(Fallout) Presidential Faction War!

[Scooby Doo]

The Institute, led by Donald Trump
The Enclave, led by Obama
The NCR, led by Bill Clinton
Big MT/The Strip/Three Families led by Joe Biden.
Brotherhood of Steel West & East, led by George W Bush.


All factions and their resources/assets are teleported on a neutral continent with a Alpine type environment.

Their territories are placed 300 miles away from each other faction.


Which faction will win this free for all when led 100% by the actions of their President.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Oh a neutral continent. I was going to give Bush the favorite here due to being the most military friendly so he could woo the Enclave military elitists from Obama and his neoliberal world order because they'd rather serve Bushs Neoconservative world order. He'd also subvert the Minutemen whose founder fanboyism would've ripe for Tradcon subversion. Plus Preston Garvey as a Black Tradcon.

You would think Trump could contest Bush in the Commonwealth due to his Populist message but he'd broadcast something like how most Wastelanders are thieves, scavengers and mutants (all true) but some he assumes are good people. He'll try to win over his base by then broadcasting a picture of him eating Cook Cooks Fiend Stew captioned with him saying "I love Tribals!" Then he'll appoint a Black Courser for Minority Community Outreach. Plus Trump already defeated a Synth Leader in the form of Al Gore. GGWP.

Bush will have like at least eight years of soaring popularity before his Forever Wars drag him down. Maybe longer because his Forever Wars are against Supermutants, Raiders, Slavers and Synths. Plus there's no Israel but there is a New Canaan. He'll ally with those Mormonists and people will whine how Joshua Graham has been connected to Legion war crimes but no one will care yet. He'll subvert the Enclave, liberate New Vegas and then engage in the quagmire War with the NCR.

He might not win it but it's not like him losing meant Saddam Hussein came back to power. Clinton is likely screwed win or lose.

Bush loses his way to victory if there was no transportation to a neutral zone.

This entire post is off topic and should be reported and/or ignored.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Oh a neutral continent. I was going to give Bush the favorite here due to being the most military friendly so he could woo the Enclave military elitists from Obama and his neoliberal world order because they'd rather serve Bushs Neoconservative world order. He'd also subvert the Minutemen whose founder fanboyism would've ripe for Tradcon subversion. Plus Preston Garvey as a Black Tradcon.

You would think Trump could contest Bush in the Commonwealth due to his Populist message but he'd broadcast something like how most Wastelanders are thieves, scavengers and mutants (all true) but some he assumes are good people. He'll try to win over his base by then broadcasting a picture of him eating Cook Cooks Fiend Stew captioned with him saying "I love Tribals!" Then he'll appoint a Black Courser for Minority Community Outreach. Plus Trump already defeated a Synth Leader in the form of Al Gore. GGWP.

Bush will have like at least eight years of soaring popularity before his Forever Wars drag him down. Maybe longer because his Forever Wars are against Supermutants, Raiders, Slavers and Synths. Plus there's no Israel but there is a New Canaan. He'll ally with those Mormonists and people will whine how Joshua Graham has been connected to Legion war crimes but no one will care yet. He'll subvert the Enclave, liberate New Vegas and then engage in the quagmire War with the NCR.

He might not win it but it's not like him losing meant Saddam Hussein came back to power. Clinton is likely screwed win or lose.

Bush loses his way to victory if there was no transportation to a neutral zone.

This entire post is off topic and should be reported and/or ignored.

I think Bush would be good by convincing the Brotherhood to wage war against the NCR Bill Clinton and Trump Institute.

His base is all Militaristic so they'd love waging war.


Altho I noticed you forgot to acknowledge what Sleepy Joe would do 😉

 

[Husky_Khan]

Altho I noticed you forgot to acknowledge what Sleepy Joe would do 😉

If he wakes up from his pod and that's a big if, he'd have to put trusted Lieutenants in charge of the Three Tribes.

Beau Biden for the Chairmen. Which is actually a considerable improvement.

Kamala Harris as the cackling Cannibal Tribal who is now an Elitist in charge of the White Glove Society.

Big Milley and Little Austin in charge of the Omertas.

And unplanned, uninvited but too bad, Hunter Biden and the Fiends.

Finally there's Pete Buttigieg, the former Mayor of Boulder City whose incredible record as Mayor building infrastructure in Boulder City has now elevated him into being in charge of infrastructure in New Vegas. Nothing changes from it's appearance in game.

Jill Biden has been uploaded to a Securitron to handle all of Mr. Bidens "needs." Together this leadership council is known as "The Yes Myn."

