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So this is about making EU courts more willing to allow data-transfer, and that's why the new 'restrictions' went into place.

Of course there are no safeguards against the language in it being manipulated to count 'domestic' issues as 'foreign' issues, and it seems like the same loop-holes that were able to be abused to spy on Trump in the 'Russia-gate Hoax' under the same 'foreign agent rules' are still not addressed.
 

Vaermina

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This source indicates that, although the record is not expunged, the pardon does remove civil disabilities. So why is the claim about "removing this burden" (of being denied such and such as a result of conviction) incorrect?
No it doesn't... The source indicates the exact opposite...
While a presidential pardon will restore various rights lost as a result of the pardoned offense and should lessen to some extent the stigma arising from a conviction, it will not erase or expunge the record of your conviction. Therefore, even if you are granted a pardon, you must still disclose your conviction on any form where such information is required, although you may also disclose the fact that you received a pardon. In addition, most civil disabilities attendant upon a federal felony conviction, such as loss of the right to vote and hold state public office, are imposed by state rather than federal law, and also may be removed by state action. Because the federal pardon process is exacting and may be more time-consuming than analogous state procedures, you may wish to consult with the appropriate authorities in the state of your residence regarding the procedures for restoring your state civil rights.
 

strunkenwhite

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No it doesn't... The source indicates the exact opposite...
Are there, then, civil disabilities imposed by federal law that will be lifted automatically? Otherwise it would be very strange for the source to contradict itself:
A pardon is an expression of the President’s forgiveness. It does not signify innocence or expunge the conviction. It does, however, remove civil disabilities—such as restrictions on the right to vote, to hold office, or to sit on a jury—that are imposed because of the pardoned conviction. It may also be helpful in obtaining licenses, bonding, or employment.
 

mrttao

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so, were they protesting or were they blockading? They seem to be conflicting news on what they were doing.
Actually, how could 11 elderly people even blockade anything?

Also, gun drawn FBI raids for serving arrest papers to an elderly person? clear intimidation tactic.
 

Wargamer08

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I mean, some of the tweets explicitly state blockade. I am just wondering what that is about.
See, while protesting is hard to get an NPC to understand as actually a crime, given how often it's used to promote things to them, blocking access to a 'vital' and 'life-saving' clinic is easy for them to understand. It also has laws around it, though mostly meant to refer to blocking ambulances and the like.

It's more government overreach and performance theatre.
 

strunkenwhite

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Just seemed to be protesting, unless I’m missing something.
When people line up across the entrance and refuse to budge for people trying to get in or out, that's when the protest is a blockade. Even when the people are "memaws and pawpaws".

11 years sounds excessive, but I can't say I disagree with the idea that "I have family in a chaotic warzone halfway across the planet, please let me visit" sounds like a flight risk.

The unrelated arrest of Zastrow was a specific application of the easily and often abused "disturbing the peace" charge. He got a payday from the city and the police were enjoined from hitting pro-life protesters with the same charge in the future, which is disappointing only in its specificity.
 

Bear Ribs

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I mean, some of the tweets explicitly state blockade. I am just wondering what that is about.
If you look at the news articles on this, you might notice none of them have pictures of the "blockading" even though it was livestreamed. The utter lack of images is generally a good clue they're playing word games. Under the FACE act, anything that might be construed as "intimidating" people going to get an abortion is blockading, and a federal offense, even if completely nonviolent.

The actual protest is partially covered here:


They don't look to be blocking anything much to me, the actual charges claim somebody was blocking a section of sidewalk near the clinic, which given how the FACE act works pretty much could just mean they walked on it.
 

strunkenwhite

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The tweet thread made it sound like the blockade part was beyond question. Since the thread was obviously sympathetic to the protesters I took that to mean it was true. If that's not the case, then that changes things.
 

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I know that the Feds and Planned Parenthood tried to invoke the FACE act against a crisis pregnancy center in Tempe that was in the shopping center *before* the Planned Parenthood clinic moved in next door. Fortunately a judge squashed that. Which led to the situation where the actual room where they did abortions shared a wall with the chapel in the crisis pregnancy center.

So we would hold our Prayer for Life rosary in that chapel, which prompted them to try again, on the grounds that their 'patients' could hear the rosary being prayed and kept on deciding not to go ahead with the abortion, which they claimed constituted obstruction under the FACE act. Judge squashed that one as well.

We would also hold signs and pray the rosary along the street, about a hundred yards or so away from the clinic on a public sidewalk well away from their entrance (we weren't even on the same street, technically, as the clinic) and sure enough, they claimed FACE act violations.

Before this POS administration, generally such wild-eyed claims were ignored as being ridiculous on their face. Now they just want to hurt their political enemies. The FBI is 100% politicized at this point.
 

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