Battletech Story Brainstorming

Knowledgeispower

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Slight problem with that. The entirety of the Canopian, Outworlder, and Taurian warship fleets barring all of two Taurian ships died to the SLDF duirng the Periphery uprising and the SLDF shot up all the yards as they left to go fight amaris. And the great houses fleets about tripled in active size between the Coup and 2770 and yet more ships were being built or brought out of mothballs
 
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Bear Ribs

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Slight problem with that. The entirety of the Canopian, Outworlder, and Taurian fleets barring all of two Taurian ships died to the SLDF duirng the Periphery uprising and the SLDF shot up all the yards as they left to go fight amaris. And the great houses fleets about tripled in active size between the Coup and 2770 and yet more ships were being built or brought out of mothballs
But if the SLDF bogged down faster due to the Periphery being far better equipped, they wouldn't have time to trample the entire periphery fleets and all their shipyards before Amaris made his move, and Kerensky in this TL instead retreated from them to preserve as much firepower as he could to retake Terra.
 

Knowledgeispower

Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
But if the SLDF bogged down faster due to the Periphery being far better equipped, they wouldn't have time to trample the entire periphery fleets and all their shipyards before Amaris made his move, and Kerensky in this TL instead retreated from them to preserve as much firepower as he could to retake Terra.
Odds are then that the Great Houses don't pass the armaments limitations of 2650 if the Periphery is allowed to have decently sized armed forces. Which means they have a lot more firepower than anything the Periphery could have.
 

Bear Ribs

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Odds are then that the Great Houses don't pass the armaments limitations of 2650 if the Periphery is allowed to have decently sized armed forces. Which means they have a lot more firepower than anything the Periphery could have.
Not after they get shot up trying to beat the CASPAR fleets they won't. That was a more powerful navy that everybody else combined that just didn't come online.
 

bullethead

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Kind of a crackish idea spawned from re-reading @Harlock's A Fighting Chance Babylon 5 story:
A chunk of the Minbari fleet from a Babylon 5 AU where things are going worse than in canon gets yeeted into BattleTech universe by the Vorlons, appearing in orbit of Terra seconds before Amaris blows Richard Cameron's head off.

The SLDF SDS operators get it online right before Amaris' goons come in, managing to take out a few Minbari ships through sheer weight of fire before the rest slaughter their way out of the system. Unity City gets blown apart on the way out, as the Minbari notice the various RWR ships in orbit moving to cover the city. The SLS Abyss barely makes it out of the vicinity in time, rendezvousing with the SLS Tripitz as planned.

The Minbari eventually realize that they're not in their own universe and decide to exit the Inner Sphere via the Draconis Combine, doing as much damage as possible to prevent pursuit. They head into the Deep Periphery as Star League loyalists on Terra manage to get a message out to General Kerensky that Terra has been attacked by aliens...
 

The Whispering Monk

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...s69+-9+econds before Amaris blows Richard Cameron's head off.

The SLDF SDS operators get it online right before Amaris' goons come in, managing to take out a few Minbari ships through sheer weight of fire before the rest slaughter their way out of the system.

The Minbari eventually realize that they're not in their own universe and decide to exit the Inner Sphere via the Draconis Combine, doing as much damage as possible to prevent pursuit. They head into the Deep Periphery as Star League loyalists on Terra manage to get a message out to General Kerensky that Terra has been attacked by aliens...

Umm...IS collapses in hysteria...governments enact martial law...some fall due to levels of stupidity...depending on the damage done to the DC, it either fragments or leadership brings it together into a tighter core. Everyone scrambles for any Minbari salvage to try and figure out what they are dealing with and fighting breaks out over the bits of salvage b/c everyone wants to make sure they are protected.

Kerensky sees this going on and proceeds to enact his exodus b/c he can see the writing on the wall and doesn't want to have his forces take part in the fighting. Kerensky holds to the ideal that the SLDF should protect the IS. So his forces follow the Minbari forces out of the IS and find the Cluster where they colonize and restructure themselves in an effort to create a buffer zone between the IS and wherever the Minbari ended up.

Three centuries go by. IS goes crappy b/c...well, this IS BattleTech (TM) :p

THEN the renewed Minbari Forces appear in the Sol System, which panics and activates all their defenses...which proceed to hit nothing. Then the Minbari destroy every piece of infrastructure in the system and eradicate all human life in the system. Then they Minbari leave.

