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Free-Stater 101

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Back to complaining about what the Democrats are doing like nothing ever happened. What a politician.
Mitch McConnell may not be a glorious ideologue who is revolutionary in his beliefs in anyway, but his uses have never been called into question. He can't overturn the election, but he can complain about the stupidity of Biden in a rather effective manner.
 

Terthna

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Mitch McConnell may not be a glorious ideologue who is revolutionary in his beliefs, but his uses have never been called into question, he can't overturn the election, but he can complain about the stupidity of Biden in a rather effective manner.
Oh I'll call his "use" into question anytime you want; the man is the epitome of everything wrong with the "Republicans". Namely, the fact that they're just controlled opposition. Sure he'll complain about what they're doing, but that's it; he has no intention of ever doing anything about it, and neither do the rest of the "Republican" establishment. You could hand him the means to overturn the election results on a silver platter, and he would just spit in your face; he wanted Trump to lose.
 

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Oh I'll call his "use" into question anytime you want; the man is the epitome of everything wrong with the "Republicans". Namely, the fact that they're just controlled opposition. Sure he'll complain about what they're doing, but that's it; he has no intention of ever doing anything about, and neither do the rest of the "Republican" establishment. You could hand him the means to overturn the election results on a silver platter, and he would just spit in your face.
Thate a matter of opinion, we are all restrained by unspoken rules and norms, being a politician is no different in that regard, and ultimately, that's a trap they all fall into universally as even Trump didn't plow forward with everything he wanted in an unrestrained fashion.

Like I said, he is a politician, and most definitely not a revolutionary, but as far as realpolitik goes he has legitimately done all that can be expected of him within the existing power structure of what he's been given without being forced to resign or having lost re-election.
 

Terthna

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Thate a matter of opinion, we are all restrained by unspoken rules and norms, being a politician is no different in that regard and ultimately that's a trap they all fall into universally as even Trump didn't plow forward with everything he wanted in an unrestrained fashion.

Like I said, he is a politician, and most definitely not a revolutionary, but as far as realpolitik goes he has legitimately done all that can be expected of him within the power structure of what he's been given without being forced to resign or having lost re-election.
Perhaps it is a matter of opinion from your perspective; but from mine, the fact that Mitch McConnell is part of the problem is immutable. If you want a government that serves the people, and not the other way around, ousting people like him from politics is a prerequisite.
 

Jormungandr

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Things aren't looking too good for Biden already.

People, even those who supported him and those who literally danced in the streets for "Drumph being booted out!", are looking at his recent decisions with a critical, "what the fuck?" eye, and already he's creating a shit-ton of bad PR.

Hell, Texas looks one step away from having a full on revolt.

To every chucklehead who voted for Biden (well, those who actually did vote for him and weren't from 'errors' or 'discrepancies'), look and feel despair on what your bumblefuck choice is creating now.

Unless, you know, this was the plan all along: make him so unpopular that when he gets removed from office through either impeachment or resignation, Kamala Khan swoops in as the saviour...

...Except she's hated amongst even her own Party.
 

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Thats the one of the reasons I'm against impeaching Biden, which would not go through anyway, the Dems would never go against one of their own and there would be too many "nice guy/gracefull loser" republicucks .On the extremely offchance it got through Kamala would just get presidency. I am pretty sure the plan is for her to take over anyway. There is nothing to be done about it. Orange man bad, he said mean things on twitter and isn't "presidential" enough.
 

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Thats the one of the reasons I'm against impeaching Biden, which would not go through anyway, the Dems would never go against one of their own and there would be too many "nice guy/gracefull loser" republicucks .On the extremely offchance it got through Kamala would just get presidency. I am pretty sure the plan is for her to take over anyway. There is nothing to be done about it. Orange man bad, he said mean things on twitter and isn't "presidential" enough.
There is indeed a good point to be made that impeaching Biden is a bad idea because it will land is with Kamala and then Pelosi if we impeached her too.

To be fair, I think Kamala is probably already calling most of the shots, but I'd rather have Biden in there than harris.
 

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And impeachment is a dead-end anyway with Democrat majority in both chambers.
That really depends.

Kamala might be appealing to them, depending how it plays out with Biden.

In two years if Biden was given the boot, Kamala could finish the term, and then get elected twice. Serving for ten years total.

If Biden isn't doing what they want or things aren't playing out how they want...they might just jump on the Kamala train and send Biden hiking.
 

Terthna

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And impeachment is a dead-end anyway with Democrat majority in both chambers.
It's a dead-end no matter who's in charge at this point.



That really depends.

Kamala might be appealing to them, depending how it plays out with Biden.

In two years if Biden was given the boot, Kamala could finish the term, and then get elected twice. Serving for ten years total.

If Biden isn't doing what they want or things aren't playing out how they want...they might just jump on the Kamala train and send Biden hiking.
They're probably planning on doing that anyways; Biden's obviously borderline-senile, and it's going to take an enormous amount of effort to try and pretend that's not the case for two years, let alone four.
 

