatred of theirs against it will come as a shock to him, because you have to remember what aspects of the UPA the propaganda was based on and what was removed from it. What and he himself has seen what Germany really did when Ukraine was in need and who helped it, so their love for Germany for him will be a reason to grab for the head.

3.Try to use Haller in East Poland,and USA.Polish minority there loved him.

That's the idea, let the US sleep. Poland does not need one more trouble to add to its collection.

 

[ATP]

As the head of the Sanation camp, but as the military successor was to be Sosnowski and at least he was the most preferred. In the end they convinced him to Rydz, precisely for the reasons mentioned earlier,

Remember what kind of people PiS is made up of, Ziobro may be willing to introduce it immediately, but Kaczynski is.... Kaczynski. The restriction of abortion itself was forced on him.

Bandera will not escape, while these Ukrainians will be suppressed by our Ukrainians. According to the principle, fight fire with fire. Of course, this task will not be easy, but ultimately our Ukrainians will prevail. Although I wonder how to bite the whole subject. He doesn't want it to be easy, but not that it's impossible either. I have an idea in my head about some simple Ukrainian, a refugee from the part of Ukraine engulfed in war but who took the pro-Banderist propaganda that is spreading in Ukraine and clashed with actual Banderism.

End of the day, he has a completely different experience with Poland than those there, so this acrimonious hatred of theirs against it will come as a shock to him, because you have to remember what aspects of the UPA the propaganda was based on and what was removed from it. What and he himself has seen what Germany really did when Ukraine was in need and who helped it, so their love for Germany for him will be a reason to grab for the head.

That's the idea, let the US sleep. Poland does not need one more trouble to add to its collection.

1.Thanks
2.Then in next elections people from new Poland would vote for Endecja from 1938.Well,it would be better.
3.Our Ukrainians praise Bandera.Partially becouse PIS never did anytching to stop that.And they would treat Lwów as ukrainian city now.The came goes for Lithuanians and Wilno.
PIS would be forced to either side with poles there,or UPA.
Knowing Kaczyński,he actually COULD gave Lwów to ukrainians.....
4.Well,polish minority could help USA sleep,but we need more.FDR wanted join the war from the start - so,Poland should not start war,or made it really short and victorious.

 

[bintananth]

The difference is that Rydz's choice for the post was political. Because of all the candidates for commander-in-chief after Pilsudski that Pilsudski left on the list, he was the last choice. Nevertheless, he got the job because, unlike the other candidates, he was mainly involved in military activities and avoided politics.

The others, yes, were better militarily, but had political ambitions, including the main contender Kazimierz Sosnowski, the most preferred option by Pilsudski as his successor. Rydz, on the other hand, had no political ambitions, hence Slawek and Moscicki unanimously chose him as Pilsudski's successor. Of course, over time he became interested in politics, although here one sees the influence of those around him rather than the person himself. They wanted to make him Pilsudski's successor and a person who, like him, united both the Sanation and the nation. Which, unfortunately, affected him himself.

Burnside is mostly remembered for his glorious facial hair (i.e.: "sideburns") and losing the Battle of Fredericksburg in December 1862.

Fredericksburg was one of those "this is stupid" battles which was only fought because of idiotic - but legal - orders.

A river crossing into a town that's defended by an entrenched army in the middle of December? Yeah, Burnside knew that was a pants-on-head retarted idea.

 

[Batrix2070]

2.Then in next elections people from new Poland would vote for Endecja from 1938.Well,it would be better.

But the problem lies in the fact that it does not exist, Endecia's base is the Prussian partition, completely replaced by the Third Republic. In the borderlands, the Left and PSL won. Besides, people won't simply flip to the people of the past, whose solutions correspond to the problems of another era.

PIS would be forced to either side with poles there,or UPA.
Knowing Kaczyński,he actually COULD gave Lwów to ukrainians.....

And that is why there is also Rydz, who, to put it lightly, is not among those who will see favorably to such ideas. He will say, fine, let Ukraine rise but east of the current borders. Lwów is already Polish, and the Free Ukraine will be in the will be east of it, back! east of Tarnopol.

