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Francois Darlan

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Francois Darlan



We should have struck the moment the moment that The Germans invaded Poland. If we had done this we would have won the war right then right there. The problem with this was the fucking Belgians, they decided to declare neutrality at the worst possible moment. It didn't help the stupid waffles of course but it kept us from settling things. You know dispite being invaded by both the Soviets and The Germans at the same fucking time? The Poles managed to last an entire year managed to do a fighting retreat that got most of their leadership, pretty much all of their navy and a good chunk of civilians and milary personal out of the country.

It was a heroic but doomed effort and if the fucking Waffles hadn't fucked it all in the ass it would have ended differently. So of course the Germans didn't respect Belgian neutrality because they didn't the last two times right? We lasted 6 weeks, Petain wanted to throw in the towel and De Gauelle wanted to fight on from Algeria.

The French government incompetant as it was surrendered and we had a choice.

Me I decided that there was a plan, we had spent billions of Franc's on the plan we had personal in Algeria for the plan and I wasn't going to abandon it. So I gathered up as much of the French Navy as possible told the Brits we were still in this and declared that the surrendering capital were traitors, and that we the Free french represented the actual nation of France.

From there each colony had to pick sides.

Algeria obviously picked us as did most of west Africa. Vietnam declared for Vichy as did Gabon. Everything in the carribean declared for us because our navy, the british one and the Polish one took their guns to the islands and gave them a choice. Which was declare for us or die.

So with fewer resources then expected and refugees fleeing Vichy France we realized we were going to be stuck fighting a very long and horrible war. I suppose that's one of the reasons we didn't let the brits get away with any white paper nonsense their coddling of the germans helped lead to this nightmare and we were damned if they were not going to do their bit to deal with the refugee crisis the war helped cause.
 

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Why Poland do not invaded soviets in 1934? they do not need british agreement for that.
But,if british stopped it,too - then we have british responsible for war.

Another good side - Poland lasted year,and fought soviets officially.So,they are at war now - and soviets are in war as german allies.
They could not demand anything from Poland in 1941 now.

Another good thing - polish partisants in OTL almost always supported soviets becouse our goverment ordered them so,now they would kill them on the spot till soviets agree to free all slaves taken from Poland,and to old borders.

German proposed us unoficially kind of cease-fire on East,they do not kill us,we kill soviets with german weapons.Few partisant units agreed to that,now every partisant units could do so.
Soviets were very good in destroing polish underground,becouse they have agents here,agents which could be easily killed.

I asked once old Lady from AK,why they do not simply killed all soviet agents before their army come.She said,that they could not kill people for something they could do.
I bet,that Nowa Polska dudes would have no problems with that.

P.S soviet so-called partisants were bunch of rapists-becouse they hired local cryminals.They coud kill peasants,but even second rate troops beat them easily.
Here,entire Belaruss,Poland ,Lithuania and part of Ukraine could be free of them.

Polish best partisant,Adolf Pilch Góra- Dolina,fought them when they had 10:1 numerical advantage,and beat every time.
/they massacred poish partisants after welcoming them to meeting in 1943,he manage to run,create new unit,made local peace with germans and beat schit out of soviets for next few months/
Here wiki,unfortunatelly in polish:

If notching change,all soviet partisants and agents on polish territories could be wiped out before their army come.
Góra-Dolina used against them small calvary units with pistol machines - they charged,and schoot from close distanse.

How many tanks and planes soviet lost in Poland?
 
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Francois Darlan



We should have struck the moment the moment that The Germans invaded Poland. If we had done this we would have won the war right then right there. The problem with this was the fucking Belgians, they decided to declare neutrality at the worst possible moment. It didn't help the stupid waffles of course but it kept us from settling things. You know dispite being invaded by both the Soviets and The Germans at the same fucking time? The Poles managed to last an entire year managed to do a fighting retreat that got most of their leadership, pretty much all of their navy and a good chunk of civilians and milary personal out of the country.

It was a heroic but doomed effort and if the fucking Waffles hadn't fucked it all in the ass it would have ended differently. So of course the Germans didn't respect Belgian neutrality because they didn't the last two times right? We lasted 6 weeks, Petain wanted to throw in the towel and De Gauelle wanted to fight on from Algeria.

The French government incompetant as it was surrendered and we had a choice.

Me I decided that there was a plan, we had spent billions of Franc's on the plan we had personal in Algeria for the plan and I wasn't going to abandon it. So I gathered up as much of the French Navy as possible told the Brits we were still in this and declared that the surrendering capital were traitors, and that we the Free french represented the actual nation of France.

From there each colony had to pick sides.

Algeria obviously picked us as did most of west Africa. Vietnam declared for Vichy as did Gabon. Everything in the carribean declared for us because our navy, the british one and the Polish one took their guns to the islands and gave them a choice. Which was declare for us or die.

So with fewer resources then expected and refugees fleeing Vichy France we realized we were going to be stuck fighting a very long and horrible war. I suppose that's one of the reasons we didn't let the brits get away with any white paper nonsense their coddling of the germans helped lead to this nightmare and we were damned if they were not going to do their bit to deal with the refugee crisis the war helped cause.


Polish army must evacuate through Romania and Hungary,just like in OTL.In OTL we had good agents there,and they could help both countries change sides - if they were not invaded by soviets.

So,what could change here?
1. - normal goverment,not Sikorski doing everything what Churchill wanted.And they would reside in Nowa Polska,not London.
2. - 200.000 troops or more,not counting those from Nowa Polska and soviets later.
3. - Italian would lost Africa,no Rommel there.Allies could fight in Greece.
4.Earlier invasion of Italy,with 400.000 poles and at least 300.000 french troops.They could take entire Italy,Bavaria,Austria and Hungary before soviets.
5.They could leave polish engineers to help produce both hungarians and romanians weapons - it is in our interest,that they stop soviets longer.
6.Polish partisants in OTL helped soviets as ordered by London,and go to Gulags for their troubles.Now,they would massacre them - becouse it was mix of deserters and bandits.
7.In OTL,our commies and soviets made list of our underground,and arrested almost all - becouse nobody except nationalist fought them.
Now,all commies,soviets and bandits on polish soil would die before soviets come - they would not knew who they should arrest.
8.If hungarians and romanians fight better on East,germans could take Baku in 1942.In that case,Turks would join war,and soviets lost 50% of oil.Which mean,that in 1945 they still would be fighting on Dniepr river line.
If such thing happen,Poland could be independent.
9.Even if soviets occupy us,they would not knew who they should arrest.I see polish partisant units fighting till 1956 and longer.
10.Nowa Polska units could save Ethiopia,South Vietnam and Angola from falling to soviets.Maybe Rodesia,too.
11.We coud have free elections in 1988,and real one - with goverment relocating to Warsaw from Nowa Polska.

