Quest Eleftheria I thanatos; A Greek monarchy CKII Quest

Hlaalu Agent

Nerevar going to let you down
Founder
I had forgotten to add the genius traits.
12 as a base stats is above average, though it is nothing extraordinary.
20 as base stats, Which is the highest you can get without traits mean you are already an expert.

I am using a modified ember in the dusk stats system to differentiate skill levels.

Education would be a trait bonus right? Just wondering how it would all stack. So that we don't lose any points. Though if it were a straight bonus we'd only lose one on personal combat, and I'd say we'd still be awesome all around.

So I don't think lowering anything to boost something is of benefit.
 

Arlos

Sad Monarchist
Education would be a trait bonus right? Just wondering how it would all stack. So that we don't lose any points. Though if it were a straight bonus we'd only lose one on personal combat, and I'd say we'd be awesome all around.

So I don't think lowering anything to boost something is of benefit.
Education is a Trait, yes.
 

Hlaalu Agent

Nerevar going to let you down
Founder
Education is a Trait, yes.

Good. So I think the plus one overall would be best then. Though to be clear, I am discussing this, because I want to convince everyone else that this is the best choice so that I can sway votes to my side.
 

Arlos

Sad Monarchist
Good. So I think the plus one overall would be best then. Though to be clear, I am discussing this, because I want to convince everyone else that this is the best choice so that I can sway votes to my side.
You may discuss it as much you want, discussions makes me happy.
I try not to say too much in order to not affect the vote.
 

wowow2264

New member
[X] Your parents were already preparing you for leaderships and they gave you a well rounded education to help you in that regard, though they didn't expect you to be King... you think.

I LOVE making generalist instead of the more popular specialists and I can't see how our character can be better suited for being a generalist right now. as a side note I am terrible at naming things so someone should come up with a name so we don't have a incredibly out of place name like this:
[X] Bob
 

Hlaalu Agent

Nerevar going to let you down
Founder
Well, we could call our character Rovertos which is a Greek form of the name and it easily could provide for a backstory, such as being named for a foreign friend of the family.

Though, I think I found one that might work, nobility, possible descent from the Phokas dynasty, and roots in Crete...

[x]Nikephoros Kallergis

Though, this is just me trying to hack a name together from some quick research.
 
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Blasterbot

Well-known member
[X] You learned the arts of numbers and how administration.
[X]Andrew Kallergis
Don't have a better idea on the last name but Andrew is a greek name so it should work. on the ability raises I agree that the +1 all is a solid buff but I would prefer a stewardship focus. we have solid stats all around with a slightly weak martial. my build will lower our spycraft to match it but we would gain a 24 stewardship that is a solid number to allow us to build up our economy and infrastructure to really take advantage of the coming industrial revolution.
 

prinCZess

Warrior, Writer, Performer, Perv
[X] Your parents were already preparing you for leaderships and they gave you a well rounded education to help you in that regard, though they didn't expect you to be King... you think.

[x]Nikephoros Kallergis
 

gral

Well-known member
[X] Your parents were already preparing you for leaderships and they gave you a well rounded education to help you in that regard, though they didn't expect you to be King... you think.

[x]Nikephoros Kallergis
 
Turn 1

Arlos

Sad Monarchist
QM note: So, I got around to finally writting an update for this as I slowly work out the system, enjoy(hopefully)


You are Nikephoros Kallergis, heir of the ancient Kallergis family, supposedly related to the Byzantine Imperial line of Phokas and mighty noble house of the great isle of Crete, and now King to the newly independent Kingdom of Greece.

And you are tired.



You were not to be the original leader of your people, but countless deaths and time have made you so.



After nearly a decade of war, of suffering shared with your people, of massacres and bloodbath erstwhile unknown to you, of hope and despair, the tide seemed to have finally turned against you, Greek valor faltering against the crushing weight of Imperial might as your initial victories against the Ottomans turned into a desperate defense facing an ever victorious Egyptians Army, the independence of your people seeming to drift ever farther away.



