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I agree that the timing is suspicious and I expect that it was an underhanded attempt to make Trump look bad. But that would be Jack Dorsey, not the Democratic Party that made that decision. Might they have put him up to it? Certainly. But he's got enough malice that he'd do it himself.
Fair point.

And that's why people like Nick Fuentes and his followers should be arrested.
Only the ones who have actually broken laws, not simply been in the crowd on the 6th.

I would argue that you should wait until 2022 to decide on that. Right now, the Trump baggage that is proven, is really only that he tends to stir up the Liberals and so they will turn out in larger numbers. There is a potential that he might be stuck with the Jan 6th riots and I expect that the Media will try and stick it on him, believing that if they take Trump out, they take out the populist movement. Or at least, the hope that this will diminish their power. Both neocons and neoliberals would prefer that.

Right now though, I don't think there's any real way to know how the public feels. Primarily because I think the public is sick of the lockdowns and politics. They had to basically sit in their house while people on the left and the right rioted. And I think there are a fair number of Trump voters, moderate and right-wing, who are angry that the two riots were treated differently by the core media. BLM riots were treated as only protests, where as the Capital Hill riot was treated as if it were 9/11. Right now, I think the public is more interested in enjoying their summer, the autumn, Thanksgiving, and Christmas.
That is a fair more optimistic outlook on the situation than I think is reasonable at this point.

So if Trump and his faction do well in 2022, then there's a chance that Trump is actually a favorable candidate. Because the communists and progressives are pissed at the rest of the Democratic party, so they may not show up. Because as far as they're concerned, there isn't much difference between Biden and Trump. And if they're going to get locked out of the Democratic apparatus, then why should they provide the Democrats with the votes?
I think Trump is better as gov of Florida, or as Speaker of the House, than back in the Oval. He has more freedom/a better shot at helping get DeSantis into office, while taking over the govship of Florida to keep it in GOP hands, or as Speaker, so he can really put the screws to their bullshit in the house and as a 'fuck you' to Pelosi.

Republicans have been introducing bills in states they control to combat that. And if there was cheating, the best time to ever do it was during the pandemic, because social distancing could be used as an excuse to limit witnesses. So unless there's a second pandemic in 2022 and a third in 2024, the Democrats aren't going to get that chance again.
That what the 'variants', 'boosters', and such are for, along with the new 'VaxToVote' shit they are pushing as a twisted way to screw with something Don Jr. said last summer.

The stole the 2020 election, and they are getting away with it in most regards; I do not share the rosy view of serious GOP gains in 2022 that many here seem to assume will happen.
Which is why I say to every one of you; get a fucking vaccine and encouraging others to get it. Because all you're doing is putting your fellow Republican voters in the hospital and giving the Democrats a built-in excuse to have COVID type restrictions. Republicans need to accept the loss and the bullshit of the last election and move forward.
They are already pushing 'credit' for the vaccines back to Trump, publishing articles about how the vaccines are not as effective as hoped, Israel has banned entry by vaccinated persons, and they are once again pushing for lockdowns and mask mandates.

They know the vaccines were mostly created that fast to try to bolster Trump, and the side effects that have been popping up...personally I'd rather have the virus (if I haven't already unknowingly had a mild case and dismissed it as allergies or such) than the vaccine. Wu Flu is endemic now; need to learn to live with it and adapt to it, rather than make everyone give up their civil liberities and civil rights indefinitely in a futile fight to stamp it out completely. As long as people live in fear of Wu Flu and let the govs do there bullshit, we will be giving this virus and those who have exploited it an undeserved victory.

There is a reason I have Okeer in my sig; we need to learn to live with and ignore Wu Flu as a species.
 
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The Original Sixth

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You had me until the very end.
I will only get the vaccine when the Military mandates it.
I do not willingly get shots anyway.

I don't expect to change your mind, but I highly, highly recommend you get it. Our vaccination program is what will allow the US to get a major advantage over the rest of the world and we are squandering it. The less vaccinations we take in the US, the more that get sent overseas. The more that get sent overseas, the larger the market China will regain. That's not even pointing to our military and economic capabilities. The US is experience a massive return, but we could suffer a second wave of COVID losses--specifically to Republican areas if you do not get your shot.

The vaccine is a weapon against the Wuhan and China. Fucking use it. Trump knew that, that's why he approved and single handedly funded the vaccination program. And the more the Republicans resist it, the more credit that Biden will get for Trump's work. Forget the Jan 6 riots, the biggest political threat to the Republican party from the past year is not getting vaccinated.

But, the Left will use the pandemic as much as they possibly can for years at this point.

