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Tiamat

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That's an interesting strategy...



One really wishes there was a "head meets desk in utter bafflement at this stupidity" emoticon for this. The same woman who was all for incarceration as a DA in Cali so it would score her points, then does a complete reversal of that in interviews to get in the good graces of BLM and Antifa as VP? The same woman who showed herself to be a complete show-woman and opportunistic hack during the Brett Kavanaugh SCOTUS hearings?

They must have thought it was April Fool's Day.

She doesn't have what it takes to make it on the supreme court.


Oh, I wouldn't necessarily go that far. She definitely had what it took to become a DA, then a Senator....she just had to get used to getting on her knees, among other things.
 

prinCZess

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Oh, I wouldn't necessarily go that far. She definitely had what it took to become a DA, then a Senator....she just had to get used to getting on her knees, among other things.
I mean, in a way it's inspiring. Finally, proof that you really can blow your way through the glass ceiling.
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Though, more seriously, I call BS on any such talks or discussion. Harris would get legitimate questions in committee on grounds of qualifications considering total lack of judging experience.
Unless that is considered a roundabout way of garnering some support (because maybe attacks could be played-up and some sympathy ginned-up?)...It just really doesn't make sense from a pragmatic level. I'd put much more stock in it being outlandish rumor reported as gossipy anonymous-source bit.
 

Rocinante

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One really wishes there was a "head meets desk in utter bafflement at this stupidity" emoticon for this. The same woman who was all for incarceration as a DA in Cali so it would score her points, then does a complete reversal of that in interviews to get in the good graces of BLM and Antifa as VP? The same woman who showed herself to be a complete show-woman and opportunistic hack during the Brett Kavanaugh SCOTUS hearings?

They must have thought it was April Fool's Day.




Oh, I wouldn't necessarily go that far. She definitely had what it took to become a DA, then a Senator....she just had to get used to getting on her knees, among other things.
Putting her on the SC is an excuse for her to resign as VP, and they really want to get rid of her without looking like she's being forced to resign
 

ATP

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Putting her on the SC is an excuse for her to resign as VP, and they really want to get rid of her without looking like she's being forced to resign

No other choice.They advocate lockdowns,help China, support BLM,and still are unsure if they could fake elections or not.
Thay must show that they are not totally mad to not lost all supporters except genuine idiots.
Making sure that Kamala would nof be President is logical thing for them.Not mention,that even if they fake next elections and turn USA into neosoviets,she still would be liability as President.
 

The Whispering Monk

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Latest on Biden's mandate:

Biden Vaccine Mandate in Hospitals Knocked Back

"Judge Matthew Schelp of the Eastern District of Missouri issued the preliminary injunction for workers throughout 10 states at facilities that are certified for Medicare and Medicaid. The states are Iowa, Alaska, Arkansas, Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Wyoming, North Dakota and South Dakota."
 

Captain X

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This helps people here locally, because in spite of an emergency session (normally my state legislature only meets every two years), by own state government did exactly fuck all to protect its citizens from being blackmailed with their employment to get them to take a potentially harmful substance.
 

Rocinante

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Latest on Biden's mandate:

Biden Vaccine Mandate in Hospitals Knocked Back

"Judge Matthew Schelp of the Eastern District of Missouri issued the preliminary injunction for workers throughout 10 states at facilities that are certified for Medicare and Medicaid. The states are Iowa, Alaska, Arkansas, Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Wyoming, North Dakota and South Dakota."
The CMS mandate is what effects me. They aren't stopping it in Ohio, but this is a positive step.

Luckily I just had my religious exemption approved by HR. We had 200 people put in for religious exemption. We employee around 2000, so 10% of the company.

Just got news of approval today. December 3rd is the deadline to have the first shot.
 

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So we should not expect a ruling till spring it seems. However, from what Thomas was saying, and the line of questioning he undertook...I give this even odds of overturning Roe V Wade.

Of course that could backfire, as we are going into the the midterms this coming year, and an overturned Roe V Wade could see the threat of SCOTUS packing made good, and enrage the Left enough to hamper the theorized 'Red Wave' many expect via giving them a cause to rally around.

Because if SCOTUS does overturn Roe V Wade, expect the Dems to decide they will shove the same laws through Congress, or just decide to ignore SCOTUS fully, like they did with the eviction moratorium.
 

Cherico

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So we should not expect a ruling till spring it seems. However, from what Thomas was saying, and the line of questioning he undertook...I give this even odds of overturning Roe V Wade.

