Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
It shouldn't matter, the vulnerabilities are the vulnerabilities, no matter who is trying to exploit them

Neither group has shown any interest in hacking election results, though. The Russians engaged in election interference certainly, but I have never seen any evidence that they manufactured votes for Trump or anything like that. There is a big difference between trying to foment chaos through social media and actually trying to change results.
No it should matter to Americans who do care about their votes. It determines whether they go to war or be forced to pay more taxes and endure more lockdowns.
 

mesonoxian

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No it should matter to Americans who do care about their votes. It determines whether they go to war or be forced to pay more taxes and endure more lockdowns.
No, I mean it shouldn't matter as an issue of security. The defenses don't get weaker if the hackers take their money Winnie rather than Putin.

I don't think we should be okay with one group hacking results and not the other. Fortunately, I don't see any evidence either nation did anything to the actual results.

And (God willing) hopefully we won't have to worry about lockdowns if the vaccine is as effective as it looks.
 

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
No, I mean it shouldn't matter as an issue of security. The defenses don't get weaker if the hackers take their money Winnie rather than Putin.

I don't think we should be okay with one group hacking results and not the other. Fortunately, I don't see any evidence either nation did anything to the actual results.

And (God willing) hopefully we won't have to worry about lockdowns if the vaccine is as effective as it looks.
Not for you but others are more active expressing their concern.
 

JagerIV

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Eh, historically theyre generally seem to prefer to let even a clearly fraudulent election stand than overturn one. Especially since it normally takes till post transfer of power happened, and the people who cheated are rarely willing to push all that far in inveatigating themselves.

Once he got the votes in, its always way, way harder to get them undone. Fraud is very hard to turn arround mid fraud.
 

Doomsought

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Eh, historically theyre generally seem to prefer to let even a clearly fraudulent election stand than overturn one. Especially since it normally takes till post transfer of power happened, and the people who cheated are rarely willing to push all that far in inveatigating themselves.
That is how you give a coup all the justification it needs to ignore the legalsystem and take ruelrship by force.
 

lordmcdeath

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That is how you give a coup all the justification it needs to ignore the legal system and take rulership by force.

That isn't happening. The officer core has never liked him, and he's basically squandered most of his good will with the rank and file. Selling out the Kurds, both not bringing the troops home and then doing so abruptly, and dealing with the Taliban aren't things to really make you popular. Nor was stationing troops in Saudi Arabia for all that helps him from a foreign policy perspective.

You would need to pull a significant majority of the troops stationed domestically and most of their command structure to have a hope in hell of actually managing it along with the support of large minority of the populace and the passiveness of the majority. And they aren't getting any of that.
 

Doomsought

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Whether or not it succeeds, it needs to happen. The great reset is a tyranny that must be resisted by force. Every part of the ruling class that supports it or even is merely complicit needs to be killed. If they aren't, we are going back to serfdom for the next few hundred years.
 

Cherico

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Whether or not it succeeds, it needs to happen. The great reset is a tyranny that must be resisted by force. Every part of the ruling class that supports it or even is merely complicit needs to be killed. If they aren't, we are going back to serfdom for the next few hundred years.


in 2022 the baby boomers start retiring in mass, in most of the industrialized world and much of the third world they do not have a replacement generation. Which means that the era of cheap investment money and cheap global credit is over for generations at the very least.

The boomers go from a fincial asset to a fincial liability because they will demand the same social safety net they paid into their entire lives and now you have to pay for all of that and pay for your police state at the same time. And survialence states are incredibly expensive.

In my view no, the great reset doesnt last hundreds of years it would be a phase of about 20-40 years of incredible mismanagement, tyranny and bloodshed before the system collapses under its own weight. Of course a lot of us will die under said regime but then again it always sucks to be a dissident.
 

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