The Biden Crime Families have several issues to overcome.

1. Caesars Legion.
2. The New California Republic Crime Families under Clinton.
3. The Mojave Brotherhood under Elder Arnold Schwarzenegger.
4. The Khans Blackmailing Hunter Biden with drugs and Hookers via Westside.
5. A Community of Communist Ghouls under Pelosi who want to be launched back to California.
6. Losing the support of the Boomer voters in the North.
7. His son and heir apparent Beau needs treatment but if the Courier can't cure him his head will explode or something.
8. While Kamala Harris isn't a cannibal much of her Society is grooming middle class children into becoming cannibals and poor Wastelanders their cattle.
9. The Crazy 80's interfering with Northern Trade Routes.
10. Denial of the Cazador Lab Leak Theory.

I don't think Biden can come close to navigating all these problems successfully.

Oh and did I forget he somehow FORGOT he had an entire Army of Securitrons under Fortification Hill? How did he manage that?!

 

[Scooby Doo]

Oh and did I forget he somehow FORGOT he had an entire Army of Securitrons under Fortification Hill? How did he manage that?!

Biden would be like, I thought it was Fornication Hill and that it belonged to Bill.

😂

 

[Agent23]

Trump wins.

He probably gets the Institute to build him a version of Liberty Prime which looks just like him, speaks in his voice and wins bigly.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Trump wins.

He probably gets the Institute to build him a version of Liberty Prime which looks just like him, speaks in his voice and wins bigly.

What about Sleepy Joe's BIG MT tech?

 

[Agent23]

What about Sleepy Joe's BIG MT tech?

Sleepy Joe just demands they make better hair for him to sniff.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Sleepy Joe just demands they make better hair for him to sniff.

Do you think the Big MT scientists will get along with him?

 

[Husky_Khan]

Do you think the Big MT scientists will get along with him?

Most of the Think Tank is too volatile and unpredictable to be reliable. Dr. Morbius is the only one that should be dealt with. Anything else might result in random Mojave cities crushed by satellites and geometric shapes inadvertently despite Biden being in control. Or turning citizens full cattle when he wanted them just to be more loyal.

Bidens faction IMHO is overall the weakest conventionally but has most potential IMHO.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Most of the Think Tank is too volatile and unpredictable to be reliable. Dr. Morbius is the only one that should be dealt with. Anything else might result in random Mojave cities crushed by satellites and geometric shapes inadvertently despite Biden being in control. Or turning citizens full cattle when he wanted them just to be more loyal.

Bidens faction IMHO is overall the weakest conventionally but has most potential IMHO.

Hmm don't you think Biden would be able to communicate with them flawlessly with how wacky his brain is?

 

[Husky_Khan]

Hmm don't you think Biden would be able to communicate with them flawlessly with how wacky his brain is?

Dr. Klein has too big of an ego.

Dr. Borous is too militaristic and be smeared as alt right or something.

Dr. Zero is too snarky and angry which would be fine if he was an ethnic minority, but he is not. Plus he's not a fan of Securitrons, that's a no-no since Biden's Wife is a Securitron, as I've already established.

Might get along pretty well with Dr. 8 though, unless you know, his voice module is working.

Dala would probably get along well with Biden. They seem to share some of the same interests. Borderline unhealthy fetishization of the Human body, brain lobotomies, genuinely believing in accomplishments they never actually achieved etc.

 

[Agent23]

Do you think the Big MT scientists will get along with him?

Well, he might provide good entertainment, I think he will fit quite well there, and they have all sorts of nice treats for him to try.

Although maybe there is a chance that he will be too out of it for even them to consider him normal.

I bet they will convince him that it is a good idea for them to remove his spine or something.

Brains, well most of his are gone, and he can get those sweet sweet drugs faster if he is floating in a jar I guess.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Dr. Klein has too big of an ego.

Dr. Borous is too militaristic and be smeared as alt right or something.

Dr. Zero is too snarky and angry which would be fine if he was an ethnic minority, but he is not. Plus he's not a fan of Securitrons, that's a no-no since Biden's Wife is a Securitron, as I've already established.

Might get along pretty well with Dr. 8 though, unless you know, his voice module is working.

Dala would probably get along well with Biden. They seem to share some of the same interests. Borderline unhealthy fetishization of the Human body, brain lobotomies, genuinely believing in accomplishments they never actually achieved etc.

Hmm, would Biden sniffing Dala cause violence or a new affair? 😂

Well, he might provide good entertainment, I think he will fit quite well there, and they have all sorts of nice treats for him to try.