Of course that could backfire, as we are going into the the midterms this coming year, and an overturned Roe V Wade could see the threat of SCOTUS packing made good, and enrage the Left enough to hamper the theorized 'Red Wave' many expect via giving them a cause to rally around.

Because if SCOTUS does overturn Roe V Wade, expect the Dems to decide they will shove the same laws through Congress, or just decide to ignore SCOTUS fully, like they did with the eviction moratorium.


or they could kick it down and make it a state issue that works to.
 

Largo

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I am aggressively disinterested in abortion one way or the other. Still, if one was to consider the political ramifications of such a move for those who do care, now would be a pretty good time to take the controversial step of overturning Roe vs. Wade. A year before a midterm election which favors the GOP, and three years before the actual 2024 election. While abortion's never going to die as a hot-button political issue, the flame's extent would be smaller by that point.
 

Cherico

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I am aggressively disinterested in abortion one way or the other. Still, if one was to consider the political ramifications of such a move for those who do care, now would be a pretty good time to take the controversial step of overturning Roe vs. Wade. A year before a midterm election which favors the GOP, and three years before the actual 2024 election. While abortion's never going to die as a hot-button political issue, the flame's extent would be smaller by that point.

Personally I am very much fine with the idea of commies not reproducing.
 

Rocinante

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I am aggressively disinterested in abortion one way or the other. Still, if one was to consider the political ramifications of such a move for those who do care, now would be a pretty good time to take the controversial step of overturning Roe vs. Wade. A year before a midterm election which favors the GOP, and three years before the actual 2024 election. While abortion's never going to die as a hot-button political issue, the flame's extent would be smaller by that point.
This is close to how I feel about abortion.

On a personal level, I find it abhorrent and disgusting. As far as national politics goes, I don't really care. If the GOP wants to push restrictions, that doesn't turn me away from them. If they weren't trying to, that wouldn't turn me away either.
 

Marduk

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What people forget in the abortion debate is that contrary to the popular impression there aren't 2 sides to it. There are 3 factions in it, at very least.
1. People who want abortion heavily restricted, preferably from the point of conception, with their view based on deeply held religious beliefs usually. Usually willing to carve out exception towards situation where the pregnancy may kill the mother, but not much beyond that.
2. People who want abortion anywhere, anytime, for any reason, or even no reason at all, at taxpayer's expense preferably, no questions asked, due to a different kind of deeply held belief. Usually highly idealist progressives, leftists, feminists. They see this issue as a black and white one too - abortion being a right, a long awaited liberation from one of many raw deals nature gave one of the oppressed groups, which, as such, should be made as easily available as remotely possible.

Both of these sides make the bulk of activists of their respective sides, and it is extremely rare for them to change their view on the issue, as it would have to come with a change of their whole worldview to make sense. Likewise, they are not commonly getting people who have developed other views to come to their side. As the descriptions imply, both see the current setup as a dirty compromise, but still more acceptable than the other side winning completely. However, what they can do is make appeals to all the voters who don't qualify into either of these groups.

3. The weirdos, moderates, uninvolved, wannabe medical ethicians and so on. People who for whatever reason consider the abortion issue a question of underlying medical facts, philosophical assumptions, and competing rights of unborn child and its mother, social policy, or any combination thereof, who, as such are willing to adjust their opinion on account of argumentation about such things.

What conclusion shows up here most clearly is that any arguments that are supposed to change anyone's mind about the issue, nevermind change their vote on the basis of such (for obvious reasons groups 1 and 2 care about it more than 3, which, having more mixed feelings on it, is less likely to consider it a make or break issue for their voting preference), will need to be aimed at group(s) 3, preferably to as wide of a section of these as possible.

For one, as long as just knocking down the regulations down to state level goes, this is hardly the worst things as far as repelling moderates goes. Sure, it will seriously anger group 2, but lets be honest, they would never consider voting for GOP either way, not with today's ideological polarization.
For those who want more decentralization, also great news.
Those who live in blue states also won't be affected, unless they are highly political group 2 members who get angry at what red states do, or ironically, stand to benefit from abortion tourism to their state.
It is going to affect people in states that want to restrict abortion more than Roe allows. And who would that be? I'd guess that would mostly be the denizens of blue colonies cities within red states, and slightly discourage group 2 people from living there, which may have some dynamic interference with such events like the California exodus.
It will mobilize the religious conservatives, especially combined with inevitable promises by upcoming democrat candidates to do what they can to liberalize abortion again, while also, if such a thing is even possible after the height of BLM craze and constant transgender politics in the media, mobilizing the democrat base further too, for similar but opposite reasons.
 

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