Rocinante

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It's a dead-end no matter who's in charge at this point.




They're probably planning on doing that anyways; Biden's obviously borderline-senile, and it's going to take an enormous amount of effort to try and pretend that's not the case for two years, let alone four.
More and more slips will make it apparent. They won't be able to deny it for too long.

Speaking of that, did you hear him leaving the inauguration? They presumably told him in his earpiece "salute the marines," and as he walks by he just says "salute the marines" instead of saluting them. Kinda funny.
 

ShieldWife

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God I wish he was as communist as you think he is.
Conservatives are incorrect in saying that Biden, or the American left in general, are communists. In a sense, despite occasionally using communist rhetoric and tactics, they are about as non-communist as can be because they’re all controlled by giant mega-corporations. What we are seeing in the modern USA isn’t a communist takeover of the nation, but a corporate takeover of the nation.

That isn’t to say that our left isn’t on the left, they are in very many ways, but fighting against the super rich against the exploited workers certainly isn’t one of those ways.

I hate using the word because it’s so abused as to almost be worthless, but if “fascism” is meant to mean a sort of authoritarian collusion between corporations and the state, then by that definition the USA is fast on its way towards fascism. But, unlike European fascism of the 1920’s - 1940’s, we have international fascism rather than national fascism. What I mean by that is in, for example, National Socialist Germany there was collusion between corporations and the state, but the relationship was ostensibly for the benefit of the nation (nationalism) and the state was in charge. What we have is the opposite, it’s international fascism, where the nation comes under the control of the corporations for the benefit of the corporations.

Biden, and the gigantic political and business machine that he is the figurehead of, personify this kind of fascism, or whatever you like to call it. Complete with brown (black) shirts beating up people in the streets, trumping up legal cases against political dissidents, and an attack on free speech.

Trump, for all of the absurd accusations of fascism hurled against him, was about this best resistance to this fascist takeover our nation could muster and now that he’s been defeated, the new regime will likely make an example of him and his allies.
 

Rocinante

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Conservatives are incorrect in saying that Biden, or the American left in general, are communists. In a sense, despite occasionally using communist rhetoric and tactics, they are about as non-communist as can be because they’re all controlled by giant mega-corporations. What we are seeing in the modern USA isn’t a communist takeover of the nation, but a corporate takeover of the nation.

That isn’t to say that our left isn’t on the left, they are in very many ways, but fighting against the super rich against the exploited workers certainly isn’t one of those ways.

I hate using the word because it’s so abused as to almost be worthless, but if “fascism” is meant to mean a sort of authoritarian collusion between corporations and the state, then by that definition the USA is fast on its way towards fascism. But, unlike European fascism of the 1920’s - 1940’s, we have international fascism rather than national fascism. What I mean by that is in, for example, National Socialist Germany there was collusion between corporations and the state, but the relationship was ostensibly for the benefit of the nation (nationalism) and the state was in charge. What we have is the opposite, it’s international fascism, where the nation comes under the control of the corporations for the benefit of the corporations.

Biden, and the gigantic political and business machine that he is the figurehead of, personify this kind of fascism, or whatever you like to call it. Complete with brown (black) shirts beating up people in the streets, trumping up legal cases against political dissidents, and an attack on free speech.

Trump, for all of the absurd accusations of fascism hurled against him, was about this best resistance to this fascist takeover our nation could muster and now that he’s been defeated, the new regime will likely make an example of him and his allies.
Calling all the lefties in america Commies has become about as useless as the left calling all of the right Nazis.

I see it in right wing circles constantly. "Oh you're doing __________? Communism!" And it could be literally nothing even having to do with economics. "You want trans athletes to compete with women! Communism!" I've legitimately seen some people make that argument.

Words have meanings. It just looks dumb.

I swear, some members of the right do more to hurt the right than help.
 
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Husky_Khan

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As I recall, an Obama aid was caught during his administration saying that they didn't need the House or the Senate; they could do whatever they wanted without involving them at all. So this isn't all that unexpected.

We don't call them Executive Orders in the Obama White House. They're referred to as "Presidential Memoranda."


It seems like nothing more than weird, selective memory to not single Obama out on this particular issue.
 
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We don't call them Executive Orders in the Obama White House. They're referred to as "Presidential Memoranda."

It seems like nothing more than weird, selective memory to not single Obama out on this particular issue.
Uh... Given your repurposing of my phrasing, I assume you meant to quote me, rather than @Terthna? But then, you're also talking about the Obama administration in the present tense, and the post is overall so pointless I'm wondering if maybe you're just drunk?

Sure, if you want to single out Obama for using a different tool to implement executive action, go right ahead and good for you! It doesn't really speak to the issue that Obama hardly invented the idea of running by executive fiat rather than legislation though, nor that Trump in particular was just the same.
 

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