Marvel By the time of the Cold War, the mass majority of the Human Population gained superpowers?

CarlManvers2019

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How exactly it occurred can maybe be explained by ROB, but in-terms or genetics, let’s say they’re NOT all mutants but their genetics say “something” changed to grant them powers that could be inherited

The powers are more-or-less like Quirks from MHA

They don’t all necessarily have the Required Secondary Superpowers, they may not necessarily be able to use their powers for so long, they may need training to make it versatile or “produce more” and such

Presume that somehow the shock of this all dies down quick

How do things go?

Knowing the whole Cold War is still a thing?
 

PeliusAnar

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How exactly it occurred can maybe be explained by ROB, but in-terms or genetics, let’s say they’re NOT all mutants but their genetics say “something” changed to grant them powers that could be inherited

The powers are more-or-less like Quirks from MHA

They don’t all necessarily have the Required Secondary Superpowers, they may not necessarily be able to use their powers for so long, they may need training to make it versatile or “produce more” and such

Presume that somehow the shock of this all dies down quick

How do things go?

Knowing the whole Cold War is still a thing?
A huge effort to find and locate individuals with useful quirks and then bring them to that country. The main powers to look out for are any kind of Trump effect, long range teleportation, mind control, and future prediction. In the US there is a strong comic book history of heroism, so that would be the pervading default with government oversight. The USSR would probably focus on military operations and more strict control of their powered individuals, most likely granting them special privilages. The rest of the world would swing between these two options and the third option of warlords. There would be no stability with the idea of might makes right.

Both the USSR and the US would then begin an attempt to bring said quirks more under their control and assassinating the top powered individuals in the other country if they can get away with it. Other countries would then become the scene for proxy battles between powered individuals with almost everyone being forced to pick a side.

MAD doctrine would still exist, perhaps with an understanding that each nations capital is off limits. Still, over time the US would gain a technological advantage and use that to leverage powers and greater world control. Certain individuals would be declared WMD and banned from traveling or very closely monitored with a security detail.

Trump powers would be used to accumulate all the strongest powers in the hopes of forming the ubermensch or perfect individual. Think of a government sponsored All For One. They in turn would be appointed to manage the powered agency and slowly collect more powers unto themselves ensuring the eventual superiority of their country in the long term.
 

CarlManvers2019

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@PeliusAnar
Since anti-mutant discrimination is likely to become a thing, what do guys like Magneto do with their lives?

I forgot to sorta emphasize again this was set in Marvel, Captain America’s still under the ice for this or gets picked up later at some point, but doesn’t gain new powers
 

PeliusAnar

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Since anti-mutant discrimination is likely to become a thing, what do guys like Magneto do with their lives?

I forgot to sorta emphasize again this was set in Marvel, Captain America’s still under the ice for this or gets picked up later at some point, but doesn’t gain new powers
Discrimination won't work if it is like MHA with 80% of the population having a power of some kind. At that point the discrimination is towards unpowered people. The discrimination Magneto fought against has less than 5% have powers, I think it was less than 1% with how few people there actually are with the X gene. The issue comes down to the % of people with powers.

If the % is small enough you probably have a power registration and a big push by the government to hire all the powered individuals if there power is remotely combat related.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Discrimination won't work if it is like MHA with 80% of the population having a power of some kind. At that point the discrimination is towards unpowered people. The discrimination Magneto fought against has less than 5% have powers, I think it was less than 1% with how few people there actually are with the X gene. The issue comes down to the % of people with powers.

If the % is small enough you probably have a power registration and a big push by the government to hire all the powered individuals if there power is remotely combat related.

So what does Magneto do with his life?

Also, given how different American culture is from
Japanese culture, would those Anti-Quirk-Use Laws even work for long? Don’t use your powers in public or in crowded areas
 

PeliusAnar

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So what does Magneto do with his life?

Also, given how different American culture is from
Japanese culture, would those Anti-Quirk-Use Laws even work for long? Don’t use your powers in public or in crowded areas
Magneto gets a job. ;p

Realistically since he was a Jew in a concentration camp during WW2, there is a good chance he travels to Israel and becomes a champion for that country.