 

[ATP]

But the problem lies in the fact that it does not exist, Endecia's base is the Prussian partition, completely replaced by the Third Republic. In the borderlands, the Left and PSL won. Besides, people won't simply flip to the people of the past, whose solutions correspond to the problems of another era.

And that is why there is also Rydz, who, to put it lightly, is not among those who will see favorably to such ideas. He will say, fine, let Ukraine rise but east of the current borders. Lwów is already Polish, and the Free Ukraine will be in the will be east of it, back! east of Tarnopol.

1.In Lwów and Wilno they were popular.And,modern poles who want deatch penalty would just support Konfederacja.
Which in this case could join with 1938 Endecja.
2.Unfortunatelly,Eksperyment Wołyński arleady happened,and Pilsudzki buddy,Henryk Józefski arleady hired ukrainians priests and teachers to turn locals into ukrainians.
Who in 1943 led ukrainians to murder polish woman and children.
I read Józefski memories - commies arrested him,but never tortured,and to his death he never undarstandt that HE KILLED THOSE POLES ON WOLYN.
So,in 1938 we arleady have masses of ukrainians who want our guts.Literally,becouse that was one of method torturing poles to death.

But,enough about sad things.
You should use Rafał Ziemkiewicz as commentator,becouse he is really nailing all mistakes of PO and PIS now,and would do the same in 1938.
And,there is lass named Andromeda who comment about war on Ukraine - could use her,too.

And send some polish fans to help Tolkien,and maybe Lewis,too.

 

[ATP]

I just read Carroll Quigley "The Anglo - American Establishment:From Rhodes to Cliveden" - american Historian who entire life officially laugh at conspiracy theories - but,after his death,that book proved that from 1891 till 1945 England was lead by secret society created by Cecil Rhodes to made England more powerfull and ultimatelly rule Earth.
All they did was destroing british empire and almost damning humanity with soviets.

Important thing - they first/1905-1914/ lead to war with Germany,but since 1919 till at least 1938 they helped germans in everything they wanted.
In 1938 it meaned dismantling Austria,Czech state,and later they want to do the same with Poland.

Which mean,that 2023 Poland eventually MUST fight England.Well,if England find somebody to die for them.

In that case,i hope that Poland would save Tolkien and Lewis!

 

[Batrix2070]

Kingdom of Romania
October 5, 1938
Bucharest

At the Royal Palace, located even in the center of the city, a historic moment was taking place. Well, maybe not so historic, but nevertheless important. The Kingdom of Romania was the first state to officially establish and recognize the Third Polish Republic, recognizing it as the legal and de facto successor to the Second Polish Republic.

The culmination of this moment, was the signing of a new trade and alliance agreement between Poland and Romania. In general, it echoed in fundamentals the same agreements between the Second Republic and the Kingdom of Romania, although there were some noticeable differences. One was the significant extension of the alliance from 5 years to more than 15 years, while of course maintaining the requirement to renew the alliance every required period.

Another thing was, of course, the trade agreement, which abolished all customs duties between the countries, introduced free traffic, and the only requirement was an identity document when crossing the border and staying in a foreign country. This was exactly what Poland had in its favor, which it wanted to achieve from the very beginning and as soon as possible, but not without having to bribe the Romanians in some way.

One of those things was, of course, a "modest" gift from the Polish government, of course, through President Duda, to King Charles II, who assumed dictatorial power just a few months ago.

The second, a very favorable deal for Romania, under which Poland buys all available Oil for the next 15 years, and buys out at a much higher price the one belonging to Germany during the same period. Of course, as part of the agreement, Poland pledged to invest in Romania, mainly in the area of infrastructure as well as primarily in the oil industry, although other areas of industry were also to get their share of investment. Daniel Obajtek, Chairman of Orlen, the Polish Oil Corporation, was rubbing his hands, just waiting for such an opportunity.

In general, Morawiecki had a plan to link Romania with Poland infrastructurally and economically, hence the need for investment he not only naturally understood but even supported, even if in the initial period the one to finance the whole thing was to be Poland.