P.S In OTL we had polish doctor Franciszek Witaszek ,who used typhus and antrax to kill germans in Poznań till he was murdered in 1942.
He was arreatsd,becouse AK ordered him kill 5 german Abwhera officers going to East Front at all cost.
He did it and was discovered.
Here,he could act till 1945.
Here unfortunatelly in polish:
 

ATP

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Francois Darlan



We should have struck the moment the moment that The Germans invaded Poland. If we had done this we would have won the war right then right there. The problem with this was the fucking Belgians, they decided to declare neutrality at the worst possible moment. It didn't help the stupid waffles of course but it kept us from settling things. You know dispite being invaded by both the Soviets and The Germans at the same fucking time? The Poles managed to last an entire year managed to do a fighting retreat that got most of their leadership, pretty much all of their navy and a good chunk of civilians and milary personal out of the country.

It was a heroic but doomed effort and if the fucking Waffles hadn't fucked it all in the ass it would have ended differently. So of course the Germans didn't respect Belgian neutrality because they didn't the last two times right? We lasted 6 weeks, Petain wanted to throw in the towel and De Gauelle wanted to fight on from Algeria.

The French government incompetant as it was surrendered and we had a choice.

Me I decided that there was a plan, we had spent billions of Franc's on the plan we had personal in Algeria for the plan and I wasn't going to abandon it. So I gathered up as much of the French Navy as possible told the Brits we were still in this and declared that the surrendering capital were traitors, and that we the Free french represented the actual nation of France.

From there each colony had to pick sides.

Algeria obviously picked us as did most of west Africa. Vietnam declared for Vichy as did Gabon. Everything in the carribean declared for us because our navy, the british one and the Polish one took their guns to the islands and gave them a choice. Which was declare for us or die.

So with fewer resources then expected and refugees fleeing Vichy France we realized we were going to be stuck fighting a very long and horrible war. I suppose that's one of the reasons we didn't let the brits get away with any white paper nonsense their coddling of the germans helped lead to this nightmare and we were damned if they were not going to do their bit to deal with the refugee crisis the war helped cause.


Few important things:

1.In OTL in 1940 Poland had in Africa 1 Brigade,and another in England/rest was lost in France/,here smarter Poles would have at least 2 corps in Africa,and the same number in England.
Enough to crush italians before Rommel come,and keep at least part of Greece.In worst case - only Crete.You need english to lost those island,greek or poles would keep it.

And - poles in England would defend island not with 2 figter squadrons,but 10 or more.And,their infrantry would wait for invasion.

2.Soviet planned to attack Hitler in 1941,but he was faster.They still bombed both Finland and Hungary,and as a result,both countries declared war on them.
Here,Hungariann with polish help could deliver proofs,that soviets bombed them first,and declare war when soviets refuse to pay.

3.In OTL soviets mass surrender,and germans killed most of prisoners.They would do the same,but hungarians could keep prisoners alive and use them against Sralin.
They could have even 20-30 additional dyvisions.Not enough to win,but enough to fight longer and made soviet advance slover.
Even if Poland fall to soviets,Hungary would remain independent.

4.They could take polish volunteers from USA,like in 1918.If FDR support soviets like in OTL,polish influence could made Republican win elections in 1942 or 1944.
That should be enough to not gave soviets Europe.Easyli done,if they still be fighting on Ukraine in1945/smarter hungarians with soviet prisoners fighting for them,and turks joining war for germans/

5.Even if USA still gave Poland to soviets,Hungary should be free,and polish elites could run there.
Soviets would not have agents in Poland/we could kill them,but failed it/ so they could not easily take over.
More free commie Poland - maybe like Finland in OTL?

6.Portugal and Spain could made refugee countries,too - probably in Angola/Portugal/ and Africa desert/Spain/
 
Italo Balbo

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Once Benito decided something it was pretty much impossible to get him to redirect course expecially when he was wrong. So when the French officially surrendered we had 3200 ships and were the 5th largest Navy in the world. With Frances surrender and the fleeing of the French navy Benito was determined to win glory by going to Algeria. So he took the Italian navy and went personally to Algiers to put the Free French down once and for all.

It was a disaster.

Quite simply put the French knew we were coming all though we wouldn't find out they had cracked our codes until after the war. The French navy had better ships, they were better trained and had the help of the British navy, the exiled polish fleet, elements of the Danish, Belgian, and Dutch fleets in exile.

Of the 1000 ships sent to the battle of Algiers only 10 managed to escape, the others either captured or destroyed around a 3rd of our fleet destroyed in less than 3 days, and Beneto was abord one of the destroyed ships which left me in control of Italy, because I had been more or less groomed for the role.

Now I'm going to be honest I didn't exactly like the Nazi's before the conflict but I decided to go out and talk to Hitler once things had been made official, and.....the man was insane. He kept talking about ayrian spirit this and ayrian spirit that and then started this conversation about being reincarnated and I just kept silent and realized he was crazy. I mean later on I found out he had just taken some drugs from his doctor meth I mean but that was years afterwards.

At that moment I realized shit, we are allied to an utter nutcase and he's just going to drag us down with him. So I went home and declared victory. I stated that Itally had gained everything it wanted from the war and that we were out. Adolf was of course utterly pissed off but I placated him by saying quite honestly that we did a lot more good for the war effort in a support role then on the battlefield.

Unoffocially as new leadership I got in contacts with the French and British and worked out other deals. We had to give up Eithopia but we were able to work out some trade deals that benifited us, and we had to exit the war I put forward the idea that if circumstances changed Italy might be able to change its position on a few things.

With that done we had a seperate peace and now knowing the deficencies of our military decided to not go on any adventures. Instead we would place forces in Lybia and draw off refugees to help settle it. If we couldn't gain more by military arms then it was best if we developed what we already had.

Time would prove my decision to get away from that madman correct.
 

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Italo Balbo



Once Benito decided something it was pretty much impossible to get him to redirect course expecially when he was wrong. So when the French officially surrendered we had 3200 ships and were the 5th largest Navy in the world. With Frances surrender and the fleeing of the French navy Benito was determined to win glory by going to Algeria. So he took the Italian navy and went personally to Algiers to put the Free French down once and for all.

It was a disaster.