Months later, the Exodus forces (clans or whatnot) hear about this and martial all their forces to rescue the IS. However, they are 300 years removed from society and wherever they come in, Kerensky's kin are seen as more invaders and are promptly attacked at every turn. Shit goes south with the Minbari randomly appearing once in a while to shoot Comstar's stuff and leave b/c they were the ones that shot at them at Sol (and I don't like Comstar). IS powers turn into paranoid protectorates. Comstar is broken, HPG network degrades, cats and dogs...living together. Mass hysteria!!
 

bullethead

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Umm...IS collapses in hysteria...governments enact martial law...some fall due to levels of stupidity...depending on the damage done to the DC, it either fragments or leadership brings it together into a tighter core. Everyone scrambles for any Minbari salvage to try and figure out what they are dealing with and fighting breaks out over the bits of salvage b/c everyone wants to make sure they are protected.
Mmm... I don't think that's realistic.

Oh sure, there's going to be some stupidity - the Sandovals aren't going to miss an opportunity to take worlds from the Combine and the Lyrans are always for screwing over the Combine, but I don't think IS would implode.

How much Minbari salvage would be available would depend on how many SDS equipped systems they try to take on, and whether Amaris' people are working on a schedule vs waiting for a signal from the guy. Terra would be the only guaranteed source in the story, especially since the main reason the Minbari took any loses is because they showed up in orbit of the heavily fortified capital planet of an interstellar nation. BT ships are actually worse than B5 human ships in many areas, so the odds of them being able to break Minbari stealth are low to nonexistent.

Kerensky may not be the smartest dude in the Sphere, but even he would know that staying in a weakened Hegemony has a better chance of paying off than flying off on the same path as the aliens that near effortlessly kicked tons of ass. Plus, in this scenario, he hasn't spent over a decade fighting a grinding war to preserve the Star League, only to see the House Lords decide to fuck it all up. Staying in the Hegemony would be preserving the League in his mind... and if it means the SLDF has an overwhelming advantage over the Great Houses, that might not be a bad thing in his book.

The thing that would probably determine how much of a destabilizing event this would be is whether or not the Minbari find out exactly how much the rest of the IS hates the Combine, and deliberately attacks Luthien...
 

namar13766

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My idea for an AU, from a couple of tribbles by Drakensis.

During the Davion Civil War, the Outer March decides to break away from the Federated Suns, with the Prince on Filtvet feeling that his worlds are no longer receiving any benefits from House Davion, while all factions are demanding resources from him.

Without enough heavy industry of their own, House Esteban establishes trading ties with the Taurians, the United Hindu Collective, and the Outworlds Alliance. After winning, Alexander Davion negotiates a peaceful secession of the Outer March, as it was an overall drain on the FedSuns, and he is exhausted by having to defeat the other Marches. The region becomes a refuge for many unhappy with the stronger grip House Davion has over the Suns.

Taurian industries, with a much larger market to work with, enter a decades long boom, particularly in terms of military production. Looking outwards, they establish new colonies, expanding towards what would be the Tortuga Dominions and the Aurigan Coalition in OTL.

As the Star League comes together, the prospect of bringing the Periphery in by force was raised and narrowly turned down. The projected expense was deemed to be directly against the principle of reducing the drain of constant military expenses. And besides, House Amaris was pro-Star League and probably only needed a little more time and a comparatively trivial financial investment to sway the Rim Worlds Republic into joining the Star League. One at a time, the other states would surely follow through.

The HAF wasn't entirely folded into the SLDF, but did hand control of their border worlds over to the SLDF First Army, which also took over all other member-state world garrison posts within one jump of the Hegemony. Gradually five further armies expanded out to similarly control both sides of all the Star League's internal borders. This didn't keep the SLDF entirely out action - skirmishes between 'bandits' along the borders took a while to die down. As this progressed, the process freed the House Armies to secure their own interiors, their periphery borders and to scale back to 'peace-time' strength.

As the economy slowly stabilized, the Star League looked for new frontiers and found them in the periphery: new colony regions were established outside the Federated Suns, Free Worlds League and Draconis Combine and opened to colonists from anywhere in the Star League. This also contributed to isolating the periphery realms from the rest of the Inner Sphere. As a result, when Gregory Amaris requested military assistance against dissidents in the Rim Worlds Republic, shortly before the end of the century, it was years before the other Periphery states were able to confirm that Star League supplies and military advisors were propping up Amaris and funding his employment of mercenaries and 'mercenaries' drawn from House armies eager to blood a new generation of young soldiers.

The result was all but inevitable: Gregory Amaris managed to live long enough to sign the admission of the Rim Worlds Republic to the Star League, although an assassin saw that it was his son who became the seventh member of the Star League Council. The SLDF's 7th Army (and associated fleet) secured the border between Lyran Commonwealth and Rim Worlds Republic - and unofficially provided a strong arm for the still shaky House Amaris.

