Philosophy How We Got Here

Cherico

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Exactly! Wokery made a Star Wars film bomb. Bullshit the general public have any affection for the modern left. You know in Britain that football teams "taking a knee" gets booed when fans are actually allowed in the stands?

In general its a cult thats being forced upon the masses that the masses did not want or ask for.

You want tolerance people were willing to live and let live, wokery isnt however tolerance at all.
 

Aldarion

Neoreactionary Monarchist
Its going to be a long four years, it didn't have to be if the GOP had gotten off their butts and done their job, but the pain will increase until the pain of inaction is worse then the pain of action.

GOP are leftists. They basically do everything in their power to defend big corporations, big state and other elements of centralized power - just as Democrats do. There will be nothing good coming from GOP, they are merely DNC-lite at this point.
 

AnimalNoodles

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Not as uphill as you think, the democrats have mismanaged their power base in the cities for generations now and thats starting to hit. This is also the last year of cheap global credit because in 2022 the boomers start retiring and all of that cheap easy investment money that has been glutting the system vanishes for ever.

Their freaking out for a reason.

You still make the mistake of thinking that this is about economics.
 

Cherico

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You still make the mistake of thinking that this is about economics.

I'm looking at the economic core of their power, the fundamentals and the fundementals are getting more and more shaky. Propaganda and lies means less when there is less prospeirity. Its harder to hold together unwheildy coalitions who all want a piece of the pie as the pie not only shrinks but the demands for whats left of the pie grows.

There is oportunity and weakness there, it cant quite be capitalized on yet but the fundamentals are on our side.
 

AnimalNoodles

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There is plenty of pie to go around, lots of loot to be had. They will simply take what they need. Our system will go catabolic to keep the plunder flowing. The needed chokepoints are controlled, the proper constituencies will be given the power to abuse and humilate the Universal Class Enemy and power will be maintained. Its not about money, its about tribal power, humiliation and revenge.
 
I think the problem that has plauged conservatives since WWII is that conservatives we've clung to moral right by divinity/tradition for so long that we've allowed life to pass us by, while I do belive in a mandate of heaven, I'd argue what i've had many times before God's kingdom was never meant to be physical. His mandate is an indvidualistic moral code not a legislative mandate.

Conservatives have constanttly retreated under the guise of princabples and retreating with dignity and now that there is no where to run you have people wanting to tear down the system because "It doesin't work." it doesin't work because we've been apathetic towards it, and no government change is going to fix that. We have to engage in culture and beat the left at thier own game. No ,more retreating.
 

absenceofmalice

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it doesn't help that many on the right didn't find value in tech until the left really started using silicone valley to squeeze them, same goes with academia and theater. I'm limited by my own personal experience, but it seems like many a conservatives were perfectly resigned to being 9 to 5 laborer's until they realized too late just how disposable the labor class is. and now we are scrambling playing catch up because we've been engineered to be laborers since the age of four like good little meat slaves.
Conservatives dominated Academia and the arts and were pushed out by a concerted organized effort.
Also your distain for honest labor is sickening.
 

AnimalNoodles

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Conservatives dominated Academia and the arts and were pushed out by a concerted organized effort.
Also your distain for honest labor is sickening.

They were pushed out because they refused to fight. they showed no solidarity with each other and no willingness to embrace an ethic of power. Thats because they implicitly accepted the moral authority of their foes.
 

Cherico

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They were pushed out because they refused to fight. they showed no solidarity with each other and no willingness to embrace an ethic of power. Thats because they implicitly accepted the moral authority of their foes.


One look at how they have acted the last 20 years should tell you they have zero moral authority.
 

AnimalNoodles

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One look at how they have acted the last 20 years should tell you they have zero moral authority.

Conservatives accept it implicitly. An example is conservatives quoting or invoking MLK jr. MLK would have been pleased as punch with BLM.

Any conservative who reverently quotes Martin Luther King jr. accepts the leftwing moral framing.

A proper response is to deconstruct Mr. King, throw the pieces on the ground and take a dump on them. We must never accept thier idols, myths or values in an uncritical way. To do so is to accept thier moral framing.