Quite simply put the French knew we were coming all though we wouldn't find out they had cracked our codes until after the war. The French navy had better ships, they were better trained and had the help of the British navy, the exiled polish fleet, elements of the Danish, Belgian, and Dutch fleets in exile.

Of the 1000 ships sent to the battle of Algiers only 10 managed to escape, the others either captured or destroyed around a 3rd of our fleet destroyed in less than 3 days, and Beneto was abord one of the destroyed ships which left me in control of Italy, because I had been more or less groomed for the role.

Now I'm going to be honest I didn't exactly like the Nazi's before the conflict but I decided to go out and talk to Hitler once things had been made official, and.....the man was insane. He kept talking about ayrian spirit this and ayrian spirit that and then started this conversation about being reincarnated and I just kept silent and realized he was crazy. I mean later on I found out he had just taken some drugs from his doctor meth I mean but that was years afterwards.

At that moment I realized shit, we are allied to an utter nutcase and he's just going to drag us down with him. So I went home and declared victory. I stated that Itally had gained everything it wanted from the war and that we were out. Adolf was of course utterly pissed off but I placated him by saying quite honestly that we did a lot more good for the war effort in a support role then on the battlefield.

Unoffocially as new leadership I got in contacts with the French and British and worked out other deals. We had to give up Eithopia but we were able to work out some trade deals that benifited us, and we had to exit the war I put forward the idea that if circumstances changed Italy might be able to change its position on a few things.

With that done we had a seperate peace and now knowing the deficencies of our military decided to not go on any adventures. Instead we would place forces in Lybia and draw off refugees to help settle it. If we couldn't gain more by military arms then it was best if we developed what we already had.

Time would prove my decision to get away from that madman correct.

Not 3200 ships,counting gunboats maybe 300.But yeah,they were 5th naval power in the world then.
Benito could die like that,and Balbo would be smart enough for making peace.

So,what next? No Greece invasion,althought Hitler could still invade Yugoslavia.After that - Rommel and 2 panzer dyvisions send to soviets.They actually could take either Leningrad or Moscov in 1941.
Add better fighting hungarians and romanians/polish help in training and making weapons/,and they would take Baku in 1942,which mean Turkey entering war.And getting beaten by everybody once again.

Soviets lost 50% of oil,even with american help they would struggle to survive.
Try made peace with Hitler,as in OTL - but he always wonted all,so nothing come of it.

Meanville,in occupied Poland,polish partisants would made unofficial cease-fire with germans to hunt all soviet agent and common bandits/usually the same/ there.
Sralin in OTL let 117.000 polish slaves go - now,he must led go everybody/some 700.000 or more/
After adding poles evacuated in 1940 and Nowa Polska,we have 500.000 strong polish army now.

Soviets in 1945 would still fight on Ukraine,so,after USA drop A bomb on Berlin and end war,we should have free Poland again in old eastern borders with added east prussia and maybe more.


Unless.....England fucked a lot here,so why USA led by Democrats could not gave Poland to soviets anyway?
Then,you could have Poland on Carribean and Brasil only again.
Emigrants could go to them - or portugees colonies in Africa,and South Africa.
 
Johan Nygaardsvold- leader of Norway

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Johan Nygaardsvold- leader of Norway


When you read the transcripts of german communications you find out that the germans came very close to invading us before France it was only the German worry that this would weaken the front. We didn't want to belive the warnings coming from the Poles belive their inteligence. We quite simply were not ready.

The invasion and fall of France changed minds we started to prepare, we still had our neutrality but we bought more weapons and trained up our people, it was the discovery of Quisling giving reports of potential invasion sites that prompted us to capture him force him to give germans bad intel and prepare for the worst.

It came after the disaster that was Algiers, yes the Italians lost a thousand ships but most of them were civilian transports impressed for the invasion, and support ships and the like their utter defeat by the Free coalition prompted the Germans to look for an easy win.

When they struck we were ready, and held them off, even with our preperations, even knowing when they would be coming we came so close to losing. It was only the intervention of the British, and the Free Pole, Free French and Free Danish forces that let us win the battle. With their help we were able to push the Hun back into the sea. With their help we were able to crush a goodly porportion of their navy.

The Germans would spitefully send plains to bomb civilians the norwegian blitz as we called it but they would never again step on Norways soil. From there the war went into the uneasy phase. The Facist war machine had been proved to not be invincible but we didn't have any real way to strike at them and everyone had to rebuild, but we had hope that victory was possible but that it would be a long hard fought thing.

Then the Germans invaded the soviet union, with that came hope of our victory.
 

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Johan Nygaardsvold- leader of Norway


When you read the transcripts of german communications you find out that the germans came very close to invading us before France it was only the German worry that this would weaken the front. We didn't want to belive the warnings coming from the Poles belive their inteligence. We quite simply were not ready.

The invasion and fall of France changed minds we started to prepare, we still had our neutrality but we bought more weapons and trained up our people, it was the discovery of Quisling giving reports of potential invasion sites that prompted us to capture him force him to give germans bad intel and prepare for the worst.

It came after the disaster that was Algiers, yes the Italians lost a thousand ships but most of them were civilian transports impressed for the invasion, and support ships and the like their utter defeat by the Free coalition prompted the Germans to look for an easy win.

When they struck we were ready, and held them off, even with our preperations, even knowing when they would be coming we came so close to losing. It was only the intervention of the British, and the Free Pole, Free French and Free Danish forces that let us win the battle. With their help we were able to push the Hun back into the sea. With their help we were able to crush a goodly porportion of their navy.

The Germans would spitefully send plains to bomb civilians the norwegian blitz as we called it but they would never again step on Norways soil. From there the war went into the uneasy phase. The Facist war machine had been proved to not be invincible but we didn't have any real way to strike at them and everyone had to rebuild, but we had hope that victory was possible but that it would be a long hard fought thing.

Then the Germans invaded the soviet union, with that came hope of our victory.

Could happen.In OTL 24 norwegian modern fighters/P.36/ was still not assembled - germans sell them to Finns later.
And out of 6 brigades,only one fight - others simply go home.
If Norwegian have better weapons and actually fight,they could win with British/French help.

About Poand - in OTL first partisant units emerged in 1943,and almost entire polish underground in soviet territory was destroyed becouse they were amateurs making stupid mistakes.
Here,it would never happen,and in eastern Poland could be at least 10.000 well supplied partisants in forests there.
Western Poland do not have big enough forests.
I see them eradicating soviet deserters which in OTL becomed bandits/partisants,and making unoficial peace with germans - real enemy there was soviets after all.