The third and final major issue that very much tilted and accelerated the talks from months to barely weeks was a secret protocol guaranteeing a strong discount on Polish military equipment in both purchase and licensing. King Charles, who saw the Polish Army in person during an unofficial visit, as well as test a couple of Polish toys, was very enthusiastic about Polish weapons and made it clear that easy and quick access to the Polish arsenal could strongly accelerate talks.

There was no discussion in the Polish government, even if the arms industry in the initial period will suffer losses on the sale of arms to Romanians, the political as well as propaganda gains it will make in the long term will be much greater. Well, and above all, the Polish state will make up for its losses on military equipment in another part of the economy. Hence, after a brief discussion with PGZ President Sebastian Chwalek, such a discount was allocated. It was a sizable one, as it was as high as 45%, which was much more than the Romanians had expected.

So, in keeping with the given word, the talks accelerated and were formalized on October 5, barely two and a half weeks after the retreat.

Of course, this event, has sparked the interest of the media, primarily foreign media who have limited opportunities to find out what is happening in Poland. For obvious reasons, Polish borders are closed to everyone.

Hence, the only way to find out anything was to either get to the border with Poland and ask border guards or Polish police officers. For this reason, at each border crossing a spokesman from either the local Border Guard or Police Headquarters stood and answered.

Another way was to try to inquire of Polish ambassadors, although these usually dismissed journalists. In practice, the only ones who could answer something were those who happened to also be busy receiving delegations from Poland, most often the President, less often a minister.

Nevertheless, despite attempts, no journalist has managed to meet personally with the Polish President or the Polish Foreign Minister. It was not successful until now.

King Charles, with a practiced smile, cordiality and general etiquette, personally signed contracts in front of photographers and journalists. Normally this was not practiced, but the Polish side's wish was just that. They just wanted to start with Romania, to introduce themselves to the wider world from their best side.

He understood this need, this future Poland was something different, completely foreign. Hence, he forgave the affront and gaffe on the part of President Duda that he arrived in Romania dressed only in a suit. In their world, the frock coat had fallen out of fashion as he was to find out during his unofficial visit to Poland.

Although he was surprised that the Poles who had hurried him so far, as soon as the agreement was approved in its current form, suddenly slowed down. They said they had to prepare something called television, or at least something related to television so that Poles could see it in their homes as well. Hence they first had to prepare, download the necessary equipment as well as check the quality of the signal so that the current situation could be viewed live. The latter was of great interest to him, that is, it is possible to make the situation recorded on camera in another part of the world, be shown as in a theater a few hundred kilometers away in someone's home?

Once it was confirmed that they could and that the equipment was ready, they were finally able to begin. Fortunately, the time spent on preparations allowed any reporters to be invited to Romania. News of Poland magically going back in time became the hottest news in the world, easily pushing back the Sudetenland issue.

Speaking of the Sudetenland, he was pleased that this particular Polish government, does not have a negative attitude toward Czechoslovakia and does not look at the Czechs as meat from which to snatch a piece for itself. Moreover, in view of the disturbing silence in the face of Polish attempts at an agreement, he was asked by Duda to be an intermediary. He welcomed the request; as soon as the show is over for the world, he will go to the Czech Republic in an attempt to influence Benesh.

Fortunately, he doesn't have to get used to a new ambassador like in the case of Poland where the incumbent Richard Franasovic, incidentally he became ambassador this year, was replaced by a certain Cosmin Onisii. Only the fact that he is forthcoming and understands how the current Poland works makes him stay. Although he did send him an aide to help him implement the current Romania. Of course, the Embassy itself needs a few changes, such as removing the inscriptions Republic and replacing them with Kingdom. When he heard what happened, it made his hair stand on end.

What was about to happen was a veritable disaster for Romania, the farther away from damned Germany the better. Of course, he couldn't help but be pleased that despite everything, the Romanians respected his son and his son lived to see a free Romania. Although he wasn't happy that they approached him a little, less positively. As well as some information about what happened to him a few years later, it sharpened him to certain personalities.