Seeing the writing on the wall, the remaining Periphery realms realized that any internal or external conflict could be used to justify Star League intervention. Further, they were increasingly surrounded. Any spark along their borders could lead to encroachment. They forced their economies into overdrive to try to expand their own borders and increase their economic might to potentially resist SLDF invasions. In the Outworlds the weak government teetered on the edge of breakdown under the pressure of this, kept from collapse only by the outside threat.

And in the new colonial regions, colonists from rival member-states began to quarrel, leading to reaction forces from the SLDF and nearby houses to step in.

After forty years, the Star League is stronger than ever... and the peace that it promised is more fragile as well.
 

namar13766

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@Doomsought came up with a good AU over on QQ.
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The SLDF is held back by the Taurians, sowing doubts as to their effectiveness. Furlough seeking some face saving attempts to arrest the Pitcairn Legions in the OWA, but the arrest turns into a fire fight which escalates quickly. SLDF forces are locally outnumbered and they ask for orbital fire support- the resulting warship battle makes Alexander Davion demand Ian Cameron give him Furlough's head on a silver platter, and he so much as receives Furlough's head on a sterling silver platter instead then it will be war.

This shit show causes Ian to recall Furlough to terra while he tries to deescalate the situation with the Federated Suns. The disruption to supply lines from the Fed Suns blocking SLDF traffic combined with having their commanding officers recalled to Terra puts SLDF forces into disarray, allowing the Taurians to score a stunning victory further humiliating the SLDF. This causes the Combine to believe that the SLDF is a paper tiger and Kurita prepares for an invasion into the Terran hegemony.

Meanwhile the Capellans, unaware of the Combine's treachery, attempt incite an escalation of conflict between the SLDF and the Federated Suns so they can invade with the backing of the Terran Hegemony. Falsified reports showing the Federated Suns seizing SLDF bases and personnel successfully cause SLDF units to mount rescue operations, ruining all negotiations and inciting war. Within a few months, SLDF forces on the Taurian border are annihilated.

Kuritan forces mask their invasion as movements to relieve and support SLDF forces until the last moment, and then attack with complete surprise.

Viola Steiner is captured by the Rim World Republic do to SLDF forces she was fighting beside suddenly getting recalled to fight the Combine without her being briefed. This causes the Lyran situation to become volatile quickly, with half the nobility calling for them to leave the Star League for the betrayal and feeling sick, and the other half trying to replace the Steiners with themselves.

Seeing half the Star League fall apart within only a few years, Marion Marik finds himself having cold feet on the whole endeavor, and Ian's increasing political strong-arming isn't helping the matter.

Ian becomes increasingly desperate as his dream falls apart around him and tensions in the SLDF (read: De-Facto Hegemony Armed Forces) are boiling over because Hegemony officers are trying to force member states soldiers to fire on their own troops. The SLDF itself fractures. The Star League dies early and a Second Age of War begins, made worse due to the rescinded Ares Conventions.
 

ShadowArxxy

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Honestly, without the mother doctrine lostech just does not happen or at least is a localized phenomena.

The Mother Doctrine wouldn't be a problem if everyone else in the Inner Sphere wasn't a leech who would rather just use Terran Hegemony tech than invent anything themselves. The Periphery isn't to blame because the Star League *actively destroyed* their independent technology base in order to *force* dependence on Hegemony tech. To be blunt, the Battletech verse would have been a better place had the Hegemony actually stood firm and maintained strong domination over the Great Parasites rather than allowing them any pretense of equality. The Clans calling them "Scavenger Lords" was completely accurate.

The huge practical and moral difference between the Great Houses and the Periphery powers were that the Great Houses chose dependence out of greed and laziness, whereas the Periphery Powers had dependence forced on them at literal Battlemech-point by the Great Houses.
 
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Doomsought

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The Mother Doctrine wouldn't be a problem if everyone else in the Inner Sphere wasn't a leech who would rather just use Terran Hegemony tech than invent anything themselves.
I'm pretty sure the copyright in perpetuity in BTech was part of the mother doctrine. That is one of the things that really killed research.
 

ShadowArxxy

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I'm pretty sure the copyright in perpetuity in BTech was part of the mother doctrine. That is one of the things that really kille bud research.

No, it wasn't. The Mother Doctrine was simply the Terran Hegemony establishing export restrictions on sensitive military and dual-use technology -- restrictions which I will point out are in fact *far less strict* than the ones that the United States has had for many decades. Prior to this, even government-sponsored military research was widely exported to nations that were only nominally not hostile to the Hegemony, a policy of complete madness.