P.S How many polish soldiers go to Africa through Balkans? 200.000? more?
In OTL Poland had 900.000 soldiers in 1939 - here it could be 1,5M,or even more.
 

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Could happen.In OTL 24 norwegian modern fighters/P.36/ was still not assembled - germans sell them to Finns later.
And out of 6 brigades,only one fight - others simply go home.
If Norwegian have better weapons and actually fight,they could win with British/French help.

About Poand - in OTL first partisant units emerged in 1943,and almost entire polish underground in soviet territory was destroyed becouse they were amateurs making stupid mistakes.
Here,it would never happen,and in eastern Poland could be at least 10.000 well supplied partisants in forests there.
Western Poland do not have big enough forests.
I see them eradicating soviet deserters which in OTL becomed bandits/partisants,and making unoficial peace with germans - real enemy there was soviets after all.

P.S How many polish soldiers go to Africa through Balkans? 200.000? more?
In OTL Poland had 900.000 soldiers in 1939 - here it could be 1,5M,or even more.
In general take polish anything in otl and triple it
 

ATP

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In general take polish anything in otl and triple it

So,6 polish fighter dyvisions in battle of Britain,and 600.000 soldiers in 1943?
If only Italy agree to backstab Germany in 1944,they actually could free Poland before soviets come there.Or,at least,Hungary.

Would Turkey join germans?? if so,germans could conqer Greece,but Armenia and Kurdistan with allies help should still hold them.No attacking soviets there,then.
And - another reason to open Balkan front in this TL.Especially if Greece hold on mainland.

P.S in OTL polish engineers made for England cheaper version of Oerlikon 20mm AA gun/70p instead of 350/
named Polsten.Here:

In your TL they could made cheaper versions of everytching,especially pm - could made something like "Owen gun" for example.

Which made possible for them to equipp their soldiers in cheap,but still good,weapons.
They should made good AT guns,too,as practical people - no german tank would laugh at them.
 
Ivan Chernyakhovsky- soviet general

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The most dangerous Poles during the war were the Jungle Poles, these exiles were far more organized and pragmatic and ruthless then the average Pole. The minute they came in they organized the industrialization of poland, they reorganized the Polish armed services and it got to the point where we belived we had to strike.

That cost us the lives of a million men and almost destroyed the revolution after that they killed any sympathizers in country for treason and we lost all of our agents. The second invasion was like wise brutal, the German back stab came at the worst time, our troops were occupied with hunting down the resistance and were prepared for coin operations not a conventional war. We were caught with our pants down and slaughtered.

The English, the french made as a part of the deal for their support the repatration of all captured Polish armed forces, and we reluctantly released them from the Gulags and into the arms of the western allies. The war of the east was complicated by the enterance of Turkey into the Fray. They didn't have a navy worth the name but they did call for jihad against us holy war and encouraged the islamic war to join the Germans in destroying us.

They sent over fishing ships and went to north africa to smuggle in Arabs to fight us with the promises of liberation and the removal of colonialist forces.

These were the volunter international SS brigades and Arabs and turks and other muslums made up about 20% of their forces, and they fought like mad men, and we had revolts. We stopped the enemy at the gates of Stalingrad and we realized that we needed to reorganize.

We didn't have the capability even with outside supply to sufficiently give everyone decent weapontry so the army was classified into three catagories. Penal legions, ethnic legions, and russian ones. The Penal legions were given the worst weapons and sent in with promises of freedom to die. Then the ethnic legions were sent in mostly from central asia to bleed off untrusted ethnic groups. The Russian legions were given the best equipment and would be sent in after the first two had bloodied the enemy.

We didn't send in either the Ukrainians or the Balts because we couldn't trust them not to turn coat and fight for the Germans. The situation in Stalingrad seemed lost and then the Turks declared war on the Greeks and the Armenians, and the Kurds. Forcing the germans to open up another front to rescue the Turks from their own stupidity.

The Greeks fought like madmen and the rocky terrain bled the Germans badly, meanwhile we were stuck with the butchers bill trying to keep Stalingrad. We barely held it, but it cost us it cost us a lot and as much as we don't like to ever admit it we couldn't have done it with out outside support with out resources flowing in from the outside world.

We made progress, slow and faultering but progress and as the war went on we got better but it was the enterance of the yanks that changed everything the seemingly endless amount of material that went into our military. When we got to Prussia that little fragment that had caused this mess.

Well that's where we found the death camps, not just jews, but Gypsys, ethnic russians and others being liquidated. At least half the death camps were in East Prussia and the sight of it enraged us. The Prussians fought like madmen but we were victorious. When we had captured the area we recieved news that the Western allies had captured Berlin, that they had beaten us there. We went into poland and secured it looting their deposes and killing local resistance forces for not being reliable. When we got into German we were in a frothing rage.

We took our revenge.

When we got to Berlin the allies had set up the occupation zones.

Our troops lost control being in the capital of the enemy, for 3 days Russian troops raped and murdered and looted before we regained control. By then the allies felt nervous around us, and much of the goodwill was gone.

Any remaining goodwill vanished when we declared that the countries we occupied would not have the free elections that the west wanted. It was their fault in a way they had been naive and there was no way we were going to give up the dominion they had foolishly given to us.
 
Nixon

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Balbo was a thug, Franco was a thug, Stalin was a thug but Hitler was a worse thug so we decided to make the deals we needed to win. Balbo was on the outs diplomatically when he came to us cap in hand and offered us a way onto europe but in exchange he wanted a place in the winners circle and he was willing to bring Franco in on the deal.

Fact was I always felt that the fucking Wops were a bunch of greasy double dealers but well we made the deal anyways. When D day happened Franco's forces attacked from the south. The Italians attacked from the east, while we attacked from the north, the Free French in Algeria came with us from both the south and north a kind of hammer blow.

That's how we were able to beat the reds to Germany, of course then the cocksucker pinko's fucked it all up by selling out eatern europe to the fucking reds. FDR, should have fought harder we at least should have gotten a deal on fucking poland, and oh hell the Pollocks were pissed really really pissed.

Kicked out of their homeland again, having the Russians be their overloards again? Holy shit they were appocoliptic about it, the pinko's didn't care of course as long as they were able to say to middle america we beat the nazi's it didn't matter that the fucking Iron curtain had swallowed up half of europe didn't matter that the Russians had been hitlers fucking ally and we just gave them everything they wanted.

