United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread

LindyAF

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I thought gun control was racist? A way to keep poor whites and blacks from protecting themselves.

This is a civnat DR3 talking point, it's not one democrats care about or argue.

Exception being maybe when they're being thrilled by like the FAC or others like that, but dem run "pro-gun" organizations are all either explicitly pro gun control or unwilling to actually make a stand.
 

Vaermina

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I read two things that are meaningless, one thing that won't pass constitutional muster, and one big old barrel of pork.
 

Zachowon

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I read two things that are meaningless, one thing that won't pass constitutional muster, and one big old barrel of pork.
Explain please
 

ShadowArxxy

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Explain please

Well, it's not exactly a nothingburger, but it's also not even an actual policy yet. Directing the Justice Department to develop administrative policy is absolutely the President's perogative.

1. "Ghost guns". This is a reference to things like 80% upper kits, which can be freely bought and sold because they're not legally considered firearms until someone puts the work in to actually finish them. However, the EO doesn't actually ban kits, it only directs the Justice Department to think up a proposed regulation to "stop the proliferation" of them.

2. Having a clear rule regarding pistol arm braces is better than having the fucking ATF changing the rules whenever it feels like doing so, especially since following the ATF's previous rule in good faith doesn't necessarily protect you from felony charges when they change the rules.

3. "Red flag" legislation is generally bad because it allows people to be deprived of legally owned firearms by the courts in an expedited "temporary" manner without proper due process. However, "model legislation" by the Justice Department is literally a nothingburger; it's literally not-actual-legislation that states are encouraged to emulate in actual laws.

4. "Investing in evidence-based community violence interventions" is pretty much meaningless politician-babble.
 

Vaermina

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1. "Ghost guns". This is a reference to things like 80% upper kits, which can be freely bought and sold because they're not legally considered firearms until someone puts the work in to actually finish them. However, the EO doesn't actually ban kits, it only directs the Justice Department to think up a proposed regulation to "stop the proliferation" of them.
Also so called "Ghost Guns" are almost never actually used in crimes due to how much effort it takes to put them together.

The one's that are, are a different type of illegal firearm.
 

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Trump wasn't any better on gun rights, and Trump's statements on wanting to seize legal guns *first* and ban them afterwards rank among the most disturbingly extreme things any American political leader has ever said.

That was awful and disturbing, however in Trump's defense, I think it was motivated by more of a genuine sense of "oh crap, this is a problem, we need to do something", he just handled it in the most dumb, hamfisted way possible, because Trump. But there was a genuine desire to actually address the issue, as opposed to something like Biden's EOs here, which target "issues" that cannot be be tangibly linked to any sort of criminal behavior, they're almost pure theater.

And given what I know of the people that own 80% and pistol braces, and what their motives for owning them are, the parts of that EO that's not theater I can only describe as targeted retribution against a specific segment of the gun community, namely the "up yours, fedboy" ATF-hater demographic.


Speaking of ATF hate, Biden's new nominee for the postion, David Chipman, has already drawn criticism. Main points so far are that he has a long track record as an anti-gun activist, he's made a number of brazen lies about gun related issues, such as claiming that 50 cal rifles were used to shoot down helicopters at waco, which factually didn't happen and ties into a long history of liberals fearmongering about 50 cals being used to shot down aircraft, despite them never being used to do so or used from any criminal purposes at all. Also, he was involved in Waco in the first place as a "case agent", which I admit I don't know what that is, but frankly any involvement in waco is more than enough to disqualify him from anything government related, unless it's government housing.

Also so called "Ghost Guns" are almost never actually used in crimes due to how much effort it takes to put them together.

There's not really a lot of extra effort involved in putting together a parts kit and 80% lower, it's more that there's actually next to no tangible benefit to having one. Ghost guns aren't used in crimes because there's no value to an untraceable gun. The cops can get ahold a gun you used to murder somone in one two ways.
1. They catch you with the gun. You are screwed, the fact they can't trace the gun doesn't help you.
2. They find it at the scene, in which case you likely were smart enough to steal a gun from someone else or buy a stolen gun, in which case tracing it will give the cops nothing.

In general, gun registration, gun tracing, bullet casing registration, and similar intrusive measures have either proven useless or only marginally effective (and even gun control advocates admit that in a way, as anti-gun sites that talk about registration don't, or rather can't, point to any times it's had even the appearance of widespread success).
 

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Biden's new proposed budget for the Pentagon and National Security will be thicker then any previous year under Trump.




This is part of his proposed 1.5 trillion dollar budget for discretionary spending.
 

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Who's stunned he's moving to pack the Supreme Court?

It's not quite that bad.

“The Commission’s purpose is to provide an analysis of the principal arguments in the contemporary public debate for and against Supreme Court reform, including an appraisal of the merits and legality of particular reform proposals,” the White House said in a statement. “The topics it will examine include the genesis of the reform debate; the Court’s role in the Constitutional system; the length of service and turnover of justices on the Court; the membership and size of the Court; and the Court’s case selection, rules, and practices.”

This is basically him kicking the question down the road, because these questions are things everyone involved already knows or that are functional irrelevant. For example, term limits for justices. Justices have a lifetime term, per the constitution, and that can only be changed via amendment. That's civics 101 stuff, the only reason to form a committee for that is if you know the answer, know that telling people the answer will piss them off, and want someone else to take the heat for telling them.

I'm actually sorta interested in these, because it will amusing. For example, the "genesis of the reform debate" is pretty well known. It originated because the democrats want to seize power and need the veneer of legitimacy to get away with doing so, and I'm really looking forward to seeing how the committee either admits that, or twists itself up in knots trying to not admit that.


Also, keep in mind no matter what this committee says, Biden can't do anything. Court packing will have to start with congress laying the groundwork, and they don't have the votes for it.
 

Terthna

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It's not quite that bad.



This is basically him kicking the question down the road, because these questions are things everyone involved already knows or that are functional irrelevant. For example, term limits for justices. Justices have a lifetime term, per the constitution, and that can only be changed via amendment. That's civics 101 stuff, the only reason to form a committee for that is if you know the answer, know that telling people the answer will piss them off, and want someone else to take the heat for telling them.

I'm actually sorta interested in these, because it will amusing. For example, the "genesis of the reform debate" is pretty well known. It originated because the democrats want to seize power and need the veneer of legitimacy to get away with doing so, and I'm really looking forward to seeing how the committee either admits that, or twists itself up in knots trying to not admit that.


Also, keep in mind no matter what this committee says, Biden can't do anything. Court packing will have to start with congress laying the groundwork, and they don't have the votes for it.
It's not even necessary at this point, considering how the Supreme Court castrated themselves; it's unlikely they'll ever oppose the establishment when it really matters.
 

Chaos Marine

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Apparently some no good troll decided to scrape data on votes of the PoTUS Youtube channel. There are plenty of screenshots showing that dislikes are being deleted from the PoTUS channel but if this data is correct, Youtube are consistently trying to protect that guy's administration. Another reason for Youtube pondering the notion of hiding the dislikes?
 

Cherico

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We may not see the full on crazy attempted communist takeover until Kamala takes over. This is just the prelude, trying to appease the crazies in the Democrat asylum. They won't be.

This is honestly just the tip of the iceberg for the insanity and bullshit that awaits us, and no its not just america but the entire western world. Its going to get a whole lot worse.
 

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