Unfortunately, his hands were somewhat tied, hence he was forced to ask Duda for help in solving the Iron Guard problem. He argued that the Iron Guard is heavily fueled by Berlin and poses a threat to Polish-Romanian relations and, according to history, the Guards managed to take over, so if Duda wants to keep the agreements alive, he must help him.

Duda only smiled then and said, "We understand and are already working on it. Your request can only speed up our work."

That froze him, are they working on it? That is, what are they doing? They were already plotting how to get rid of an unfavorable force before they met? Or are they simply analyzing Romanian history and just looking for forces they can help to prevent the Guards from taking over?

Whatever the reason, time is ticking and counting down, and he is left praying to God that the Poles will be able to help him.

He looked over at Duda, who was signing the agreements with his uncharacteristic smile, before the question-and-answer round from journalists was about to begin.

Duda assured him that he was taking most of the answers, which was not necessary. Karol knows how to deal with journalists, although he is well aware that the main person in the show will be the Polish president. Incidentally, quite a nice and friendly man who is hard not to like.

This was actually evident in the conversations, a good portion of which were conducted personally by the President with Karol. Despite, in fact, strongly different styles of being as well as the time separating them, they were able to find a common language.

Which facilitated the agreement and led very quickly, without too much fuss, to the current situation.

"Edmund Blair, The Times." introduced himself to the first journalist asking the question,Question for Your Highness, how do you assess the new Polish government?"

Charles, paused for a moment before calmly replying, "Very positively, I express the hope that the government of His Majesty King George VI, like Romania will quickly recognize the change and establish permanent contacts with Poland."

"Good," replied Blair, somewhat disappointed by the lack of details, but decided it was better to talk to the Polish President. After all, each journalist was given permission to ask three questions.

"A question for President Duda, this unusual event of taking back all of Poland like in Wells' books has overshadowed the row over the Sudetenland. What is Poland's attitude to German claims about Czechoslovakia, and will Poland try to take back Zaolzie from the Czechs?"

Duda giggled slightly; after all, it was two questions in one, nevertheless, in heavily droned but understandable English, he replied.

"The Government of the Third Republic of Poland expresses its negative attitude towards attempts to seize indigenous Czech lands, as well as any attempts to force the government of Czechoslovakia to relinquish these lands. We are against any acts of imperialism or agreements over the heads of the weak. Therefore, we inform you that we are on the side of Czechoslovakia in this matter, and we will not accept any other response from Hitler's Germany than the relinquishment of its claims and the cessation of its aggressive policy toward its neighbors. In the case of Zaolzie, Poland will not attempt to take it from Czech hands."

"What if Adolf Hitler marches on Prague militarily?" asked Blair.

"Then, let him know that Poland is not afraid of war and, having learned from past experience, which fortunately will not happen in this world, will strive to overthrow the Nazi regime by all means. We will stand on the side of Czechoslovakia and the Polish Army will act as an ally of the Czechoslovak Army."

"Okay, thank you for your answer." replied the journalist who immediately took notes of the Polish President's statement along with others in the room. It was a sensation, Poland is threatening Hitler with war! Poland is ready to overthrow Hitler! People will buy up like hot rolls.

Then a man of young age with a bass heavy voice, light hair and blue eyes stepped up. He looked like a racial Aryan from Nazi propaganda posters. Dressed in a beige coat over a solid-looking suit, he did not part with his notebook.

"Question to President Duda" one could sense the contempt with which he uttered these words, everyone in the room had the feeling that he wanted to say something completely different, "What do you mean by a Poland taught by past experience and which will not happen here fortunately will seek to overthrow the Nazi regime by all means? Do you realize how this sounds? By what right do you want to do that?"

Duda furrowed his brow, from his accent and demeanor he concluded who he was, but nevertheless decided to ask. "May I know who I'm dealing with?"

"I apologize, for my lack of tact." apologized the journalist, in a strongly false tone that even the biggest idiot would catch that he was not apologizing. "My name is Erich Bauer, I am a journalist with Völkischer Beobachter, the chief newspaper of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. I was outraged by your statement, therefore, on behalf of myself, the German people and Adolf Hitler, so I ask where did you get the gall to make direct threats toward the Third Reich?"