So you were ashamed to admit the relief you felt when the Great powers Troika called for a conference in regard to the Greek Question.



When you went to London, you had no delusion about how things would go; You were effectively beaten, any and all decision in regard to your country’s future would be in the hands of the people sitting at the conference negotiating on behalf of their own nations interests…



Still, you would call your self-control during the event nothing short of legendary, a result, perhaps a result of your good breeding.



It was very clear from the beginning that you were an unpleasant addition to the conference for many, an obstacle to their objectives, as a matter of fact, had it not been for your somewhat renowned and ancient lineage, you suspect any others Greek leading the nation would have been purely and simply not invited to participate, or even been acknowledged as a leader of the Greek people.



As it is it barely allowed you to make the cut into the conference, you still had to fight all comer for the throne of Greece, with every nation putting forward a contender for its throne.



Eventually it is the natural wariness great power have toward each other that allowed you to cling to leadership; more so than your skill, you were considered a bit more “neutral” despite your apparent lack of dedication toward any of their interests, most likely, they thought they could work around you.



Of course, your “independence” came with strings attached, first of all, Britain, France and Russia decided to “help” you build a true military by hiring, on your behalf, 3000 mercenaries, drawing men from their three nations, to be stationed in your new capital. Of course, the reason those mercenaries were hired tie in with the second string.



Secondly, the British insisted you repay the loans the now defunct Hellenic republic took in 1824 and 1825 in order to finance the war, all interest included, never mind that they sold 100 Pound bond for 60 Pound. When you pointed you utter incapability to pay, they just smiled jovially and explained that they understood the situation Greece found itself in and would give you another substantial loan in order to improve Greek economy, before placing before you the most Odious loan you ever had the displeasure of seeing.



The Loan was as such:



Loan Guaranteed by the Troika of Russia, Great Britain, and France, 60 000 000 Gold Franc, or 44 500 000 Gold drachma.



Commission and fees paid to the French Rothschild bank: 5 Million.



Interest in advance on the loan for the period of 1833 to 1835: 7,6 million



Compensation to the Ottoman Empire for the territorial loss of Greece: 12,5 million



Debt repayments for the negotiations and guarantee on the loan to France, Great Britain and Russia; 2 million



Recruitment and traveling expenses for the mercenaries: 3,3 million



Purchase of military equipment: 1 million



Total: 31 400 000



Leaving you with a total of 13 100 000 Gold drachma.



Feeling the greatest humiliation of your life, and under the encouraging gaze of the other delegates, you signed the document that would shackle your country for the foreseeable future.



The third and last condition was that your newly created country must have some measure of constitutionalism, to your surprise, even the Russia agreed to this, no doubt, they were planning to influence your country through parliament, rather than the king, you could only fear what effect battle of influence between great power would have on your country.



The bone deep weariness you felt as you left made you briefly consider ending yourself, before duty and devotion put your mind back on track.



Yes, you had suffered great injustice, and your country future was more than uncertain.

Yes, you lost your ancestral home in Crete, pillaged and razed to the ground by angry Turks, your family paying the price for your treason.

Yes, the countryside was being ravaged by unparalleled lawlessness.

Yes, your country was now in a hole so deep, it may never see the light of day once again.



But, as you reached Greece yet again, and looked at the face gathering around to look at you passing, cheering you and themselves in their newfound Freedom, unknowing of the suffering ahead, you could not help but promise to yourself to do your absolute best.



Chose a capital:



[] Nafplio

[] Athens

[] Corinth



5 Actions +2 Taken away by parliament. May only choose 3 ministers.



Martial:After the beating you took at the hands of the Egyptian, the only thing of note that you have left is your fleet.





[] Arms deal(Upkeep dependent on Military size):Your armed forces has for long been made out of militia with barely any training and equipped with whatever could be found by them or the state, this situation deteriorated when the Egyptian armed shattered most of your coherent army formation, occupying most of the State of Greece territory and remaining Greek force were forced into guerrilla warfare; as it is now, Greece lack the mean to produce military equipment for itself, so any founding of a proper Greek army must first pass by an arms deal to supply it.



