Culture (Cringey) Excellence in Games Journalism 101

Husky_Khan

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Powerful Article by The Verge, archived link below.

They call Steven Crowder a racist right in the title as his only adjective then start their story on an unrelated subject of YouTube taking down a Crowder video for allegedly spreading Covid misinformation. The article doesn't have any quotes from the taken down video of course but what ev.

 

Husky_Khan

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Zack Snyder, the famous film Director, was the guest on a Livestream event hosted by Uche Nwaneri, a Geeks+Gamers contributor. In his opening remarks, Zack Snyder said that his film wasn't associated with Geeks + Gamers... then (awkwardly) made a comment afterwards that he wanted to speak out against hate because of the recent spate of Anti-Asian American violence going on and the fact he has an Asian daughter. Uche and the other livestreamers agreed with Zack's comments sympathetically.

However, numerous other games journalists, who apparently loath how outspoken and contrarian Geeks+Gamers or at least its founder, Jeremy, can be, decided to ignore all of that and instead publish a story titled:
Zack Snyder Rips Alt-Right YouTube Channel Geeks + Gamers on ‘Justice League’ Livestream

The Archived link to The Wrap story can be found here: https://archive.is/Sg7c3

Needless to say, the misinterpretation was taken poorly by the actually diverse set of Geeks+Gamers contributors.







The Wrap article left out the fact that Zack Snyder wasn't "ripping" into Geeks+Gamers nor that the livestream event was actually a charity stream that raised around $100,000 dollars for suicide prevention (which caused the death of Snyder's Daughter Autumn and caused him to remove himself from the Justice League movie in the first place). Regardless they got a shoutout from Gina Carano, which should trigger people even more.



Geeks+Gamers has been targeted recently as an 'alt right' haven for some of them having been skeptical of Star Wars movies and endorsing the SnyderCut and other White Supremacist actions.
 

Husky_Khan

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It's always weird when Men ask rhetorical questions of their own sex like they don't know...



With that said, still not a fan of the new design. Does seem pretty cheesecakey but whatev.
 

Bear Ribs

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It's always weird when Men ask rhetorical questions of their own sex like they don't know...



With that said, still not a fan of the new design. Does seem pretty cheesecakey but whatev.

Still better than Kiss Players.

But that design is pretty cringey.
 

ParadiseLost

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Its also not licensed by Hasbro, so its basically the equivalent of getting outraged over a Harry Potter fanfic.

Its also misleading because the statement about Arcee being the "first female transformer" implies that her introduction is recent, she's the only one, and there is her original design. None of those things are true.

Basically its fake news / manufactured outrage.
 

Cherico

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Returnal which is a PS5 exclusive, is hitting the shelves and games "journalists" both their review copies but there's a problem.



Sadly many of these brave and courageous games journalists are apparently too traumatized to properly write a simple game review. 😢


maybe they should be replaced with some one who can do their job?
 

Husky_Khan

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Filthy Toxic Mass Effect fandom, demanding a better ending for the franchise of which they spent several years and over two hundred dollars investing in!



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CNet said:
BioWare ran a poll on its website asking fans if they were happy with the ending, and well over a million people voted. Only 2% said yes.

And unfortunately, EA and BioWare responded in the worst possible way: They made their own galaxy-defining choice. EA and BioWare sacrificed their authorial intent and rewrote the game's ending, giving in to the baying mob.

A precedent had been set. The internet became keenly aware that if it didn't like a work of fiction, or took issue with a creative decision, that work could be altered, that decision unmade. By pure force of will and just... noise. A savage, obnoxious wail that threatened to consume all light and reason.

Storytelling by committee -- or by 4Chan thread -- was about to begin in earnest. We're seeing the results of that choice now.
Take Star Wars and The Rise of Skywalker. After fans raged against The Last Jedi -- a movie that challenged established Star Wars tropes and pushed back against fan expectations -- the creatives behind The Rise of Skywalker also buckled, pandering to fans in the worst possible way. Removing the agency of characters fans didn't like, undoing bold plot choices. The Rise of Skywalker transformed the Star Wars universe into something far less challenging and, ultimately, turned it into something banal.

