Planning & Worldbuilding Counter-Woke Comic Book Fics

LindyAF

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I would present Red Skull as a tempter figure who ultimately ends up using the benefit of the doubt the anti-reg heroes give him as a means to work his own villain scheme for world dominance.

Eh... this doesn't feel very true to the original inspiration, really? I mean, if you're going to go that route, then you could also just remove Skull totally, because IMO he wouldn't be adding much here as a standard villain.

Heroes and Villains have cooperated in Marvel to stop greater threats before without the Villain necessarily needing to have a scheme for world dominance going at the same time.
 
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BlackDragon98

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Eh... this doesn't feel very true to the original inspiration, really? I mean, if you're going to go that route, then you could also just remove Skull totally, because IMO he wouldn't be adding much here as a standard villain.

Heroes and Villains have cooperated in Marvel to stop greater threats before without the Villain necessarily needing to have scheme for world dominance going at the same time.
When Dark Phoenix shows up, lol.

BTW the movie was awful and an excellent example of go woke, go broke.
 

BlackDragon98

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If Cap was around then he'd be too redundant, but if Cap's dead, US Agent (John Walker) might be an interesting character.

I sort of feel like Skull should be bringing a few Hydra (or ex-Hydra) people with him too, maybe Zemo?
In my file, it said that HYDRA went against Schmitt to become the controlled opposition for the woke heroes.
AKA, the woke heroes tell where to attack and when and that they always have to lose. In exchange, they won't get imprisoned or mindfucked.

The Red Skull and his Werwulfs are immune to telepathic attacks by way of a heavily modified strain of the Techno-Organic virus that Bruce Banner created for them before his untimely capture in battle (by She-Hulk no less) and execution (he was flown into the sun).
Banner: "Exile me and I will become stronger than you can ever imagine. Just like last time."
Danvers: "We don't make mistakes, Banner." *Presses launch button*

Red Hulk and Red She Hulk are both alive and part of the Werwulfs.

On another note, the fate of Rogue (Anne Marie).
Since Danvers and her had serious personal beef, she imprisoned in the Negative Zone and repeated tortured both physically and mentally by Danvers, who comes to visit ever so often (this reflects the pettiness of the whole woke movement).
Gambit is with the resistance and holds out hope that Rogue is alive, though everyone else believes her to be dead.

Deadpool is also imprisoned and his mind in put in a simulation. One of the operations launched by Werwulf has a tertiary objective of liberating Mr. Wilson.

Oh and I almost forgot.
The setting of this AU Earth (Earth-1984), is 10 years after the woke heroes have won and taken over.
America now stretches across both Americas, Arctic islands like Greenland and half of the Pacific.
China now controls all of Asia, including Russia east of the Urals, the other half of the Pacific, the Indian subcontinent, Australia and Oceania.
European Union has control over all of Europe, Russia west of the Urals, and Iceland
Africa is a giant penal colony (gulag), where dissidents and none-human looking superhumans (mutants and otherwise) from all three superpowers are sent. It's run by Black Panther and Storm from the Wakanda District, aka District X. (A reflection of the so called tolerance and what the X-Men have become in recent days)
Namor remains neutral but covertly aids the Werwulfs, knowing that the enemy is preparing for an offensive against Atlantis soon.

Every now and then, a controlled war breaks out between two of the 3 powers and after a while, the 3rd power steps in to negotiate a unfair treaty that results in them getting attacked by the wounded party of the treaty. And then the whole thing repeats, creating perpetual war and distracting the plebs from the real problem.

That's it for now.
 

Knowledgeispower

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Meanwhile I've decided that one Steiner Scout Lance isn't enough to fix the situation so I'm sending in a hundred of them and the yahoos of Red Wood Industries
 

Urabrask Revealed

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The Lyran Commonwealth's contribution to freeing the people of Earth in @BlackDragon98's fic proposal of course. We can't have Red Skull be the only German major character. Frederich and all of his pals shall do their part. As for Red Wood Industry do you play or watch Space Engineers?
I think the fic should be restricted to Marvel alone, not be made a crossover with other franchises.
 

LindyAF

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Hmmmm... who'd be some good woke superheroes? We talk about them a bunch, but I don't think I've seen them ever really put in one place, and I think the woke superhero roster would need filling out a bit. I think thematically it makes sense to have the woke superheroes adopting the old school one's names.
 

Bear Ribs

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Hmmmm... who'd be some good woke superheroes? We talk about them a bunch, but I don't think I've seen them ever really put in one place, and I think the woke superhero roster would need filling out a bit. I think thematically it makes sense to have the woke superheroes adopting the old school one's names.
I think the Wokest of the Woke are probably Snowflake and Safespace.
 

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I mean, Captain Marvel is a pretty obvious one, who actually acts like a fascist and actually locked up teenagers in a secret prison of hers for thought crime.
Come to think of it, did she ever state how long these people would be imprisoned, or was it just "Forever, until the sun burns out, and even then we will drag them off the planet to continue holding them!"?
 

LindyAF

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I think the Wokest of the Woke are probably Snowflake and Safespace.

They haven't really been used anywhere though, and given the pushback I doubt they ever will be.

Carol Danvers is a good example, but I think the roster needs a little filling out?

The woke successors to the big names I'm aware of are
America Chavez (Ms. America) as a successor to Captain America
Rici Williams (Ironheart) as a successor to Tony Stark (Iron Man)
Amadeus Cho (Hulk) as a successor to Bruce Banner (Hulk)

Not quite a big name, but Kamala Khan (Ms. Marvel) is an honorable mention here. However, the issue here is that these are all basically the junior league heroes, so they'd need to be either aged up, or supplemented with older characters on the woke side running things.

Arguably Jane Foster (Thor) as the new Thor sorta fits here as a woke remake who isn't a teenager, but I don't think she'd really fit as a straight villain here- it might be better if she was being forced or manipulated into it, or being controlled somehow.

I think they should probably grab some of the woke-aligned villains too, Flag Smasher in particular would be a good person to add.
 
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Typhonis

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For Earth -1984. "I have to admit. Your New World Order stinks to high heaven. The same hypocrisy with a nice big assed Socialist Bent that everyone knows does not work. The truly racist people are in charge and you waste resources fighting pointless little wars to disguise your failings as leaders. Well, it is all going to end soon."

"You see, to the shock of everyone. I made a friend and he has told me oh so many fun facts. So much data and information we have shared. We are going to bring your pathetic little house of cards down about your ears and there is nothing you can do to stop us. The two of us are a big assed blind spot for Charles and Jean and they both know it. Meanwhile, we have multiple ways to kill them."

So, watch the skies, keep your ears open. Because unlike you I am not racist and I plan to deal with all humans in an equal manner. My friend's name? Nimrod. I am Ultron and we are working together. Goodbye."
 

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