I mean fuck, they just gave them half of Korea, and the Russians had only managed to take Manchuria they were getting slaughtered when the Japanese gave up and they essentially got half of Korea for free? Bullshit, the only silver fucking lining is that when the Russians asked for Sakhalin island we forcibly reminded the pinkos that if we just gave the russians that then we would be establishing that you could take back land you sold.

And what do you know alaska is a thing, do you want the Commies on your doorstep retard? Do you want that? We were barely able to keep those shitstains from folding because we didn't want that precident. You sell a piece of land its gone forever. The Japs bought Sakhalin from you fair and square piss off.

Of course the Russians were unhappy because their a bunch of assholes, but its not like they had a navy worth the name. So they had to content themselves with the Kurils meanwhile the Japanese got to keep their northern island which made them slightly less prissy after they lost.

Overall the pinko's fucked us right in the ass, the british were wreaked, the Italians were fucking useless, Germany was in tatters, the Spanish were wreaked and the French were fucked side ways, and we realized the only ones protecting the world from the commies was us.

Marshal plan came after that had to rebuild europe, had to rebuild everything, to my surprise that cunt Truman managed to get a win. Rather then put a firm line in the sand for Korea he fucking pussed out and gave the commies the idea they could have everything.

That's where I come in, some one has to come in and clean up the mess some one has to clean up after all of these fuck ups. I cant be the front man for this of course that's most likely going to be Ike but I still feel like the fucking maid cleaning up after some body else shit on the floor.
 

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Ivan Chernyakhovsky- soviet general



The most dangerous Poles during the war were the Jungle Poles, these exiles were far more organized and pragmatic and ruthless then the average Pole. The minute they came in they organized the industrialization of poland, they reorganized the Polish armed services and it got to the point where we belived we had to strike.

That cost us the lives of a million men and almost destroyed the revolution after that they killed any sympathizers in country for treason and we lost all of our agents. The second invasion was like wise brutal, the German back stab came at the worst time, our troops were occupied with hunting down the resistance and were prepared for coin operations not a conventional war. We were caught with our pants down and slaughtered.

The English, the french made as a part of the deal for their support the repatration of all captured Polish armed forces, and we reluctantly released them from the Gulags and into the arms of the western allies. The war of the east was complicated by the enterance of Turkey into the Fray. They didn't have a navy worth the name but they did call for jihad against us holy war and encouraged the islamic war to join the Germans in destroying us.

They sent over fishing ships and went to north africa to smuggle in Arabs to fight us with the promises of liberation and the removal of colonialist forces.

These were the volunter international SS brigades and Arabs and turks and other muslums made up about 20% of their forces, and they fought like mad men, and we had revolts. We stopped the enemy at the gates of Stalingrad and we realized that we needed to reorganize.

We didn't have the capability even with outside supply to sufficiently give everyone decent weapontry so the army was classified into three catagories. Penal legions, ethnic legions, and russian ones. The Penal legions were given the worst weapons and sent in with promises of freedom to die. Then the ethnic legions were sent in mostly from central asia to bleed off untrusted ethnic groups. The Russian legions were given the best equipment and would be sent in after the first two had bloodied the enemy.

We didn't send in either the Ukrainians or the Balts because we couldn't trust them not to turn coat and fight for the Germans. The situation in Stalingrad seemed lost and then the Turks declared war on the Greeks and the Armenians, and the Kurds. Forcing the germans to open up another front to rescue the Turks from their own stupidity.

The Greeks fought like madmen and the rocky terrain bled the Germans badly, meanwhile we were stuck with the butchers bill trying to keep Stalingrad. We barely held it, but it cost us it cost us a lot and as much as we don't like to ever admit it we couldn't have done it with out outside support with out resources flowing in from the outside world.

We made progress, slow and faultering but progress and as the war went on we got better but it was the enterance of the yanks that changed everything the seemingly endless amount of material that went into our military. When we got to Prussia that little fragment that had caused this mess.

Well that's where we found the death camps, not just jews, but Gypsys, ethnic russians and others being liquidated. At least half the death camps were in East Prussia and the sight of it enraged us. The Prussians fought like madmen but we were victorious. When we had captured the area we recieved news that the Western allies had captured Berlin, that they had beaten us there. We went into poland and secured it looting their deposes and killing local resistance forces for not being reliable. When we got into German we were in a frothing rage.

We took our revenge.

When we got to Berlin the allies had set up the occupation zones.

Our troops lost control being in the capital of the enemy, for 3 days Russian troops raped and murdered and looted before we regained control. By then the allies felt nervous around us, and much of the goodwill was gone.

Any remaining goodwill vanished when we declared that the countries we occupied would not have the free elections that the west wanted. It was their fault in a way they had been naive and there was no way we were going to give up the dominion they had foolishly given to us.

Well,FDR did it in OTL.Did soviets manage to take Hungary and Balkans? Italians should free them first.
But,what i see now is Nowa Polska pissed both at England and USA - they could made deal with stronger Brasil now,Spain and Italy,too.
I see 3 power block after WW2 with poles as their secret services.

P.S Poland in OTL had 500.000 strong underground army - and wasted it fighting germans,most just welcomed soviets and was very suprised when they end in gulags.
Less then 60.000 fought them in OTL,and they were disunited.

Here,we would have 500.000 underground army killing soviets and they would have no agents - becouse all bandits and commies would be executed before soviets come.

In OTL small units survived till 1956,here it would be at least 100.000.When soviets must agree to more freedom,we could have Poland like Finland in OTL.
 

ATP

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Richard Nixon



Balbo was a thug, Franco was a thug, Stalin was a thug but Hitler was a worse thug so we decided to make the deals we needed to win. Balbo was on the outs diplomatically when he came to us cap in hand and offered us a way onto europe but in exchange he wanted a place in the winners circle and he was willing to bring Franco in on the deal.

Fact was I always felt that the fucking Wops were a bunch of greasy double dealers but well we made the deal anyways. When D day happened Franco's forces attacked from the south. The Italians attacked from the east, while we attacked from the north, the Free French in Algeria came with us from both the south and north a kind of hammer blow.

That's how we were able to beat the reds to Germany, of course then the cocksucker pinko's fucked it all up by selling out eatern europe to the fucking reds. FDR, should have fought harder we at least should have gotten a deal on fucking poland, and oh hell the Pollocks were pissed really really pissed.

Kicked out of their homeland again, having the Russians be their overloards again? Holy shit they were appocoliptic about it, the pinko's didn't care of course as long as they were able to say to middle america we beat the nazi's it didn't matter that the fucking Iron curtain had swallowed up half of europe didn't matter that the Russians had been hitlers fucking ally and we just gave them everything they wanted.