Quirks would be treated like guns in the US. If you use them you better be absolutely sure about it. For useless quirks, no one would care or there would be a Non-Danger Quirk usage. Possibly a certification in public school for kids to test out their quirks and get them rated so there are no adverse reactions later on in life. Also there would be no heroes in the US as we think about them. There would be elite squads like SWAT, that go in and take out criminal power users. Using a power in a criminal manner would most likely lead to a lot higher fatality rate and a decrease in crime.

When a criminal is super strong, there are only so many options before you have to go lethal. With the destruction powered criminals would cause there would be a strong push/support for lethal force being applied very quickly to threatening individuals.

Also there would be training centers and licensing places for people to use quirks that are not just heroes. That is the stupidest law ever. Sorry MHA, the anti-quirk law is just impractical and pushes people into criminality who could have gotten a job else where. Like Gravity Girl, I mean she should just be allowed to take a year long certification course and then is put on probation while using her power to aid in construction and then after 3 years gets fully licensed to use her quirk publicly. There would be insurance companies around getting licensed as well, just like getting a car. Would make the government lots of money and people get to use their powers in non-conflict driven activities.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Magneto gets a job. ;p

Realistically since he was a Jew in a concentration camp during WW2, there is a good chance he travels to Israel and becomes a champion for that country.

He gets elected at some point when he decides to go into politics, for some reason, war-vet celebrity of sorts who defended even the Jews coming from the nearby Middle Eastern-African nations

Also there would be no heroes in the US as we think about them. There would be elite squads like SWAT, that go in and take out criminal power users.

No costumes and "codenames"? Awww

Though, I think they'd decide to make use of em anyway, given that guys like Captain America existed

Also there would be training centers and licensing places for people to use quirks that are not just heroes. That is the stupidest law ever. Sorry MHA, the anti-quirk law is just impractical and pushes people into criminality who could have gotten a job else where. Like Gravity Girl, I mean she should just be allowed to take a year long certification course and then is put on probation while using her power to aid in construction and then after 3 years gets fully licensed to use her quirk publicly. There would be insurance companies around getting licensed as well, just like getting a car. Would make the government lots of money and people get to use their powers in non-conflict driven activities.

What about the idea that allowing people with superpowers and super-tech to use them in the Free Market, would ruin it or cause too many people to become unemployed?



It's only a matter of time till a bunch of supervillains based around getting pissed at it show up
 

PeliusAnar

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He gets elected at some point when he decides to go into politics, for some reason, war-vet celebrity of sorts who defended even the Jews coming from the nearby Middle Eastern-African nations



No costumes and "codenames"? Awww

Though, I think they'd decide to make use of em anyway, given that guys like Captain America existed



What about the idea that allowing people with superpowers and super-tech to use them in the Free Market, would ruin it or cause too many people to become unemployed?



It's only a matter of time till a bunch of supervillains based around getting pissed at it show up


Possibly code names to keep the IDs secret, since they are going to have a high kill count taking out criminals. This would be to protect their families. I could see the US Government or at least that agency selling toys of these heroes in order to get funding and increase public acceptance.

As long as the technology is introduced over a minimum period of 5 years then the disruption will be minimal. Take a freeze ray, you can't just sell a freeze ray. First you build the freeze ray into a fridge and charge $20k per fridge. Then slowly lower the price and improve the model over 5 years as you force out other competitors. This allows workers to get other jobs and the manufacturing complexes to transition to something else.

Seriously All For One would have been given everything by any kind of government. There was no need for him to be a criminal. Once he was powerful enough, he could just start his own country in Africa or run for office and use an array of quirks to win. It makes absolutely no sense that someone that powerful would hide in the shadows. So great story, but meh in terms of making sense.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Possibly code names to keep the IDs secret, since they are going to have a high kill count taking out criminals. This would be to protect their families. I could see the US Government or at least that agency selling toys of these heroes in order to get funding and increase public acceptance.

What about for those who decide to publicly reveal their identities?

And wait, this means the government owns the IP for all those businesses making merchandise off em?

As long as the technology is introduced over a minimum period of 5 years then the disruption will be minimal. Take a freeze ray, you can't just sell a freeze ray. First you build the freeze ray into a fridge and charge $20k per fridge. Then slowly lower the price and improve the model over 5 years as you force out other competitors. This allows workers to get other jobs and the manufacturing complexes to transition to something else.