They can't use it as an excuse if 80-90% of the population is vaccinated. Which is why I'm telling you, you really need to get this shot. I got J&J and I'm fine. My best friend got Moderna. She's fine.

Have you not seen what is going on in the world? Aussie? Iceland? They will most likely use COVID again and lockdowns to make Mail in voting on the same scale in 2022.

You know what I would do if I were a Democrat official right now? Knowing that the majority of Republicans--especially Trump Republicans aren't vaccinating, I'd demand that anyone who wants to get near a poll watcher has proof of vaccination. So yeah, if the Republicans don't vaccinate by 2022, you can bet your ass that the Democrats will have the opportunity to cheat again. Because they'll have enough of a justification to block you for the sake of "their health".

If you don't want to lose the next election hand over fist, I recommend you and others get the vaccine and keep proof that you have. So when our poll watchers want to actually do their job, they aren't laughed out of the building by the Democrats who'll dance around with their "six feet please" signs.

As for the rest of the world, the Europeans will probably not reach majority vaccination until the end of this or sometime next year. The second and third world are probably a year or so after that. I cannot stress enough how this is going to wreck their economies.
 

Zachowon

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I don't expect to change your mind, but I highly, highly recommend you get it. Our vaccination program is what will allow the US to get a major advantage over the rest of the world and we are squandering it. The less vaccinations we take in the US, the more that get sent overseas. The more that get sent overseas, the larger the market China will regain. That's not even pointing to our military and economic capabilities. The US is experience a massive return, but we could suffer a second wave of COVID losses--specifically to Republican areas if you do not get your shot.

The vaccine is a weapon against the Wuhan and China. Fucking use it. Trump knew that, that's why he approved and single handedly funded the vaccination program. And the more the Republicans resist it, the more credit that Biden will get for Trump's work. Forget the Jan 6 riots, the biggest political threat to the Republican party from the past year is not getting vaccinated.
I have had more things injected into me then damn near everyone here, and definitely more then most Americans. I had fucking Anthrax injected into me, and Small pox.
When Biden and the Dems are starting to push the Vaccine creation towards Trump, and may be mandating more and more shots for people, may even do more lockdowns, REGARDLESS of it

They can't use it as an excuse if 80-90% of the population is vaccinated. Which is why I'm telling you, you really need to get this shot. I got J&J and I'm fine. My best friend got Moderna. She's fine.
You really think that? They are bringing them back once again, and the most vaccinated states are some of the ones getting lockdowns.
You know what I would do if I were a Democrat official right now? Knowing that the majority of Republicans--especially Trump Republicans aren't vaccinating, I'd demand that anyone who wants to get near a poll watcher has proof of vaccination. So yeah, if the Republicans don't vaccinate by 2022, you can bet your ass that the Democrats will have the opportunity to cheat again. Because they'll have enough of a justification to block you for the sake of "their health".

If you don't want to lose the next election hand over fist, I recommend you and others get the vaccine and keep proof that you have. So when our poll watchers want to actually do their job, they aren't laughed out of the building by the Democrats who'll dance around with their "six feet please" signs.
You have a point, but when the media, and everyone you don't trust has straight up told you "GET IT GET IT GET IT!" you have everyone going "Uhhhh"
As for the rest of the world, the Europeans will probably not reach majority vaccination until the end of this or sometime next year. The second and third world are probably a year or so after that. I cannot stress enough how this is going to wreck their economies.
Iceland is at 75% and have said it will be 5 to 15 years before they return to normal.
 

Jaenera Targaryen

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With regard to vaccination against the Chinese Plague, I'm all for it. So long as it isn't Sinovac or any of the Chinese-made crap. Hell, I'd even settle for Sputnik.
 

Rocinante

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I don't expect to change your mind, but I highly, highly recommend you get it. Our vaccination program is what will allow the US to get a major advantage over the rest of the world and we are squandering it. The less vaccinations we take in the US, the more that get sent overseas. The more that get sent overseas, the larger the market China will regain. That's not even pointing to our military and economic capabilities. The US is experience a massive return, but we could suffer a second wave of COVID losses--specifically to Republican areas if you do not get your shot.

The vaccine is a weapon against the Wuhan and China. Fucking use it. Trump knew that, that's why he approved and single handedly funded the vaccination program. And the more the Republicans resist it, the more credit that Biden will get for Trump's work. Forget the Jan 6 riots, the biggest political threat to the Republican party from the past year is not getting vaccinated.



They can't use it as an excuse if 80-90% of the population is vaccinated. Which is why I'm telling you, you really need to get this shot. I got J&J and I'm fine. My best friend got Moderna. She's fine.