I mean fuck, they just gave them half of Korea, and the Russians had only managed to take Manchuria they were getting slaughtered when the Japanese gave up and they essentially got half of Korea for free? Bullshit, the only silver fucking lining is that when the Russians asked for Sakhalin island we forcibly reminded the pinkos that if we just gave the russians that then we would be establishing that you could take back land you sold.

And what do you know alaska is a thing, do you want the Commies on your doorstep retard? Do you want that? We were barely able to keep those shitstains from folding because we didn't want that precident. You sell a piece of land its gone forever. The Japs bought Sakhalin from you fair and square piss off.

Of course the Russians were unhappy because their a bunch of assholes, but its not like they had a navy worth the name. So they had to content themselves with the Kurils meanwhile the Japanese got to keep their northern island which made them slightly less prissy after they lost.

Overall the pinko's fucked us right in the ass, the british were wreaked, the Italians were fucking useless, Germany was in tatters, the Spanish were wreaked and the French were fucked side ways, and we realized the only ones protecting the world from the commies was us.

Marshal plan came after that had to rebuild europe, had to rebuild everything, to my surprise that cunt Truman managed to get a win. Rather then put a firm line in the sand for Korea he fucking pussed out and gave the commies the idea they could have everything.

That's where I come in, some one has to come in and clean up the mess some one has to clean up after all of these fuck ups. I cant be the front man for this of course that's most likely going to be Ike but I still feel like the fucking maid cleaning up after some body else shit on the floor.

So, if USA was as stupid as in OTL,smart poles and smart Balbo and Darlan with Franco would defintely made Coalition as third world power.
With hungarians and polish scientists going there,not to USA,they would have H bomb,too.
Ulam made american H bomb,after all.
here,english wiki which i found:

Later,they would save african countries from commies/at least part of them/ taking important resources in process.
 
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Cherico

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Richard Nixion



During the war I was the ambassidor to Poland, got to say I actually liked the Pollacks they actually understood that the Russkies were a bunch of psychos unlike the useless cocksucker Pinkos. And unlike our inteligence services which were well incompetant stupid and half pinko already the Poles actually had spys worth the name. Good luck trying to get the fucking pinkos to listen to anything except the sound of their own farts.

That said I had a nice working relationship with them by the time we lost china. Now you see the reason why the Poles liked me is because I understood things were a two way street and that the commies were fucking assholes. While the Democrats obeyed the British's request about not poking the bear? I used what influence I had to stick it to the commies.

That meant that I made sure that captured German weapons ended up 'falling off a truck', that meant that when the democrats talked about giving over a list of partizens as a sign of good faith, I talked to the poles and made sure that it was instead a list of pinko sympathizers.

I understood that keeping the Soviets bleeding in their guts in Poland was a way to keep them from causing trouble elsewhere, while the fucking pinkos tried to oppose them learning shit all from the last time that happened. So I did favors for the Poles and in return they did favors for us.

Like Korea.

The Poles sent 100,000 men into that conflict, and yeah they moved slower and at one point stopped to resupply and settle defenses just in case. Well officially unofficially their forces were tired and decided they didn't want to spend more lives finishing off the north koreans.

This saved our ass because when the Chinese came roaring down, we were able to retreat to the Polish created defenses and hunker down. That I think saved the war from Trumans incompetance, and made sure we made gains. Truman tried to softball the commies and didn't let us actually fight. Because the cocksucker wanted a 'limited' war.

We beat his ass and I moved up into the role of vice president and Ike simply reminded the Chinese we had the bomb and they had nothing so they could accept the facts on the ground or accept a can of opened sunshine. Result we went from this in korea.

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to this.

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Commies lost their old capital which felt damned good, and the chinese had their buffer state which didn't feel as good still it was a win. We owed the poles so I continued to smuggle weapons in their direction. Made sure they got some development aid, and when they talked about getting a Polish bomb.

Well I made sure that we worked with them to develope 'civilian' nuclear power. Like I said give and take, and in 53 Stalin died and that's when the Poles hit Paydirt.

You see they had dirt on this pinko cocksucker named Beria, not enough to get inteligence at the time but they reminded him that the minute Stalin croked they were going to murder him. So they made a deal he would put intel into a swiss lock box to be releashed at the moment of his death and the Poles wouldn't publish the shit that proved he was a kiddy didler.

Stalin died and Beria's kid opened the vault and since I had worked with the Poles I was given first pick and holy shit it was juicy. It was pretty much all of their operations in the america's all of their efforts to undermine the country from with in. Macarthy at this point was starting to talk about a list of commies so I did him a solid and got him an actual list and proof.

Oh god the Pinko's were fucking pissed, it was a list of any one in hollywood who took money from the reds, all of their agents, every way they had subverted the american system. We blacklisted every commie in hollywood, kicked all of the commies out of the colleges we fucking evisterated the left.

We paid a price one cocksucker Jules Dassin got extra salty and put a Bullet into Macarthy. That let us release more of the stuff, we really fucked the soviets over cleaned america right up, and even then they were still dealing with a gurella war in Poland that wouldn't stop were still dealing with people fighting in the baltics.

I worked with the poles to make damned sure any one fighting the commies had the weapons they needed. You see I understood that the Russian bear only had so much blood and once we made him bleed enough he would die. Yeah the cocksuckers wouldn't allow a strait up fight which fine enough but there was plenty of ways to screw them over plenty of ways to bleed them dry.
 

ATP

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Smarter poles should not rely only on Nixon - they should still made alliance with Spain,Italy and Algieria.
And together made H bomb.

P.S How much of Balkans soviet take? becouse if Hungary are still free,then it change many things.
Bulgary and Constantinopole - did soviet take it,too?

And how much Turkey is fucked?
What about islam as religion?

P.S.S i bet,that Iranian used it as chance to kill as many turks as possible.
 
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ATP

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Richard Nixion



During the war I was the ambassidor to Poland, got to say I actually liked the Pollacks they actually understood that the Russkies were a bunch of psychos unlike the useless cocksucker Pinkos. And unlike our inteligence services which were well incompetant stupid and half pinko already the Poles actually had spys worth the name. Good luck trying to get the fucking pinkos to listen to anything except the sound of their own farts.

That said I had a nice working relationship with them by the time we lost china. Now you see the reason why the Poles liked me is because I understood things were a two way street and that the commies were fucking assholes. While the Democrats obeyed the British's request about not poking the bear? I used what influence I had to stick it to the commies.