[] Find yourself a minister of the armed force:Getting someone who know what they are doing at the helm of the armed force ministry, you are limited by parliament in how many ministers you can choose yourself, choose wisely.



[] Build Barrack for the mercenaries (Cost 100 000): You have been forcibly saddled with a bunch of foreign mercenaries and they are to live with you in a capital, you cannot, unfortunately, get rid of them, even more unfortunate, whatever Capital you choose will have to house 3000 foreign soldiers, a difficult task considering you do not have a city of more than 10 000 inhabitants.



[] Expand military academy (Cost 200 000, upkeep 40 000): Officer are the core of a modern army, during the decade long war of independence, the first Hellenic Military school was founded; the Evelpidon, in order to answer the need for good officers for the Greek army, expanding it could increase the numbers of officers formed each year, an important thing for any army expansion.



[] Fund Naval Academy (Cost 300 000, upkeep 70 000): Despite the good showing of the navy during the war, most of its officer were formed in the Evelpidon; a school created to form land officers, a less than optimal situation.



[] Build Ships:Greek have a history of mercantile shipping, even under the Ottoman it held true, your country may be backward in most place, but what skilled labor you have are mostly expert shipbuilder in the Aegan Islands, you have a very competitive industry, at least as far as sail ship goes.

-[] Frigate (Cost 80 000 Upkeep 15 000)

-[] Brick (Cost 40 000 Upkeep 9 000)

-[] Corvette (Cost 20 000 Upkeep 3800)

-[] Schooner (Cost 10 000 Upkeep 1500)



[] Buy Ships:New technology have been appearing in the west, Boat working on steam, and out of your area of expertise, they would make fine addition to your fleet, but are expensive in comparison to local product.

-[] Gunboat (Cost 120 000 Upkeep 35 000)

-[] Steam Ship (Cost 350 000 Upkeep 70 000)



[] Write-in



Diplomacy: A nation cannot survive alone, it is more true for Greece than for others, alliance of convenience, trade deals, converging interests all make up international relations, use it well.

[] Trade talk: Trade deal

-[] With who? About what?



[] Find yourself a minister of foreign affair: Getting someone who know what they are doing at the helm of the ministry of foreign affairs, you are limited by parliament in how many ministers you can choose yourself, choose wisely.





[] The Lost Greeks (Cost 500 000): During the war, countless atrocities were perpetrated against, such as the massacre of Chios, were countless were killed and thousands enslaved by the Ottomans, currently, tens of thousands of those people still circulate in the Empire as slave, you shall get them back, by lobbying the great powers, greasing wheel, or direct diplomatic entreaties, no matter the methods you need to employ ,no Greeks shall be slave ever again.



[] Expulse the Turks and the Muslims:The war of independence has seen a great number of ethnic and religious, both against the Greeks and Orthodox in the Ottomans part of the empire, and against the Turk and Muslim in Greek territory, by now, most of those are dead of have left your territory, but there is still tension and your people are clamoring to expulse the remnant and seize their land and wealth.



[] Write-in





Stewardship:Your economy is nearly 90% carried by your agricultural sector that still use tool and farming method dating back to hundreds, if not thousands of years, your only modern industry being shipbuilding, to top it off you currently do not even have the capacity to perceive taxes.





[] Restore the function of the State (Cost 700 000 Upkeep 20% revenues): Your administration is in a sorry state, partially gutted during the first day of the war when your people threw off Ottomans rule, it was slowly rebuilt over the course of the war only to be destroyed once again by the Egyptians, as it is now, you have functionally no control over anything beyond the city boundary, no taxes collections, and an extremely anemic state apparatus, before you can try any serious reforms, you must remedy to those problem.



[]Find yourself a minister of the economy:Getting someone who know what they are doing at the helm of the ministry of economy, you are limited by parliament in how many ministers you can choose yourself, choose wisely.