Although maybe there is a chance that he will be too out of it for even them to consider him normal.

I bet they will convince him that it is a good idea for them to remove his spine or something.

Brains, well most of his are gone, and he can get those sweet sweet drugs faster if he is floating in a jar I guess.

Okay what are your thoughts on George Bush warmonger BOS and Bill Clinton NCR?

 

[Husky_Khan]

As for the thread itself... going by the rough "peak" of their power on the face of it, the Enclave would have the resources of the Oil Rig forces, Navarro and over East the forces based out of Raven Rock and Adams Air Force Base. Small but well equipped with like... at least dozens of Vertibirds plus some other random outposts with little detail on them. We know the NCR had enough forces to overrun Navarro with conventional forces though it might have been with Brotherhood assistance (though to that point we also know the NCR still defeated the Brotherhood as well conventionally). But the Enclave has the Bradley-Hercules Satellite Array with its missiles. There's only 45 missiles on board of course, so its not a clear winner but ol' O'Bomber can use it for decapitation strikes.

Even with the translocation, the Institute is pretty centralized in one location. Same with the Biden Crime Families though slightly less so. The Brotherhood has a lot of bunkers, the Citadel and the Prydwen so it'd be more spread out. And the New California Republic is the most spread out of all. Obomber's Enclave only has 45 missiles though so I think they'd target either the Biden Crime Families or the Institute. Eliminating Lucky 38 and Fortification Hill's bunker would nerf the Biden Crime Families but taking out The Institute of the Institute would really take them out of the running.

Plus Obomber would likely view Trump as the greater threat because its Trump, not his former running mate. I think the Enclave would target the Institute and severely degrade and devastate Trumps Institute from the onset. Then Obomber's Vertibirds would likely have comparable mobility that can only be challenged by Bush's Prdywen and Vertibirds. On a guess and assuming the Brotherhood has significant assets from the Western Brotherhood and Capital Wasteland, I think the Bush Brotherhood has the numbers advantage over the Enclave though.

But it's the New California Republic that is the lowkey military superpower here and Clinton is IMHO more politically astute than his interventionist rivals here. Clinton's NCR will have a lot to balance as to who to engage but he'd be more reactionary then proactive since he doesn't have fleets of Vertibirds at his beck and call. Plus he'll need to use most of his formidable military force to defend his own territory with garrisons and the like instead of attempting to march off and conquer new stuff. BUT I don't think any single faction can take on the NCR on its own. They'd have to team up to do so at least.

Maybe Biden and Obomber could work together but I don't know. If they can, they might win over the superior resources of Bush's Brotherhood and could be strong enough to focus on the NCR before Obomber backstabs Biden.

But while the OP doesn't say teamups are forbidden, it feels like this is a straight up versus. I think the New California Republic would play a defensive game, then slowly steamroll whatever is left over. So... Clinton's New California Republic for the win IMHO. "C'mere Tandi..."

 

[Agent23]

Hmm, would Biden sniffing Dala cause violence or a new affair? 😂


Okay what are your thoughts on George Bush warmonger BOS and Bill Clinton NCR?

They can probably do OKish, but neither is a person that I'd see running something that is in a permanent crisis, e.g. a post-apocalyptic civilization.

 

[Scooby Doo]

@Husky_Khan Ah but we have to remember even with the Bradley Hercules they may not have enough fire power to bust the Institute the main entrance is still several meters under ground and than more meters of steel and rock before you reach any personnel.


They'd also need exact coordinates other wise they're just leveling the outside building. Mean while Trump can have his MAGA Synths infiltrate the Enclave and indoctrinate them into his MAGA cult 😜

 

[Agent23]

They'd also need exact coordinates other wise they're just leveling the outside building. Mean while Trump can have his MAGA Synths infiltrate the Enclave and indoctrinate them into his MAGA cult 😜

Why isn't anyone writing this fic yet!?!?!

 

[Scooby Doo]

Why isn't anyone writing this fic yet!?!?!

 

[Husky_Khan]

@Husky_Khan Ah but we have to remember even with the Bradley Hercules they may not have enough fire power to bust the Institute the main entrance is still several meters under ground and than more meters of steel and rock before you reach any personnel.

The Bradley Hercules Bombardment isn't as impressive in game but it can reduce the Pentagon to ruins and the Pentagon... At least in real life, is a massive structure that is actually reinforced and hardened to a degree.

Plus the Satellite is described as being designed to penetrate and destroy hardened underground structures. I will agree that it could be hard to find. But I feel they're still the most vulnerable to an Alpha Strike so to speak.