Duda slowly nodded his head before replying, "Okay, starting from the end, if you will. By what right do we want to do this? From the law of Christian morality, thanks to which Europe is, what it is and is a role model for the rest of the world. From the law that you Germans, in your hubris, rejected and, had it not been for us showing up here, would have taken to its logical end. Namely, we do not believe that the mass murder of any population is justified, for any motive, however beautifully presented. And it just so happens that this is what happened, in the next seven years, the Third German Reich will murder millions of human beings, arguing this with pseudo-scientific motives of purifying the human race of inferior beings. To their misfortune, it was on the territory of Poland that they left an infamous legacy, the tool with which they did this. That is, the death factories, called concentration camps for disguise. Those who want can come and see for themselves, please write down such names as Auschwitz, Majdanek, Bełzec, Treblinka, Sobibór and Chełmno. As soon as the issue with our status is normalized, please come and see for yourself what the Germans have built. Especially come, if you are given the opportunity, of course."

The room fell into a sepulchral silence, really sepulchral, the kind that exists in an empty tomb. Death factories? And as many as six at once? All of them in Poland? Why? How? This was now an object of puzzlement; even the least moral journalists, who see this as a perfect sensation, were alarmed to say the least. Even King Charles, who was somewhat warned by the ambassador as to the future, was surprised. Especially since Duda, with this speech, strangely spoke with extreme fluency and clarity. His pouting had disappeared.

Duda knew how it sounded, they might not believe him and want to ask the question why exactly in Poland? Therefore, he continued, "Pulling my answer, as well as answering some obvious question, why are they in Poland? The answer is simple, Poland lost its heroic but impossible without the support of the Allies, the campaign in its defense by which its lands became the spoils of Germany, which unceremoniously and unlawfully, even the most primitive and backward law of war seized the lands for itself and sought to wipe Poland off the maps, at the same time, not anticipating defeat, established on its lands the main center of extermination. Why here? Because this is where most of the Jews were and Poland is in the center of Europe, so there is also a logistical advantage. And note that I said was. Thanks to German activity, almost all Polish Jews were exterminated. And those who survived, emigrated to Israel, the free Jewish state in Palestine. Barely a few thousand, live in Poland today of which some are simply employees of the Israeli embassy. Therefore, to answer your second question, yes I know how it sounds and it is supposed to sound like that."

The last words, resounded with renewed force. For some reason, it seemed to everyone that Bauer had diminished in his eyes and Duda had grown. A Polish strongman and a backward dwarf of Germanness, that's how to put it.
This was a novelty; everyone knew about the considerable difference of opinion between Poland and Germany. That for a few years, Polish-German relations had become friendly they also knew. But it was never the case that it was the Pole who put himself above the German and presented the latter as a worthless but bloodthirsty mongrel who should be put down and in whom there is nothing good.

"And in concluding my answer," Duda continued, "it is the experience of the bootiness, arrogance and hatred on the part of Germany and the Germans themselves that has taught us that they are dangerous. Moreover, we also know that any agreements with Hitler, if the latter does not have a gun to his head, are worth less than the paper on which they are written. For had it not been for our appearance, there would have been the disgraceful Munich Conference, where the countries that were supposed to guard the post-World War I order pounced on it and allowed it to be broken further. Handing over, to the world's doom, the Sudetenland to the Germans with the promise that the latter would hold back further. This never happened, barely a few months later, the Germans will brazenly seize Memel, also known as Klaipeda in Lithuania. They would then annex what was left of Czechoslovakia and then go to war with Poland. A war they could not win, fortunately for the whole world. Therefore, we will seek to overthrow the aggressive regime by all means, including preventive war and an imposed occupation government throughout Germany for denazification."

"And how will Hitler be overthrown or also stopped by the Germans themselves, with the Nazi party remaining in power?" a man with distinctive glasses and an American accent spoke up.

"If, this government is content with the current territory, maybe even with the power of Hitler who is scared to stop, although I doubt it. That will leave the Germans alone." Duda replied.

"Thank you for your response and I apologize for interjecting without rearranging. My name is Clark Kent and I represent the Daily Star."