[] Rebuild roads systems (Cost 600 000 Upkeep 80 000):Greece proper, even under the already underdeveloped Ottomans Empire, was considered something of a rural backwater, it had small city that might not even qualify for the name of town, upward to 95% rural population, and a road system to reflect that, with dirt road not being uncommon, the war and all its woes has only added to the problem, rebuilding the link between communities can only bring prosperity and unity.



[] Rebuild the cities (Cost 1 000 000 Upkeep 40 000): Hellenic city are far from glory past, destroyed and rebuilt again and again, it now bear the mark of Ottoman architecture and poor city planning, with Turkish bath spreading its odor all over the cities, it is perhaps time to destroy the legacy left behind, to rebuild them with an eye toward the future.



[] Write-in



Learning:The few center of Greek learning are outside your border, and previous government were more worried about survival than non-military education.



[] The Foundation of public schooling; Part one (Cost 200 000 upkeep 5% of revenues, duration 3 Turns): The only school you have are monastic school, linked to the patriarchate in Constantinople who is itself beholden to the Sultan, you have nothing, not even primary school teacher, so you’ll have to start from there; teaching people how to teach primary school students, wrestling with education is going to be a constant battle for decades to come.



[] Find yourself a minister of education:Getting someone who know what they are doing at the helm of the ministry of education, you are limited by parliament in how many ministers you can choose yourself, choose wisely.





[] Build Hospitals (Cost 200 000 Upkeep 30 000):You do not have many doctors, but you could build a modern hospital for those you do have, to heal the sick and tend to people.



[] Seek help from Greek center of learning (Cost 40 000):In the years preceding the war for independence, there was a resurgence in Hellenic sentiment amongst Greek people, from the highest Phanariotes to the lowest farmer, as such, many great center of learning were created by your people in place where they gathered and traded in great numbers, this eventually give rise to the nationalist sentiment that sparked the war for the creation of a Greek state. Unfortunately, none of those centers are within your borders, but you may yet seek their helps in order to build your nation and education system, their help would be particularly helpful in building university.



[] Contact the Philhellenist abroad for help: Money, knowledge, sympathy, those are all things your country desperately needs from Western nations in order to survive and grow, and what better way to obtain them than to build rapport with philhellenist? People who bear a love to Greece born from an Idealization of your antique past and contribution to the enlightenment.



[] Write-in



Piety:For a long time, your people have answered to the Patriarchate of Constantinople, since your ancestor were Emperor, unfortunately, today it is under the control of a foreign power that has shown no qualm using violence to make it bend, making it a risk for the Kingdom.



[] Receive your crown:Every King must go through a coronation ceremony before being recognized by his peers in Europe.

-[] Modest crowning (Cost 200 000):Your nation current financial situation does not allow you to be extravagant in your spending, it may affect your's and your nation's prestige but it is a necessary sacrifice.

-[] Acceptable crowning (Cost 500 000):The most expected option, Royalty and Nobility alike shall not think less of you for this, though they do not think much of you either way.

-[] Lavish Crowning (Cost 1 200 000): You shall tell everyone loud and clear that Greece is back, your crowning shall be talked about on every newspapers! It might not go over well for some people…



[] Recognize the Patriarchate:Recognize the Patriarchate of Constantinople as the legitimate on religion in the Kingdom of Greece; it would fly in the face of most reform started before your time, but you can certainly do it.



[] Holy Synod:On the other hand, you can formally reject the Patriarchate and establish a Holy synod on the Russian model, finishing reform started during the struggle for independence.



[] Write-in



Intrigue:Nothing to see here.



[] Gather troubleshooter (Cost 40 000 Upkeep 4000): You know that sometimes you may have the need to do questionable thing, either to protect your country, your throne or your life, assembling some people under your payroll from the more lawless part of society could help you take care or more unsavory matter.



[] Backroom dealing(Cost 60 000): Politics are not complex in Greece, there are only three political parties of importance; The French party, The British Party and the Russian Party, each them believe that Greek salvation lie in external help, and as such each of them help Greece by looking out for the interest of their very obvious foreign backers...by approaching politician outside the confine of parliament and public eyes, you may be able to slowly gather support for your policies, or even for a King’s party.