That meant that I made sure that captured German weapons ended up 'falling off a truck', that meant that when the democrats talked about giving over a list of partizens as a sign of good faith, I talked to the poles and made sure that it was instead a list of pinko sympathizers.

I understood that keeping the Soviets bleeding in their guts in Poland was a way to keep them from causing trouble elsewhere, while the fucking pinkos tried to oppose them learning shit all from the last time that happened. So I did favors for the Poles and in return they did favors for us.

Like Korea.

The Poles sent 100,000 men into that conflict, and yeah they moved slower and at one point stopped to resupply and settle defenses just in case. Well officially unofficially their forces were tired and decided they didn't want to spend more lives finishing off the north koreans.

This saved our ass because when the Chinese came roaring down, we were able to retreat to the Polish created defenses and hunker down. That I think saved the war from Trumans incompetance, and made sure we made gains. Truman tried to softball the commies and didn't let us actually fight. Because the cocksucker wanted a 'limited' war.

We beat his ass and I moved up into the role of vice president and Ike simply reminded the Chinese we had the bomb and they had nothing so they could accept the facts on the ground or accept a can of opened sunshine. Result we went from this in korea.

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to this.

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Commies lost their old capital which felt damned good, and the chinese had their buffer state which didn't feel as good still it was a win. We owed the poles so I continued to smuggle weapons in their direction. Made sure they got some development aid, and when they talked about getting a Polish bomb.

Well I made sure that we worked with them to develope 'civilian' nuclear power. Like I said give and take, and in 53 Stalin died and that's when the Poles hit Paydirt.

You see they had dirt on this pinko cocksucker named Beria, not enough to get inteligence at the time but they reminded him that the minute Stalin croked they were going to murder him. So they made a deal he would put intel into a swiss lock box to be releashed at the moment of his death and the Poles wouldn't publish the shit that proved he was a kiddy didler.

Stalin died and Beria's kid opened the vault and since I had worked with the Poles I was given first pick and holy shit it was juicy. It was pretty much all of their operations in the america's all of their efforts to undermine the country from with in. Macarthy at this point was starting to talk about a list of commies so I did him a solid and got him an actual list and proof.

Oh god the Pinko's were fucking pissed, it was a list of any one in hollywood who took money from the reds, all of their agents, every way they had subverted the american system. We blacklisted every commie in hollywood, kicked all of the commies out of the colleges we fucking evisterated the left.

We paid a price one cocksucker Jules Dassin got extra salty and put a Bullet into Macarthy. That let us release more of the stuff, we really fucked the soviets over cleaned america right up, and even then they were still dealing with a gurella war in Poland that wouldn't stop were still dealing with people fighting in the baltics.

I worked with the poles to make damned sure any one fighting the commies had the weapons they needed. You see I understood that the Russian bear only had so much blood and once we made him bleed enough he would die. Yeah the cocksuckers wouldn't allow a strait up fight which fine enough but there was plenty of ways to screw them over plenty of ways to bleed them dry.


I forget few important things:
1.In OTL,USA let soviet crush Hungarian uprising in 1956.Not going to happen,if We have polish uprising now.
We would get free Poland,or at least Finland-like Poland.

2.Nixon almost win in 1956 in OTL - could win for real this time with Democrats keeping selling Poland to soviets and still existing Nowa Polska - polish minority,and many catholics in USA would vote for Nixon here.

3.Not only baltic partisants,but also UPA genociders on Ukraine still fought soviets.Althoufght in their case,poles would let soviet slaughter them.


Most important things -
A.In 1944 In Maison Rouge hotel in Strassburg SS and german elites decide ti transfer stolen money to another countries - which come back in Adenauer times creating so-called economical miracle.
USA knew about that/EW-Pa 128,Red House Report/ ,and did notching.
Nowa Polska could act on their knowledge - for example,taking part of those stolen money.

B.In the beginning of 1956 german secret service,so called Agency 114 lead by war cryminal Alfred Benzinger,proposed to name german death camps as polish death camps.
Reinhard Gehlen agreed - and,as a result,average joe now belive that we did Holocaust.

Smarter Nowa Polska would prevent it,too

P.S - soviets had H bomb in 1956,but not means to deliver it to USA.Even in 1961 no more then 30 could be fired.
So,Till then,USA could do whatever they want ,becouse soviets could not retaliate.
 
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Richard Nixon



Italy understood that they were a second rate power, Spain understood their glory days were over, they jumped in at the last moments pretty much to save their own hides. I knew that I understood that, deal was we agreed not to fuck over their economies give them some aid and include them in the new alliance and in return their occupation zone was Austria.

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So when the war ended the Soviets took over Kurdistan and Armenia, The Greeks got slightly more land in Antolia and the Turks like Finland were made into a neutral state. The Austrians tried to play neutral but nato forces were there to export weapons to the soviet block.

Korea was a pain in the ass but we made gains. The problem was some people were just fucking stupid like the Eqyptian's who were trying to be a soviet ally. Ike tried to keep the region stable and things neutral, while I went out and talked to people. When the election came, well the democrats were hurting bad real bad it shouldn't have been as close as it was but I beat kennedy.

Made it into the Presidential office and then Castro and Vietnam both turned to shit. I looked at the situation and decided to let Vietnam rot on the vine. As for Cuba the CIA wanted some overly complicated plan using exiles and, and I thought about it said no and just sent in the marines. We got lucky killed him and his fucktarded brother. After that we had the island locked down while we dealt with the commies, found out the Soviets backed him funded him even found communications about plans to put nukes on cuban soil.

That's when the Polish bomb went off their first nuke and they came to me with a plan. So they got a few missels loaded them up on a ship and then sailed into the baltics and fucking told the Russians to either leave poland or lose Moscow.

Holy shit the Russians were pissed and then I told them that if they nuked the ships we would nuke them. It was an old fashioned mexican standoff and then the polish revolt took place attacks on russian troops up and down the country and the nukes are pointed right at moscow.

The Russians were sweating real hard, they go into crush the revolt and they lose moscow. They use nukes and we use nukes. Real no win situation for them. The Russians blinked, retreated and Nato forces move in. It was a complete and utter humilation for them.

Right after that we had a deal were we placed our nukes on Polands soil make sure that Free Poland stayed free. Price of that was that the Russians moved their nukes into the check lands, and that we had to let them move through that area unimpeded. The Polish missle crisis ended.

I decided to celibrate, said I wanted a man on the moon, you know give people some glory and stuff. Didn't want to pay for it out of actual funds so I worked with congress legalized pot and put a tax on it to pay for this nasa thing. Let the beatnits pay for it all.