What about if the designs eventually get out?

Seriously All For One would have been given everything by any kind of government. There was no need for him to be a criminal. Once he was powerful enough, he could just start his own country in Africa or run for office and use an array of quirks to win. It makes absolutely no sense that someone that powerful would hide in the shadows. So great story, but meh in terms of making sense.

Some people are YUGE douchebags who do things that are "petty" even if they are pretty smart themselves

Because weirdly enough, "it's more fun" to mess shit up that way





What about other races or hidden civilisations on Earth and aliens and magical entities and so on? What do they do? The place is still a Fantasy Kitchen Sink, but no more ordinary humans, just civilians with superpowers of varying degrees of actually useful

Alien Invasions switch to attempts to make deals with local human governments? Even attempts to essentially hire them off as mercenaries?
 

PeliusAnar

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What about for those who decide to publicly reveal their identities?

And wait, this means the government owns the IP for all those businesses making merchandise off em?



What about if the designs eventually get out?



Some people are YUGE douchebags who do things that are "petty" even if they are pretty smart themselves

Because weirdly enough, "it's more fun" to mess shit up that way





What about other races or hidden civilisations on Earth and aliens and magical entities and so on? What do they do? The place is still a Fantasy Kitchen Sink, but no more ordinary humans, just civilians with superpowers of varying degrees of actually useful

Alien Invasions switch to attempts to make deals with local human governments? Even attempts to essentially hire them off as mercenaries?
I imagine the 'heroes' as a super powered SWAT force. To deal with criminals and situations the regular police can't handle. You don't worry about the guy who can pull out his eyes, but the guy who can shoot lasers from his eyes. This force would most likely have their IDs concealed to protect their families, since they are sponsored by the government, the government would own any merchandise and use that to offset outfitting costs or repairs costs for collateral damage.

Even if designs get out, just have agressive patent protections. Anyways if you scale up and release iterations, then your competitors will struggle. It is like the iPhone. Being first to market is a huge advantage, then you upgrade every year going forward. The main thing is to not just the end tech out there all at once.

People who just want to wreck things, 'just because' are either terrorists, criminals, insane, or all three. That is where you would have government sponsored 'heroes' swoop in and either kill or capture these people. There is just no other way to handle a super powered society that isn't rule of the strongest. The monopoly of force/violence is what keeps a government in power.

Hidden civilizations are....impractical for the most part. Concealing something like that would lead to issues with orbiting satellites mapping out the terrain. Maybe an island with a cloak, but even then it is questionable. The hidden civilizations would become key points for USA and USSR to compete for to bring over to their side. Unless the hidden civilization has a power level greater than the superpowers, they would get forced to pick a side and be fought over.

Magic, it depends on the magic rules. The first thing the government would do would be to research the heck out of it. If it can be reproduced and have quantifiable inputs and outputs, then it would just become another branch of science like magi-tech. Magical creatures that have human intelligence but are not human would most likely be put on preserves and disected for the most part during the Cold War time period. Trained magicals would be offered money to go work for the government, just a more spread out version of the hidden civilization issue.

Alien civilizations, it comes down to tech level and how much they want to interfere. Once you have control of the orbitals of a planet, that planet is your bitch. You can just drop asteroids on the nations you don't like and they can't block those types of attacks. I suspect that humans would unite in the face of an alien presence. The USA and USSR would probably say, 'fuck those aliens', because any situation where aliens get the upper hand means humans are losing out. You have to remember that the USA and USSR did talk and come to agreements even during the Cold War. Despite having competing interests, I could easily see a joint space militarization program if aliens came on scene, which could eventually lead to the formation of a world government.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Hidden civilizations are....impractical for the most part. Concealing something like that would lead to issues with orbiting satellites mapping out the terrain. Maybe an island with a cloak, but even then it is questionable. The hidden civilizations would become key points for USA and USSR to compete for to bring over to their side. Unless the hidden civilization has a power level greater than the superpowers, they would get forced to pick a side and be fought over.

I'm guessing Wakanda opens up and becomes extremely active and Namor does stuff with Atlantis and so do the Inhumans

So maybe additional members to the UN, even when they're from deep underground another nation or exist in somebody else's oceans
 

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