Because conservatives accept leftwing moral framing they are unable to develop cogent moral arguments why they shouldnt be thrown into gulags.
 
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Aldarion

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Conservatives dominated Academia and the arts and were pushed out by a concerted organized effort.
Also your distain for honest labor is sickening.

Honest work simply doesn't work, not when you are faced with people who believe rules exist solely to be broken.
 

absenceofmalice

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They were pushed out because they refused to fight. they showed no solidarity with each other and no willingness to embrace an ethic of power. Thats because they implicitly accepted the moral authority of their foes.
Completely off the point I was arguing.

Honest work simply doesn't work, not when you are faced with people who believe rules exist solely to be broken.
How long have you been working 70 hours a week?
 
Conservatives dominated Academia and the arts and were pushed out by a concerted organized effort.
Also your distain for honest labor is sickening.

there won't be any honest work left if govenors and mayors bend the knee and allow antifa to rein havoc on the country side. our politcions need to be reminded they are our servants not our rulers.

Conservatives accept it implicitly. An example is conservatives quoting or invoking MLK jr. MLK would have been pleased as punch with BLM.

Any conservative who reverently quotes Martin Luther King jr. accepts the leftwing moral framing.

A proper response is to deconstruct Mr. King, throw the pieces on the ground and take a dump on them. We must never accept their idols, myths or values in an uncritical way. To do so is to accept their moral framing.

Because conservatives accept their moral framing they are unable to develop cogent moral arguments why they shouldn't be thrown into gulags.

I guess I need to brush up on my research as the only speech that comes to mind is the "I have a dream speech." I take it he's said stuff that has contradicted the sentiment of that speech?

How long have you been working 70 hours a week?


you'll be working a whole lot more for a whole lot less if the communist get their way and that's assuming they don't just replace you with a machine and put you in a ghetto somewhere. That's where we are heading, a world of two classes. the rich....and then everyone else, and it won't be a utopia where "everyone knows their proper place and fuction."
 

absenceofmalice

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but it seems like many a conservatives were perfectly resigned to being 9 to 5 laborer's until they realized too late just how disposable the labor class is. and now we are scrambling playing catch up because we've been engineered to be laborers since the age of four like good little meat slaves.
Honest work simply doesn't work, not when you are faced with people who believe rules exist solely to be broken.

Past tense, labor is slavery, labor was slavery, labor has been useless.

there won't be any honest work left if govenors and mayors bend the knee and allow antifa to rein havoc on the country side. our politcions need to be reminded they are our servants not our rulers.
you'll be working a whole lot more for a whole lot less if the communist get their way and that's assuming they don't just replace you with a machine and put you in a ghetto somewhere. That's where we are heading, a world of two classes. the rich....and then everyone else, and it won't be a utopia where "everyone knows their proper place and fuction."
Future tense, labor will be useless.


What does that have to do with winning a culture war? And centralized management - which is what Left wants - is the primary danger to ability to do a) a meaningful work and b) a work that pays.

Nothing but goalpost shifts, god.
 

Megadeath

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It's kinda hard to understand what any of the last posts have to do with social media platforms. It sorta feels like a few people are forgetting that political discussion is currently verboten and using any tangentially related subject to bring it up.
 

Aldarion

Neoreactionary Monarchist
It's kinda hard to understand what any of the last posts have to do with social media platforms. It sorta feels like a few people are forgetting that political discussion is currently verboten and using any tangentially related subject to bring it up.

Well, it does, because social media platforms are key weapons in a prpaganda war.
 

Megadeath

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Well, it does, because social media platforms are key weapons in a prpaganda war.
Uh huh... And? That social media can be relevant to culture war does not inherently make any discussion of culture war relevant to the discussion of social media. For example, when you said:
Honest work simply doesn't work, not when you are faced with people who believe rules exist solely to be broken.
What do you think that had to do with the initial post asking
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Have any of you given any of these platforms a try or have opinions on any or all of them? Are any worth checking out or joining?
 

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