[] Get yourself a minister of the interior:Getting someone who know what they are doing at the helm of the ministry of the interior, you are limited by parliament in how many ministers you can choose yourself, choose wisely.







[] Hellenic Gendarmerie(Cost 800 000 Upkeep 5% of revenues): Like many a thing, law enforcement must be built from the ground up, it is especially important as Banditry run rampant in the countryside, beyond the confine of your power, with Kidnapping, ransom, armed assault and all kind of unsavory thing being done. Surprisingly, it is your foreign mercenaries, in particular the French, who came forward to propose a plan to create a gendarmerie similar to the French one to deal with those troubles.



[] Write-in



Personal actions: Sometimes, things require a personal touch, it is doubly so as a royal, where the personal and work are blurred together.



[] Pick up a Hobby:

[] What?



[] Seize absolute power: The parliament is a weakness to the nation, full of traitorous and self-centered people; seize power and abolish it, becoming an absolute monarch.



[] Speak to the People: Times are hard, and they may only get harder, addressing your people to let them now that you have not forgotten them may help them carry on throughout the difficult time.



[] Write-in


Debts: 44 500 000 GDR
Interest: Paid until 1835
Interest rate: 8,54%
Revenues:None
Treasury: 13 100 000 GDR
 

Blasterbot

Well-known member
[X] Organizing Our Cabinet

-[X] Corinth

-[X] Find yourself a minister of the armed force: Getting someone who know what they are doing at the helm of the armed force ministry, you are limited by parliament in how many ministers you can choose yourself, choose wisely.

-[X] The Lost Greeks (Cost 500 000): During the war, countless atrocities were perpetrated against, such as the massacre of Chios, were countless were killed and thousands enslaved by the Ottomans, currently, tens of thousands of those people still circulate in the Empire as slave, you shall get them back, by lobbying the great powers, greasing wheel, or direct diplomatic entreaties, no matter the methods you need to employ ,no Greeks shall be slave ever again.

-[X] Find yourself a minister of the economy: Getting someone who know what they are doing at the helm of the ministry of economy, you are limited by parliament in how many ministers you can choose yourself, choose wisely.

-[X] The Foundation of public schooling; Part one (Cost 200 000 upkeep 5% of revenues, duration 3 Turns): The only school you have are monastic school, linked to the patriarchate in Constantinople who is itself beholden to the Sultan, you have nothing, not even primary school teacher, so you’ll have to start from there; teaching people how to teach primary school students, wrestling with education is going to be a constant battle for decades to come.

-[X] Receive your crown: Every King must go through a coronation ceremony before being recognized by his peers in Europe.
--[X] Modest crowning (Cost 200 000):Your nation current financial situation does not allow you to be extravagant in your spending, it may affect your's and your nation's prestige but it is a necessary sacrifice.

-[X] Get yourself a minister of the interior: Getting someone who know what they are doing at the helm of the ministry of the interior, you are limited by parliament in how many ministers you can choose yourself, choose wisely.

-[X] Restore the function of the State (Cost 700 000 Upkeep 20% revenues): Your administration is in a sorry state, partially gutted during the first day of the war when your people threw off Ottomans rule, it was slowly rebuilt over the course of the war only to be destroyed once again by the Egyptians, as it is now, you have functionally no control over anything beyond the city boundary, no taxes collections, and an extremely anemic state apparatus, before you can try any serious reforms, you must remedy to those problem.

plan focuses on getting trustworthy people in our cabinet based on what I think is most important to keep foreign influence to a minimum. other decisions are about building up our image domestically. prioritizing our people and making sure they know we are working hard for them to try and keep things stable for now. we don't make too many big decisions this turn but when we get those ministers we can do more with what we got. we need to build up our economy or be crushed under these debts. I know little about the effects of where we place our capitol so corinth it is.
 
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