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Cherico

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Piotr Adamczyk - The fall

For poland the fall of the soviet union was a dream come true, Germany after the world war had firmly rejected its Prussian heratage and the militarism that came with it. All around them former Soviet states and soviet clients had freed themselves from the Russian yoke. The communist party which had been such a threat had made the mistake of promising to purge the veterans they had so caulously used and were purged in their stead.

To everyones pleasant surprise the Junta was not interested in expansion, no far from it they were a leadership firmly tramatized by the soviet union and they opened up about the crimes of the former regieme. While many considered their actions self serving the men who had planned the massacres who were not killed in the initial coup were put on trial and publically exicuted for them. One could and should note that the lower ranked troops and those who had supported the coup were exhempted but for many people this was the only justice they would get.

The Chinese never forgave the Russians for what happened, the pain of having 75% of your population slaughtered the release of poisons, gas, nuclear weapons and the occasional bio weapons killed millions even today people still die from mines and bombs left behind even today mass graves are still found.

The former soviet client states joined Nato and the new Junta found themselves an isolated nation under careful watch. The left across the world found itself listless after the fall and the release of the horrors of communism and socialism. But for a time people thought that history at long last was over.

For the united states which had been involved in conflicts all over the world it was a relief.


But nothing ever ends, China is today a nation of 250 million people and while it made peace with Tibet and the Ugers independence they have not forgiven Monogila for taking what they precieve as their land. A war between the nation of roughly 4 million people and themselves seems likey. If this happens then its likely the nation of North Korea a country of 20 million would join them, the last communist nation obviously seeing themselves as next.

South Korea for its part has never reconized the Norths claims and thus it looks like korean history will repeat itself with the south allying with china to restore itself.

Europe has in many ways grown arrogant its leadership concerned with non problems as creeping problems loom. The united states torn between a populist revolt and an increasingly out of touch political class, and in the east Russia is the fastest aging country in the world having their populations gutted by world wars, revolutions and a 20 year quagmire in china its likely they will collapse soon.

But here in Poland we sharpen our knives, our nuclear stockpile has grown dispite german and Russian complaints for Poland will have its boarders even if they are the last boarders on earth.
 

ATP

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Piotr Adamczyk - The fall

For poland the fall of the soviet union was a dream come true, Germany after the world war had firmly rejected its Prussian heratage and the militarism that came with it. All around them former Soviet states and soviet clients had freed themselves from the Russian yoke. The communist party which had been such a threat had made the mistake of promising to purge the veterans they had so caulously used and were purged in their stead.

To everyones pleasant surprise the Junta was not interested in expansion, no far from it they were a leadership firmly tramatized by the soviet union and they opened up about the crimes of the former regieme. While many considered their actions self serving the men who had planned the massacres who were not killed in the initial coup were put on trial and publically exicuted for them. One could and should note that the lower ranked troops and those who had supported the coup were exhempted but for many people this was the only justice they would get.

The Chinese never forgave the Russians for what happened, the pain of having 75% of your population slaughtered the release of poisons, gas, nuclear weapons and the occasional bio weapons killed millions even today people still die from mines and bombs left behind even today mass graves are still found.

The former soviet client states joined Nato and the new Junta found themselves an isolated nation under careful watch. The left across the world found itself listless after the fall and the release of the horrors of communism and socialism. But for a time people thought that history at long last was over.

For the united states which had been involved in conflicts all over the world it was a relief.


But nothing ever ends, China is today a nation of 250 million people and while it made peace with Tibet and the Ugers independence they have not forgiven Monogila for taking what they precieve as their land. A war between the nation of roughly 4 million people and themselves seems likey. If this happens then its likely the nation of North Korea a country of 20 million would join them, the last communist nation obviously seeing themselves as next.

South Korea for its part has never reconized the Norths claims and thus it looks like korean history will repeat itself with the south allying with china to restore itself.

Europe has in many ways grown arrogant its leadership concerned with non problems as creeping problems loom. The united states torn between a populist revolt and an increasingly out of touch political class, and in the east Russia is the fastest aging country in the world having their populations gutted by world wars, revolutions and a 20 year quagmire in china its likely they will collapse soon.

But here in Poland we sharpen our knives, our nuclear stockpile has grown dispite german and Russian complaints for Poland will have its boarders even if they are the last boarders on earth.
Poland had borders? good,but it means that we do not joined EU.
And,we could take russian approach here and let vote only veterans.

What about Vietnam? commies do not take over here.If China attack Mongolia,and North Korea support mongols,North Vietnam should do the same.

In that case,both South Korea and Vietnam should help China here.
By the way - japaneese crimes here are probably forgotten here.

World - still leftist take over EU and maybe USA,but,as a whole,better place.
But,not thanks to Poland,but Kissinger do not stopping soviets from attacking China.

P.S What about polish borders ? would we get back Wilno and Lwów ? if not,what about polish relationships with Ukraine,Belarus and Lithuania?

And,more important,why Russia is aging? after coup and making normal economy they should fuck like rabbitys.
 

bintananth

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What about Vietnam?

The Vietnamese communists are not going to support Chinese communists in this TL anymore than than they did in our timeline. They're nationalists first and communists in name only. They really dislike the Chinese for a whole bunch of historical reasons.

They would have been on the west's side if Wilson and Truman hadn't basically told Ho Chi Minh to "fuck off" when he asked for assistance in getting rid of the French after WWI and WWII.

Stalin said "yes, we'll help you" after WWII and that, shall we say, was that. Heck, the USSR sent most of their aid to Vietnam by sea because the worst the West would do to a Soviet cargo ship was stop and inspect it before letting it go on its way. The Chinese, OTOH, would stop a rail shipment, steal all the good stuff, and replace some of what they stole with poor quality Chinese knock-offs.
 
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The Vietnamese communists are not going to support Chinese communists in this TL anymore than than they did in our timeline. They're nationalists first and communists in name only. They really dislike the Chinese for a whole bunch of historical reasons.

They would have been on the west's side if Wilson and Truman hadn't basically told Ho Chi Minh to "fuck off" when he asked for assistance in getting rid of the French after WWI and WWII.

Stalin said "yes, we'll help you" after WWII and that, shall we say, was that. Heck, the USSR sent most of their aid to Vietnam by sea because the worst the West would do to a Soviet cargo ship was stop and inspect it before letting it go on its way. The Chinese, OTOH, would stop a rail shipment, steal all the good stuff, and replace some of what they stole with poor quality Chinese knock-offs.
Well,USA later let commies take Dien bien Phu,when french begged for planes.And american officers made bets,when it fall.
They made putch to throw out Vietnam Emperor Bao,murdered president who keep commie in check,gave power to idiots,and ,when commies come in 1975,did notching.

USA basically gave Vietnam to commies.Why - dunno,ask CIA.
 

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