Duda was amazed to hear the name and the first name. He had the impression that he had heard them somewhere. "No problem, do you have any more questions? For Bauer has exhausted his pool."

"Yes," replied Kent quickly and slightly nervously, "what can average Americans expect from the government of Poland?"
Duda smiled before starting his answer. "We hope ...

 

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PKN Orlen - More specifically, Polish Oil Company Orlen Joint Stock Company, a Polish multibranch corporation, best known according to its name for its network of gas stations and refineries. Although it has gas, biofuels, electricity and heat production, fertilizer production, and exploration and exploitation in all forms of gas and oil. It is one of the largest Polish corporations, which, although state-owned, remains a joint-stock company with shares held by private individuals. It is the largest corporation of its kind in Central and Eastern Europe, although now in this world it is probably the largest in the world or will become so within 10 years.

PGZ - Polska Grupa Zbrojeniowa, a Polish armaments concern. It is within it, that all weapons production and development facilities from every branch are subordinated. Well, at least most of them, although in this world due to the disappearance of foreign owners, except for a few private companies in Polish hands, they are back owned by PGZ so de facto it has them all in its hands. It was established in 2013 as a way to consolidate the entire arms industry for better management.

KOP - Korpus Ochrony Pogranicza (eng.Border Protection Corps) a Polish military formation created in 1924 to protect the eastern border of the Second Republic from the penetration of agents, terrorists and compact armed sabotage units transferred by Soviet special services from the USSR to the territory of the Second Republic. During the state of war, the function of the KOP was to come to an end, and its units were to supply the divisions and subdivisions of the Polish Army in line, according to the mobilization plan.

HSW - Huta Stalowa Wola (Steelworks Steelwill) a Polish machinery and armaments company established as part of the Central Industrial District northwest of the city of Nisko, near the village of Plawo - now Stalowa Wola. One of the most modern and best plants of the Polish defense industry.

Zakłady Mechaniczne "Bumar-Łabędy" SA - Polish armaments company based in Gliwice in the Łabędy district near the Gliwice Canal. It was established on the basis of an abandoned steel plant and a German factory, of course, after the Soviets had previously deported all the contents to themselves. Manufacturer of all armored equipment of Poland after World War II. It was here that the T-34-85, T-54 and T-55 were produced and modernized along with its T-55 Merida modernization. Well, and it was here that the Polish T-72 and PT-91 were created. Unfortunately, the period of capitalism combined with incompetence and even simple greed and the omnipotence of the labor union led the plant to its present state. A severely deplorable state where the only real competencies are building new T-72s and repairing on our own the Leopard 2. (In the latter it is a necessity, because many spare parts for our Leo we had to produce on our own because they simply do not exist.)

Orange (in story Orange Telekomunikacja Polska) - the Polish branch of the French company Orange (which, incidentally, is owned by France Telecon, a state-owned French company), is the largest mobile operator in Poland and one of the largest Internet providers in Poland. It is the privatized and sold former state-owned company Telekomunikacja Polska which was nationalized as a Private State Treasury Company after the Event. It has partially reverted to its old name, although the Orange brand has remained as already solidly etched in the minds of customers.

 

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PKN Orlen - More specifically, Polish Oil Company Orlen Joint Stock Company, a Polish multibranch corporation, best known according to its name for its network of gas stations and refineries. Although it has gas, biofuels, electricity and heat production, fertilizer production, and exploration and exploitation in all forms of gas and oil. It is one of the largest Polish corporations, which, although state-owned, remains a joint-stock company with shares held by private individuals. It is the largest corporation of its kind in Central and Eastern Europe, although now in this world it is probably the largest in the world or will become so within 10 years.

PGZ - Polska Grupa Zbrojeniowa, a Polish armaments concern. It is within it, that all weapons production and development facilities from every branch are subordinated. Well, at least most of them, although in this world due to the disappearance of foreign owners, except for a few private companies in Polish hands, they are back owned by PGZ so de facto it has them all in its hands. It was established in 2013 as a way to consolidate the entire arms industry for better management.