TLDR: You don't like the Mass Effect ending? Are you Alt Right?
 

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Filthy Toxic Mass Effect fandom, demanding a better ending for the franchise of which they spent several years and over two hundred dollars investing in!



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TLDR: You don't like the Mass Effect ending? Are you Alt Right?


I'm trying to remember if this pre ME 3 era where mass market media producers regularly said "here's our thing, if you don't like it than too bad, this is our artistic vision" ever actually existed, and I'm coming up blank. Media companies have always been sensitive to consumer feedback, because films and games made as art have always been in the minority compared to those made as products, and ME was very much the latter.
 

ParadiseLost

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I'm trying to remember if this pre ME 3 era where mass market media producers regularly said "here's our thing, if you don't like it than too bad, this is our artistic vision" ever actually existed, and I'm coming up blank. Media companies have always been sensitive to consumer feedback, because films and games made as art have always been in the minority compared to those made as products, and ME was very much the latter.

If anything its the opposite.

Consider HBO allowing Zach Snyder to publish Justice League to HBOMax in 4:3 format like he wanted.
 

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"Mass Effect is bad because Shepard is a space cop, and if we allow the existence of a single bit of fiction that suggests cops aren't evil that means the nazis win" is.....uh, quite a take.

Like, there is a point to be made about mass effect and the idea of using unaccountable operatives who are set above the law as enforcers of an even less accountable galactic government, and what that premise says both about the setting and about us that we just nodded along with it and went "cool, that sounds fun", but the article completely misses it because it's so monomanically focused on the current year narrative about police.

Sheppard is not a cop. Cops have rules they have to follow, superiors they have to answer to, elected officials (and through them, they public) that they are accountable to. Shepard does not, he can do basically whatever he wants and face no reprocussions for it whatsoever. During Thane's loyalty mission, you can execute a hostage in order to protect the hostage taker, an assassin that was trying to kill that guy, because you want to help Thane reconcile with his son and letting his son eat a murder charge would be inconvenient. You face zero reprocussions from doing that, you are in fact legally allowed to do that. You get a Badsss one liner for doing that.

You could write an amazing essay about how mass effect conceptualizes power and how it portrays its use, how we'll overlook a horrifyingly authoritarian system so long as it's sold to use as being done by the right people, how some surface level crap about equality and tolerance hoodwinked progressive players into not seeing the inherent flaws of the overall system.......but no, we get "space police man bad".
 

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"Mass Effect is bad because Shepard is a space cop, and if we allow the existence of a single bit of fiction that suggests cops aren't evil that means the nazis win" is.....uh, quite a take.

Like, there is a point to be made about mass effect and the idea of using unaccountable operatives who are set above the law as enforcers of an even less accountable galactic government, and what that premise says both about the setting and about us that we just nodded along with it and went "cool, that sounds fun", but the article completely misses it because it's so monomanically focused on the current year narrative about police.

Sheppard is not a cop. Cops have rules they have to follow, superiors they have to answer to, elected officials (and through them, they public) that they are accountable to. Shepard does not, he can do basically whatever he wants and face no reprocussions for it whatsoever. During Thane's loyalty mission, you can execute a hostage in order to protect the hostage taker, an assassin that was trying to kill that guy, because you want to help Thane reconcile with his son and letting his son eat a murder charge would be inconvenient. You face zero reprocussions from doing that, you are in fact legally allowed to do that. You get a Badsss one liner for doing that.

You could write an amazing essay about how mass effect conceptualizes power and how it portrays its use, how we'll overlook a horrifyingly authoritarian system so long as it's sold to use as being done by the right people, how some surface level crap about equality and tolerance hoodwinked progressive players into not seeing the inherent flaws of the overall system.......but no, we get "space police man bad".
They do know games like L.A. Noire exst where you play as a cop right?
and the SWAT series, and the R6 series
 

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