I've decided to do a victory lap over in Texas wave to the crowds and stuff I know the wife would love it.
 

ATP

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Richard Nixon



Italy understood that they were a second rate power, Spain understood their glory days were over, they jumped in at the last moments pretty much to save their own hides. I knew that I understood that, deal was we agreed not to fuck over their economies give them some aid and include them in the new alliance and in return their occupation zone was Austria.

europe-1961-1-scaled.jpeg


So when the war ended the Soviets took over Kurdistan and Armenia, The Greeks got slightly more land in Antolia and the Turks like Finland were made into a neutral state. The Austrians tried to play neutral but nato forces were there to export weapons to the soviet block.

Korea was a pain in the ass but we made gains. The problem was some people were just fucking stupid like the Eqyptian's who were trying to be a soviet ally. Ike tried to keep the region stable and things neutral, while I went out and talked to people. When the election came, well the democrats were hurting bad real bad it shouldn't have been as close as it was but I beat kennedy.

Made it into the Presidential office and then Castro and Vietnam both turned to shit. I looked at the situation and decided to let Vietnam rot on the vine. As for Cuba the CIA wanted some overly complicated plan using exiles and, and I thought about it said no and just sent in the marines. We got lucky killed him and his fucktarded brother. After that we had the island locked down while we dealt with the commies, found out the Soviets backed him funded him even found communications about plans to put nukes on cuban soil.

That's when the Polish bomb went off their first nuke and they came to me with a plan. So they got a few missels loaded them up on a ship and then sailed into the baltics and fucking told the Russians to either leave poland or lose Moscow.

Holy shit the Russians were pissed and then I told them that if they nuked the ships we would nuke them. It was an old fashioned mexican standoff and then the polish revolt took place attacks on russian troops up and down the country and the nukes are pointed right at moscow.

The Russians were sweating real hard, they go into crush the revolt and they lose moscow. They use nukes and we use nukes. Real no win situation for them. The Russians blinked, retreated and Nato forces move in. It was a complete and utter humilation for them.

Right after that we had a deal were we placed our nukes on Polands soil make sure that Free Poland stayed free. Price of that was that the Russians moved their nukes into the check lands, and that we had to let them move through that area unimpeded. The Polish missle crisis ended.

I decided to celibrate, said I wanted a man on the moon, you know give people some glory and stuff. Didn't want to pay for it out of actual funds so I worked with congress legalized pot and put a tax on it to pay for this nasa thing. Let the beatnits pay for it all.

I've decided to do a victory lap over in Texas wave to the crowds and stuff I know the wife would love it.

Plausible,and could happen in OTL even without Nowa Polska,if Nixon win.
Especially,that soviets had a lot of A bombs and few H boms - but not means to deliver it in 1956.Even in 1961 it was maybe 20 missiles capable of delivering.
And,USA knew that.So,they could risk atomic war in 1956 - becouse even if Poland get nuked,soviets would burn and USA would remain intact.

Soviets in Czech - well,they always loved them.And hated Poland.Pity slovakian and moravians,thought.

Moon race - soviets must join it,pay for it,so when they finally lost,we would have exhausted and more humilitated soviets.

Vietnam - just let it to Emperor Bao.He had commies in check,till CIA removed him.

Interesting,would CIA manage to kill Nixon ,too?
If they try,jungle poles could save him!

No matter what happen - you still have normal Hollywood then.Ask normal directors for movies about fighting soviets,they do not need invent anything,only show Truth.
For example,1920 about crushing soviets,and 1939 about german-soviet alliance against Poland.

P.S i once read american book about latest History there - it claim JFK pay mafia to win elections in Illinois,so he win in 1960.
 

ATP

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Richard Nixon



Italy understood that they were a second rate power, Spain understood their glory days were over, they jumped in at the last moments pretty much to save their own hides. I knew that I understood that, deal was we agreed not to fuck over their economies give them some aid and include them in the new alliance and in return their occupation zone was Austria.

europe-1961-1-scaled.jpeg


So when the war ended the Soviets took over Kurdistan and Armenia, The Greeks got slightly more land in Antolia and the Turks like Finland were made into a neutral state. The Austrians tried to play neutral but nato forces were there to export weapons to the soviet block.

Korea was a pain in the ass but we made gains. The problem was some people were just fucking stupid like the Eqyptian's who were trying to be a soviet ally. Ike tried to keep the region stable and things neutral, while I went out and talked to people. When the election came, well the democrats were hurting bad real bad it shouldn't have been as close as it was but I beat kennedy.

Made it into the Presidential office and then Castro and Vietnam both turned to shit. I looked at the situation and decided to let Vietnam rot on the vine. As for Cuba the CIA wanted some overly complicated plan using exiles and, and I thought about it said no and just sent in the marines. We got lucky killed him and his fucktarded brother. After that we had the island locked down while we dealt with the commies, found out the Soviets backed him funded him even found communications about plans to put nukes on cuban soil.

That's when the Polish bomb went off their first nuke and they came to me with a plan. So they got a few missels loaded them up on a ship and then sailed into the baltics and fucking told the Russians to either leave poland or lose Moscow.

Holy shit the Russians were pissed and then I told them that if they nuked the ships we would nuke them. It was an old fashioned mexican standoff and then the polish revolt took place attacks on russian troops up and down the country and the nukes are pointed right at moscow.

The Russians were sweating real hard, they go into crush the revolt and they lose moscow. They use nukes and we use nukes. Real no win situation for them. The Russians blinked, retreated and Nato forces move in. It was a complete and utter humilation for them.

Right after that we had a deal were we placed our nukes on Polands soil make sure that Free Poland stayed free. Price of that was that the Russians moved their nukes into the check lands, and that we had to let them move through that area unimpeded. The Polish missle crisis ended.

I decided to celibrate, said I wanted a man on the moon, you know give people some glory and stuff. Didn't want to pay for it out of actual funds so I worked with congress legalized pot and put a tax on it to pay for this nasa thing. Let the beatnits pay for it all.

I've decided to do a victory lap over in Texas wave to the crowds and stuff I know the wife would love it.

I forget one important thing - commies in OTL win propaganda war,showing them as noble fighters.
But here? with Free Poland in 1960,Hollywood could made tons of movies about soviet crimes and alliance with germans.

And poles could keep showing fresh massgraves full of soviet victims every year.Of course,doing the same with massgraves made by germans.

Just to show that both germans and soviets were basically the same.

P.S IFF CIA do not kill Nixon,save him using jungle poles.And,when cleaning CIA,blame it on soviets.
 

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