Is oil from Romania enough for Poland ? we have our own oilfields,later taken by soviets.
Romania - they wanted stronger Alliance in 1939 when they thought,that they could be next target.
Czech - Benesz was soviet puppet,you could not cooperate with him.But his arly planned to remove him,if Poland agree to Alliance.Could be done here,too.
Zaolzie - mostly poles lived there,persecuted by Czech.But,i quess it is OK for PIS.They do not care about poles on Lithuania or Ukraine now.
PGZ - they could not produce enough fpr prolonged war.So,we need quick victory.Attacking only in night?

Germany - declaring war on them without attacking is stupid.What would they do now,if both germans and soviets attack them?

Most important - brits are scheming to gave both Czech and Poland to germans.Why not publish it,too?
I mean book of Carroll Quigley "The Anglo-american Establischment"

P.S Happy Easter !

 

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Is oil from Romania enough for Poland ?

Nope, Poland's economy needs about 20 million tons of oil a year. Romania is not enough and, after all, you have to remember that you don't put all your eggs in one basket.

we have our own oilfields,

Which, at current production levels, yields a staggering nearly two million tons. And I'm talking about both our modern deposits and those from the Borderlands. And those from the Borderlands need to be upgraded, buy out all the foreign companies to finish what the Second Republic didn't do, which is to take control of the extraction of oil there.

Czech - Benesz was soviet puppet,you could not cooperate with him.But his arly planned to remove him,if Poland agree to Alliance.Could be done here,too.

Therefore, Charles will mediate, and as Benesh will continue to vulture and look a gift horse in the teeth. This will end very badly, because let's be honest, if someone in his government saw him let such an opportunity pass by, he would do everything to get rid of this retard.

PGZ - they could not produce enough fpr prolonged war.

Because they were not getting such orders? You know, these companies have to make a living from something, you don't maintain a line if you don't need it. The Ministry of Defense didn't order the right quantities, then PGZ didn't produce them. When it started to order then PGZ started to increase.

So,we need quick victory

Rather, war with almost anyone except the Soviets will be a quick victory.
The Bolsheviks are only defended by the terrain the Polish Army has to traverse.

Germany - declaring war on them without attacking is stupid.

And who said anything about attacking without declaring war?

What would they do now,if both germans and soviets attack them?

It was earlier, a rumble to the German and then the whole force to the Soviets.

Why not publish it,too?

Not to reveal the cards? You know, in such a situation you should play a double that you do not know whose dirt. To later pull out this knowledge like an ace from your sleeve.

 

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Nope, Poland's economy needs about 20 million tons of oil a year. Romania is not enough and, after all, you have to remember that you don't put all your eggs in one basket.

Which, at current production levels, yields a staggering nearly two million tons. And I'm talking about both our modern deposits and those from the Borderlands. And those from the Borderlands need to be upgraded, buy out all the foreign companies to finish what the Second Republic didn't do, which is to take control of the extraction of oil there.

Therefore, Charles will mediate, and as Benesh will continue to vulture and look a gift horse in the teeth. This will end very badly, because let's be honest, if someone in his government saw him let such an opportunity pass by, he would do everything to get rid of this retard.

Because they were not getting such orders? You know, these companies have to make a living from something, you don't maintain a line if you don't need it. The Ministry of Defense didn't order the right quantities, then PGZ didn't produce them. When it started to order then PGZ started to increase.

Rather, war with almost anyone except the Soviets will be a quick victory.
The Bolsheviks are only defended by the terrain the Polish Army has to traverse.

And who said anything about attacking without declaring war?

It was earlier, a rumble to the German and then the whole force to the Soviets.

Not to reveal the cards? You know, in such a situation you should play a double that you do not know whose dirt. To later pull out this knowledge like an ace from your sleeve.

1&2 - so,we either take Baku,or made oil from coal.
3.Czech military wanted remove him.
4.Only to some level.They could made 50 Krabs per year,but no more.
5.We have only 4 modern dyvisions.
6.OK
7.Then we could not take prisoners,but mass kill enemy soldiers with thermobaric warheads.Or let them go home.
8.Seems logical.