EU General Italy Thread : Politics, Food, Tourism

Castiglioncello, Tuscany
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    View from the top of the coast and the beach of the village of Castiglioncello


     
    Property Prices In Italy
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    Property values in Italy are... a bit wild. A villa in Milan is cheaper than one in Los Angeles but more expensive than one in Lazio (Latium) or the ones in the South.

    The capoluoghi (capitals of each region of Italy) are usually the most expensive where to look for a house.

    Usually (like 4 out of 10 times) the less a place is well connected to a method of transportation the less is valued.

    My friend was passing on hearsay, so you are probably correct.
    I'm mildly sclerotic :) but the real estate he mentioned could had been in Italy's cheaper Mezzogiorno, like "20km outside of Rome"?

    That's not Mezzogiorno but still Central Italy. The price could be right because it is 20km outside of Rome and if there isn't a train station near by well she could be correct.
     
    News 1
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    Ukraine: Military aid makes expansion of war less likely says Crosetto - English

     
    News 2
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    The fascist bastard who threatened to flamethrow people during the COVID lockdowns and forbade people from doing basic thing and suing political critics is complaining the current government is sending weapons but there is not money for health. While he is right, it is rich coming from this cunt.


    There are rumours of the military draft being reintroduced.


    This cunt complain that Meloni didn't use the word fascism during the Day of Memory :


    Meloni also went to Tripoli, apparently and allegedly ENI is trying or has recovered its primacy in the Lybian industry sector.

     
    Istrian–Dalmatian exodus 1945 - Little known (outside of Italy) historical fact rarely mentioned in history books outside of the Bel Paese
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    Istrian-Dalmatian exodus was the diaspora or forced migration of ethnic Italians from Istria, Fiume, and Dalmatia, after World War II. Those territories were ethnically mixed since the Middle Ages. Most people were Italians, but there were also Slovenian, Croatian, Serbian and other communities.

    National Memorial Day of the Exiles and Foibe is Italian celebration in memory of all exiles and victims in massacres of Foibe: murdered and survived.

    Date1943–1960
    Location
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    Yugoslavia
    CauseThe Treaty of Peace with Italy, signed after the Second World War, assigned the former Italian territories of Istria, Kvarner, the Julian March, and Dalmatia to the nation of Yugoslavia
    ParticipantsLocal ethnic Italians (Istrian Italians and Dalmatian Italians), as well as ethnic Slovenes, Croats, and Istro-Romanians who chose to maintain Italian citizenship.
    OutcomeBetween 230,000 and 350,000 people emigrated from Yugoslavia to Italy and, in a smaller number, towards the Americas, Australia and South Africa.[1][2]

    Horror in Slovenia: Over 3,000 Bodies Discovered


    Skeletal remains of massacred victims at Macesnova Gorica, Slovenia

    In September 2022 a team of speleologists and anthropologists investigating the foibaof Macesnova Gorica, in Slovenia, reported that they had identified more than 3,000 bodies belonging to victims massacred by the Yugoslav Partisans of Communist dictator Josip Broz Tito.

    These were victims of the Kočevski Rog Massacre. In truth only a fraction of the victims, as the total number of people killed in this massacre could be as high as 30,000 people, buried in multiple different locations. This most recent investigation at the Macesnova Gorica site resulted in the recovery of over 3,000 skeletal remains.

    The bodies are mostly of adult men, but with a high percentage of children, namely young boys between the ages of 13 and 17. They are said to be primarily Slovenian civilians, though the presence of other nationalities – including Italians and Croats – can not be excluded.

    The victims were arrested in May 1945 by Tito's Partisans and detained in the village of Šentvid, near Ljubljana. after the war had already ended. Between June 9 and June 15 they were brought to Macesnova Gorica and dumped into deep pits known as foibe. According to the team, no less than 30 bodies were discovered in isolated tunnels, indicating that they had been thrown alive into the abyss and attempted to escape by dragging themselves into small openings of the crevice, only to die a slow and agonizing death beneath the earth's surface.

    Based on the experts' analysis of the remains, as many as 500 bodies had been dismembered as a result of explosives thrown onto the pile of bodies by the Yugoslav Partisans, in an attempt to kill the still-breathing victims and cause a collapse of the cave's walls in order to cover up the bodies.

    On September 28, 2022 the Bishop of Novo Mesto and President of the Slovenian Bishops' Conference Andrej Saje visited the horrific site.

    Visibly shaken, he stated the following after his visit:
    "I am deeply disturbed by the criminal acts that have been carried out here, and I express my expectation that the State and responsible authorities will ensure that all those who were violently murdered during and after World War II receive a dignified burial and have a place in the nation's historical memory."
    The largest cemetery in Slovenia's capital, Žale Cemetery, as well as the municipality of Ljubiana itself, have already rejected any notion of hosting the remains of the victims. This is quite reflective of a country that still refuses to come to terms with its past. Denialism of crimes and justification of brutalities is unfortunately very common in this region of Europe.

    This is far from the only skeleton in Slovenia's closet. The country is home to some of the largest mass graves in Europe, known as "silenced mass graves" (zamolčana grobišča) because for decades their existence was concealed from the public.

    It is estimated that in total there are over 700 different sites where Tito's Communist partisans killed, 'infoibed' or disposed of their victims' bodies in the period between May-September 1945. What has been uncovered at Macesnova Gorica is merely one of the hundreds of mass graves, connected to but one of innumerable massacres carried out by the Yugoslav Partisans.

    The Slovene-Yugoslav partisans also slaughtered thousands of Italians in the Foibe Massacres. They chased thousands more Italian civilians out of their homes in Istria and Julian Venetia, before repopulating the territory with Yugoslav settlers. Capodistria (Koper), the 5th largest city in Slovenia, was 92% Italian in 1900; now the Italians are less than 5% of the population, owing to the genocide conducted by those who today are still exalted as 'heroes' and 'liberators' in Slovenia.

    Slovenia is not yet prepared to admit or acknowledge how it treated its own people, let alone admit the role it played in the horrific crimes and ethnic cleansing perpetrated against the Italian population who lived in these lands since time immemorial – since before the Slovenes themselves did.

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    Trieste Part 2
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    Made In Italy Movies Part 1
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    @Buba @The Whispering Monk while looking for stuff for this thread I came across this.


    I don't know what is more surprising : that I liked, that is well made, that two Americans made a movie about truffle hunting in Piedmont or that it made a return!

     
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