The name of the doctrine makes it *sound like* the Hegemony was actively trying to make the rest of the Inner Sphere dependent on it, but that is not the case -- the Great Houses did that to themselves because they were literally too lazy and greedy to allow money to be spent on "redundant" infrastructure. They are basically taking the behavior of the Cold War and modern era EU (minus France), which has done the exact same thing of making itself semi-dependent on the US to do all the R&D heavy lifting -- but turning it up to 11.
 

namar13766

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How does this look for a more balkanized Inner Sphere?


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The Terran Free Republic (TFR) formed in the wake of the Terran Alliance (TA) collapse following the Outer Reaches Rebellion. When House Cameron formed the Terran Hegemony (TH), there were many who didn't like the way it was shaping up. These people would go on the form the Terran Free Republic.

With neither nation compatible with the other, war was the only outcome. The war started in 2321, when the TFR laid claim to Terra and the Hegemony, and the TH responded in kind. By 2351, the war was still inconclusive, and while the TFR had yet to seize Terra, they had managed to savage the Hegemony Armed Forces.

It was a stalemate that resulted in an uneasy peace, spurred on by the growing strength of the neighboring states. When the Draconis Combine and Lyran Alliance launched raids into the Terran Core (the space around Earth) the two former enemies became suspicious allies.

When the invasions ended and the to exhausted nations turned their gaze once more upon each other, the TH had a plan to reduce the TFR's power. They instigated a separatist movement in the Sirius, Procyon, and Graham systems. Since these worlds had once belonged to the TFR and didn't want to be part of the TH, they became the Sirian Concordance (adding Pollux as well).

The TH followed suit by setting up the Northwind Hold, the Duchy of Small, and the Zosma Protectorate. By the time the TFR realized what was happening, it was too late. However, this organized effort would not be a flawless process for the TH.

As a result of the support for secession of former TFR worlds, many TH worlds decided they wanted out as well, forming the Covenant Worlds, Shiloh Alliance, Federation of Skye, and Galatean League. Unable to handle so many systems leaving all at once, the TH was cut to size.

TFR leaders then proposed a new league to keep outside invaders from attacking the now weakened core (and prevent the TH from trying to annex the separatists. Unable to refuse, the TH agreed and the 1st Star League was formed.

When the Star League formed, it proceeded to conquer all the nations that refused to join willingly in a much larger and more scattered Reunification War. Over the next 200 years the Star League kept peace as best able, but when tensions between the TH and TFR began to rise again, it began to lose stability.

First the Federated Suns, then the Draconis Combine erupted into civil war, with the Federation of Varney and Alliance of Galedon attempting to break away. With the Star League Defense Force attempting to quell the unrest, the League was caught unprepared when the Federation of Skye's House Kelswa began a succession crisis that saw it shatter almost entirely.

The economic and political aftershocks of these events spread unrest and civil disobedience across the League, which many nations took advantage of. At this point it became clear that a cabal of nobles, led by Stefen Amaris of the Rim World's Republic, were actively trying to usurp the League by distracting it's defenses in these civil wars.

However, the plan began to back fire as it became clear that many smaller nations were tired of League oppression, and more fractures occurred. Like a window of glass, once a crack starts it can only spread further.

With the SLDF being annihilated on all fronts and even the cabal of nobles losing more and more power, the High Lord of the Star League, Richard Cameron was murdered by Stefen Amaris. This led the Terran Free Republic to invade Terra, where they tried to capture Amaris, only to get attacked by the remaining SLDF.

With the centralized government beheaded, all hell broke loose and in 2780, what would be called the Great Fracturing War raged across the Sphere. By 2866, many nations, now tired of war, worked to bring peace.

At that point, the same amount of technological loss as the first two Succession Wars had taken place, and the remaining SLDF had fled and created the Clans.

For the next century, the 3rd Succession War's small border and brushfire wars would occur until the Signing of the 2nd Ares Conventions, which would bring a new era of peace. In the center a new Star League began to form from the smaller nations in the core.

However, tensions remained high since no conclusive victories were had by any nations. By 3025, the maps is as it looks now.
 

Bear Ribs

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I like the idea behind the map but I fear balkanizing it quite that much will just lead to 90% of the nations being on the map and getting no real references from the writers and no development whatsoever.

I mean from the beginning it seems like nobody has ever remembered that the Free Worlds League exists, and the clans outside of maybe five of them have a few pages each while only the big-name important clans like Wolf and Jade Falcon got their own sourcebooks.
 

bullethead

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I think that map is probably balkanized a bit too much for it to be viable as a wargame setting, but you could probably unite some of those smaller blobs into medium sized ones and expand the setting to one to two dozen really good factions.

If you wanted to support a setting that's fractured that badly, you'll need to toss a shitton of writers and designers at it.
 

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