Important Civility Rules Enforcement

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That's not the point I am getting at Zoe,

Here's the initial post he made note the question mark's and the clear rule 2a infraction.

https://www.the-sietch.com/index.ph...rums-sb-sv-qq-ah-etc.626/page-309#post-105599

As you can see he was infracted by someone and (????????) was where that was Mechanicus is claiming that he never said that despite the fact that he was not only infracted but the fact that I also have evidence of him saying it.

https://www.the-sietch.com/index.ph...rums-sb-sv-qq-ah-etc.626/page-309#post-105608

As you can see the next post which was last edited Wednesday if you click this post it will lead you directly to the infracted one.

In short IDK why Mechanicus insist on denying he ever stated when he know's very well he did.

(Also I asked LTR about this and she said that their must be a glitch in the system because her logs say nobody edited the post period, despite the fact that the evidence I presented says someone had too, so I will be reporting this to tech. (I don't want you to think I am some sort of drama queen when I post this their, LTR was the one who recommended the glitch be looked at not me.)

I have evidence and my own memory to go by at the bottom line, you have nothing, but desperately pleads of 'I didn't do it'

Wait a week and see the evidence yourself if you refuse to believe me.

I didn't change anything. None of my staff said they changed anything. The ???? were, to my knowledge, there when we hit him for saying f*ggot separately, earlier in the post. I don't believe anything has changed. He was already hit for this post, and I request that you consider just calming down about it.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Man they're already lying about us to rule lawyer into getting us banned which was what I was told was actionable for a banning in the other direction

They're out here already trying to take a mile and cull users
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@Fallout-Man101 out here, straight up framing a user to abuse the rules further justifying our concerns huh?
 

Free-Stater 101

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I didn't change anything. None of my staff said they changed anything. The ???? were, to my knowledge, there when we hit him for saying f*ggot separately, earlier in the post. I don't believe anything has changed. He was already hit for this post, and I request that you consider just calming down about it.
I am not accusing you of anything, I remember what I saw. It's not because of the post itself, but his denial of his own actions that annoy me.

In any case I will drop it but my opinion remains unchanged.
 

Harlock

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Sorry sorry, got shut down while I was typing :p


You mean on a site comprised entirely of refugees from leftwing sites where the staff encourage a culture of snitching that your userbase would be reluctant to...inform on their fellows? Even when their fellows are spies for Whitehall mods as Bacle clearly conducts himself as?

Not trying to be a dick, it just seems a little tone deaf and like the rules are being selectively enforced to some degree.

Personally I don't care if I'm called a Nazi. As I dont care, I usually don't report it and just focus on the argument or ignore it entirely. Anyone who does that is a weak person with a bad argument throwing a tantrum. I'm not going to report a thing I think has no meaning and being called a Nazi has no more meaning. They have cheapened it to where its become the equivalent of calling someone a Fag ten years ago, if you'll excuse my use of the pejorative.

But for others here, they may still care about the N word and wonder why when so many mods were here, that the rinos didn't catch a beating when Sane was and the rest of us were threatened.



Your hate speech laws are abomination against the very notion of civilization itself. There is no true liberty in the UK anymore and your nation faces cultural extinction as its being forced by the bureaucrat class to destroy the notion of what it means to be English on a cultural level in favor of integration and that has been happening since well before Enoch Powell made his rivers of blood speech.

I would argue any government official be they regular cops on the streets or city management dudes or MEPs, to social workers who continue to enforce the policies that are systematically destroying the UK is not your friendly neighborhood city fellow but an agent of a hostile occupying force that is determined to end your society.

A nation can survive a demographic change, ethnically speaking. This is where I think ethnonationalists are insane.

Hell the Ancient Egyptians had what? 4 demographic changes until Islam ended their culture in an orgy of rape and bloodshed? Or at least finished what the Germanics started.

But no nation on earth, can survive cultural deconstruction. It is the means by which all great nations have been destroyed and all great peoples broken. The death of the culture means the death of the national spirit and with it all peoples and creeds and faiths of the polis.

So ubarask isn't wrong to say your average British Civil servant has a serious problem with loyalty and duty and has hit the motherload as far as conflict of interests go.

Calling for their deaths in very specific ways was bad. But Sheild wife ain't wrong to say they are enemies of the people.

The FBI certainly is.

Most bureaucrats who work for the government in the US are traitors. Their frustrations are understandable.

It certainly isn't patriotism to defend them anymore. It used to be but then both our countries got raped by political deconstructivism.

Calling for deaths the way he did was out of line. But let's not pretend the indignation behind the emotional outburst was unfounded

Because it is fundamentally aiming the gun the wrong way. To read that description you would be led to believe it was a race issue, that racism and fear of it condemned hundreds to such horrors. That is like saying WW2 happened because some Austrian didn't make it to art school. It's one reason, and yes a true one, but it is neither the only reason nor the biggest reason. I mean I think you have a passing familiarity with the Jimmy Saville case which was the exact same thing but without any racism. Same effect.

Even if you were to go after the racism angle it does nothing to address the other equally huge social issues and attitudes that allow abuse to happen without any racism at all. You need that full picture, that understanding of about a dozen different elements all tying in to make this happen, situations that everywhere is guilty of.

So yes it does piss me off to see it trotted out with the wrong reasons, not because it isn't as bad as it is made out to be but because it is actually much worse and missing that and assuming it was just one cause doesn't help stop it happening elsewhere. Absolute worst thing you can do in a situation like this is draw the wrong conclusion because you don't have the full picture.
 

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OK, since it's been asked...

The Boot's Handy Dandy Guide To What Is And Isn't A Slur

You are an idiot! -- NOT A SLUR
You are a moron! -- NOT A SLUR
You knucklehead! -- NOT A SLUR
You brainless waste of air! - NOT A SLUR
You useless piece of trash! - STILL NOT A SLUR
Everybody is dumber for having read what you wrote! - Insulting, but STILL NOT A SLUR

See a pattern here? Just avoid *actual* slurs. N******, F*****, S***, etc. And you will never be infracted for using slurs!

Now, we'd prefer that you engage the actual content rather than engage in personal attacks, because personal attacks can still rise to the level of being infractions. But if in the heat of an argument you throw up your hands and call somebody an idiot, we're not going to have a cow.

Also note, that if you enter a thread just to insult somebody else, that's a civility violation and your knuckles will get thwapped. But if you enter a thread, strongly disagree with somebody but engage the subject of the post? Not a problem at all, no matter how much whining occurs.

For best practices? Format 'You're wrong, here's why' works quite well. You are engaging the content, not the poster (hopefully your 'here's why' isn't 'because you are wrong').

As to using 'slurs' in other contexts, it honestly is a case by case thing. Using it in a story thread where it fits the characterization or time period? Acceptable. If somebody using it comes up in the news and you are posting the source and commentary? Go ahead, we know the difference between you using it as a slur and reposting news. But just venting? May I recommend using the ancient and honored technique of ^&*^% instead? We'll all know what you mean, but you didn't actually say it, so it's all good, ya know?

Note, 'You are a Dodger's Fan' IS a Slur in the opinion of the Boot, and admitting to being a Dodger's Fan is grounds for immediate mockery. This is the invisible Rule Of Dodger's Oppression that exists only in the Boot's laces.
 
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