DarthOne
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Just to be clear, you realize I was being incredibly sarcastic there, right?
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Yes.
Terthna
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I'd almost expect them to abolish term limits so that she can stay in office forever, but to be honest they probably don't need her to. By that point, they'll have their next puppet waiting in line.
Terthna
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Even if she doesn't, it'll be someone who's just like her. You're never going to see a candidate like Trump get into office again.
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If that's the case, then why shouldn't the real republicans violently overthrow the demorats and install our own regime? It's either their regime or ours, and I don't want to live in a place where I'm hated for being white and straight.
Terthna
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They'll have to get through the establishment Republicans first, who I'm sure will be eager to denounce and cast them out.
Because that would spark a civil war and could end in a loss. Plus it would lead to single party rule, which is not very effective and possibly to autocracy. And violence would set a precedence, and possibly lead to further decay of the American Republic. Making it a revolving door of authoritarian regimes. Also, because violence would just play into their hands, it needs to be made clear they have violated the rule of law and norms of the nation first, and have made legitimate redress within both possible first- before you jump to it.
And I really dislike how the term regime is misused. It really does limit our language and how we discuss things.
DarthOne
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Aren’t you just full of pep and sunshine this morning...
He's not wrong.
Trump will never be allowed back into office, and no outsider like him will be allowed to either. The Uniparty won't allow it.
The only way we get a GOP POTUS again is if it is an establishment shill that is little more than controlled opposition, and that is only of the vote counters decide to try to defuse things by allowing any GOP POTUS again.
This "oh no, we lost, the other party will surely seize power and lock us out forever" crap was stupid and pathetic when people on the left did it after Trump won, it doesn't sound any better from the right.
Actually, it sounds worse, because at least in 2016 the right was at least theoretically in a position to do something.
Actually, it sounds worse, because at least in 2016 the right was at least theoretically in a position to do something.
DarthOne
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Agreed, I know I've dipped into that sort of mindset myself, but this defeatism helps no one.
With the left attempting to solidify voter laws that make it harder to maintain voting integrity, it's a fair concern to have.
It's not certain or set in stone, but it's a legitimate fear to be aware of. Not acknowledging the danger is worse than worrying too much.
Though I try to keep my response moderate. I don't think it's too late yet, because they haven't managed to get those laws through yet.
2022 may be the last stand. It's not over yet, though.
States are already changing Laws.
Look at GA for instance
Yes, the left is attempting to pass HR 1, a bill that would do a lot of damage if passed into law, even after the SC rips apart all the bits of it that are flatly illegal. And by "attempting" to pass it, I mean they're trying to badger a few members of thier own party into passing it, and failing, and also attempting to convince those same members to get rid of the filibuster so that if they actually scrap up the votes for HR 1, they can prevent the Republicans from blocking it, and their attempt do that is failing even more than their effort to round up votes for HR1, a bill that, I remind you, will have major chucks ripping out of it by the SC.
Meanwhile, the right (and in several states, the right and parts of the left) is actually getting bills signed that codify election procedures, improve the process, and block any future attempts at 2020 style nonsense, and all the left can do about it is have the media, which is growing less trusted and respected by the day, run around whining. Whining in very vague terms, because outside of a handful of questionable passages here and there (many of which have been changed or removed by the time the bills hits the governor's desk) there's nothing tangible for them to latch onto and critize.
The doom and gloom sentiments that keep popping up in this thread are verifiably not rooted in reality.
And keeping talking about this, the dangers it poses and keeping it fresh in the people's minds, stops is from becoming complacent and letting it slip on by. Keeps our representatives in line, and keeps them passing good bills like we are seeing in GA.
I don't think it's sealed in stone or that it's over. I also don't think we are totally safe.
We have to remain aware of these things, having some concern and mistrust is a GOOD thing. Hysterics not so much, and I fully admit, depending how nihilistic I am feeling on a particular day, I have fallen into the trap of hopeless despair myself.
And you also think Biden didn't steal the election.
So of course you still think the voting box can save us and that the system isn't FUBAR.
I cannot, and will not, operate on the assumption that our voting system actually represents the people anymore. I cannot, and will not, operate on the assumption that the GOP establishment is any other than controlled opposition on everything but guns and abortion.
We are a banana republic with nukes now; I'm just willing to accept that and try to figure out how to live in the new reality we face.
Bacle.
This is what the left wants. Us to give up and not vote so they win without cheating. They know they can't do it again and get away with it so yeah
The whole election fraud thing makes this a legitimate concern. I know you wish to pretend it didn't happen, but one need only look at how Democrats act concerning it, and it seems they certainly believe the election was fraudulent as well. If not, they would be all for an open and transparent election audit, because as far as they know it would show that the results were exactly what they were, and would serve to both legitimize them and embarrass their political enemies who claim the election was fraudulent. Yet they seek to be anything but transparent, and are doing everything they can to either stop any attempts at auditing, or to paint them as illegitimate themselves.
See, I do not agree that they will not get away with it again.
I expect them to do it again, and get away with it again.
I hope I'm wrong, but I cannot and will not operate on the assumption that this was a 'one time thing' they won't be able to pull off in the future.