You know what I would do if I were a Democrat official right now? Knowing that the majority of Republicans--especially Trump Republicans aren't vaccinating, I'd demand that anyone who wants to get near a poll watcher has proof of vaccination. So yeah, if the Republicans don't vaccinate by 2022, you can bet your ass that the Democrats will have the opportunity to cheat again. Because they'll have enough of a justification to block you for the sake of "their health".

If you don't want to lose the next election hand over fist, I recommend you and others get the vaccine and keep proof that you have. So when our poll watchers want to actually do their job, they aren't laughed out of the building by the Democrats who'll dance around with their "six feet please" signs.

As for the rest of the world, the Europeans will probably not reach majority vaccination until the end of this or sometime next year. The second and third world are probably a year or so after that. I cannot stress enough how this is going to wreck their economies.
People still catch and pass covid even with the vaccine. It just makes the virus less dangerous.

If you're not in a high risk group and don't want to get it, it doesn't really matter.

If you're high risk, you should get it.

Luckily most high risk people have gotten it.

This brings down the total death rates. You can have spikes in infection rates without big spikes in death rates. That's pretty much what we have been seeing lately.

Pretty much, you vaccinate those at risk, and this becomes no more deadly than the flu or a bad cold.
 
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Rocinante

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Lol, fuck off, gamerant. I will play a man if I have the choice, and ogle the female's ass when I don't.
Lol, I don't even care what gender my video game character is. A lot of times if there's an option I'll pick the female, or make my avatar black, just because I'm not...sometimes I'll be a black woman just because I think it's funny. My Nintendo avatar is a black woman. whatever. I just don't think it matters.
 

Husky_Khan

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The Washingtonian just EXPOSED the Conservative right wing RAG Washington Examiner for their story on Mayor Muriel Bowser violating her own mask mandate by officiating a wedding were herself as well as many guests were without masks indoors.



That's right, the Washington Examiner reporter wasn't even INVITED to said wedding.

Kepp in mind... the original Washington Examiner article actually said as much:

Washington Examiner said:
When approached by the Washington Examiner to explain why she was maskless at an event now legally obligated to enforce mask compliance, security blockaded the free press.


What do you call it when you investigate a story about a subject which requires work and effort to be uncovered?

Is it called journalism?
 

bintananth

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This could turn out quite amusing, depending how the lefties who follow them react
The articles being referenced were written in 1900 back when encountering the kinds of casual racism which would get you banned here was a "day ending in '-y'", the Eugenics Movement was a thing, people were advocating for the forced sterilization of "undesireables", and there were proposals for human breeding programs.

Not exactly one of the brighter spots in human history.
 

Rocinante

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The articles being referenced were written in 1900 back when encountering the kinds of casual racism which would get you banned here was a "day ending in '-y'", the Eugenics Movement was a thing, people were advocating for the forced sterilization of "undesireables", and there were proposals for human breeding programs.

Not exactly one of the brighter spots in human history.
Right. And lefties today trash the founding fathers and other historical figures for racism and slave holding.

Will they hold the same standards for an institution that they like? (The obvious answer is no, but it'll be amusing to watch them excuse this away)
 

bintananth

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Right. And lefties today trash the founding fathers and other historical figures for racism and slave holding.

Will they hold the same standards for an institution that they like? (The obvious answer is no, but it'll be amusing to watch them excuse this away)
The vocal ones will raise a stink.

Most everone else will do like is done with the founding fathers: shrug and move on because the ones directly involved are all dead and they have better things to do than get their panties in a twist about a specific newspaper because all the others back then were just as bad or worse.
 

Abhishekm

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The articles being referenced were written in 1900 back when encountering the kinds of casual racism which would get you banned here was a "day ending in '-y'", the Eugenics Movement was a thing, people were advocating for the forced sterilization of "undesireables", and there were proposals for human breeding programs.

Not exactly one of the brighter spots in human history.
So what changed exactly? Other that the buzzwords used I mean.
 

S'task

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The vocal ones will raise a stink.

Most everone else will do like is done with the founding fathers: shrug and move on because the ones directly involved are all dead and they have better things to do than get their panties in a twist about a specific newspaper because all the others back then were just as bad or worse.
Except, they weren't just as bad?

There were plenty of newspapers in the 1860s that were Abolitionist, or pushed to allow for Blacks to vote and wouldn't have described allowing Blacks to vote as a "mistake" in the early 20th century. Granted most of them probably wouldn't have been called "Progressive" papers back in the day, but they did exist.

Long story short, the New York Times has an underserved reputation as the "paper of record", and actually has a history of supporting vile and evil things that is continuous throughout the 20th century that is consistently ignored.
 

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