Plot Bunny Farm

AndrewJTalon

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much venting will be had.

"i wanted to take over the farm, but when you're a 5th son you take the job that's available."
"do you have any idea how annoying these pauldrons are? i can barely move my head"
" no one takes you seriously unless you fluff up your name a bit, 'Blood River' or 'Spike Ripper' is fine, but Ke Ith? That's not scary and most people would be embarrassed to say it."

Basically, the idea is that what would working and middle class "normal" Kryptonians be like? What would a colony of Kryptonians who hated the status quo be like? Who had to pretend to be super warrior race to protect themselves? How would they get along with Kal-El?
 

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Basically, the idea is that what would working and middle class "normal" Kryptonians be like? What would a colony of Kryptonians who hated the status quo be like? Who had to pretend to be super warrior race to protect themselves? How would they get along with Kal-El?
Starting by the fact that they might not even try to get along with him, the house of El was as high as you could get in the old Krypton and they were instrumental on the defeat of the military insurrection that saw many of Neon's few scientists and soldiers exiled (and I bet Clark's family didn't dare to voice their objections over such draconian measures since they were planning to run out of the doomed planet and attracting attention would have been deadly).

So I bet much of Superman's focus is going to be to prove he is not an evil totalitarian who would love to see the 'old customs' of Krypton back in Neon.
 

AndrewJTalon

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Starting by the fact that they might not even try to get along with him, the house of El was as high as you could get in the old Krypton and they were instrumental on the defeat of the military insurrection that saw many of Neon's few scientists and soldiers exiled (and I bet Clark's family didn't dare to voice their objections over such draconian measures since they were planning to run out of the doomed planet and attracting attention would have been deadly).

So I bet much of Superman's focus is going to be to prove he is not an evil totalitarian who would love to see the 'old customs' of Krypton back in Neon.

Well, given they would have rescued some survivors from Argo, they might have a few of Clark and Kara's cousins in the colony. So they wouldn't be very hostile to him. Well, most of them wouldn't be.
 

BF110C4

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Well, given they would have rescued some survivors from Argo, they might have a few of Clark and Kara's cousins in the colony. So they wouldn't be very hostile to him. Well, most of them wouldn't be.
Not hostility, fear. These are the peaceful survivors of the equivalent of a Kryptonian gulag that know the effects of a yellow sun and instead of conquering near planets, or even moving their population to a system with the right kind of star to be invincible in their home turf decided to ofuscate their origins as a mode of self-defense.

To have a warrior known on an universal scale such as Superman (depending on when in the timeline we are talking about there might be rumors he defeated Darkseid) being a member of the House of El will have plenty of the citizens literally praying that he doesn't discover them.

Superman is going to be forced to be very careful in how he interacts with the mercenaries in order to gain their trust, maybe even paying a few bounties from his pocket in order to lure them into a long conversation.
 
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Crossposting from the Outsider forums:

I have been a fan of the webcomic for years, loving the story and the universe. Arioch has weaved an interesting story that uses the various tropes as intended -like tools- and not as shortcuts. While we've been waiting for Outsider to continue despite the schedule slipping, I see that this universe has a decent-sized fanbase that has created some fanfiction. So I decided to throw my hat into the ring.

In this case, it is a setting of my creation. This setting is a future-history setting, a possible future if you will. It is a setting where the present-day is set in the mid 25th century (aka the 2440s) if you still use the Anno Domini calendar, where conflict is just a fact of life. Much has changed in the intervening centuries before that present-day. The situation stems from the prospect of -in the grand scheme of things- Hobbes is closer to the human condition. The story takes place centuries after the present after SolGov (the UN successor) conquered the rest of humanity and started traveling across the stars.

It is due to this truth that humanity has been at war with itself for centuries. Across the solar system, mind you. When the average military size in Sol as of 2440 (or 0340 in the New World Era calendar) employed some 35% of a faction's population, the ability to wage war gets impressive. So, in this case, both sides will start seeing humanity as an existential threat, especially if they discover how effective humanity's industry is and their technology.

For example, by 0340 NWE (New World Era), the average human is a byproduct of numerous genetic alteration programs leading to a 160kg (average) person, is described as 'the child of Halo's SPARTAN IIs and Battletech's Elementals' by others. The extensively augmented humans, oddly enough, pales in comparison to the anthropomorphic uplifts that humanity has created. Depending on the template, these beings can reach up to an average of 350kg. These uplifts also have similar augmentations to humans, making them incredibly adaptable. While the average body can only last 120 years before having problems, humanity perfected the ability to switch bodies. This ability makes them, for all intents and purposes, immortal. Some can switch bodies like one would switch clothes. While they're (comparatively) rare, these people get hired by intelligence services of various stripes. The most in/famous of these are the UN successor's Special Actions Division. SAD Agents are generally called 'Genocide Wo/men' by their detractors and enemies, which is considered crass by those who work with and are in the same department as the agents. The reason for this 'crass' nickname stems from SAD's immense mandate and the agents' ability to sterilize everything in an area, killing everyone and everything in it. You've got to understand that this ability has tight regulations with AGI entwined with their consciousnesses having the final say in the field with an RTB requirement after its use. Given the horrific things that agents have to keep an eye on, and the sad reality is that this level of freedom is necessary, as I'm going to reveal.

This extensive gene-manipulation ability also leads to something that would make both sides start needing new undergarments: the ability to cook up horrific bioweapons. To give you an idea of how destructive the various powers can make their bioweapons, I have to talk about Rome. The Roman Metropolitan Area became a 'dead zone' or an area where, if you entered without extensive equipment, you die. The Roman Metropolitan Area became sealed within a nanotech-built Teflon-composite biosphere. The reason why? Because an 'Eco-Purist' unleashing similar to a bioweapon -called 'Little Boy' after the nuclear bomb- described in a web forum and this bioweapon is a proposal as a last-resort weapon in that context. The only things that can kill the 'biosphere killer' being either nano-disassembler nanites set on 'disassemble anything carbon-based' mode or bathing in Chlorine Trifluoride. That's right, either something that disassembles anything organic molecule by molecule or you bathe in the substance that is known as the chemical of unquenchable fire can kill this bioweapon. Nothing else works, and that includes radiation treatment.

Another 'fun' weapon in humanity's arsenal is memetic weapons. Such weapons are akin to biological weapons that use information transfer as their vector. Several generations of these weapons exist in the setting, with 'Gen5s' -the last generation of such weapons- completely invalidating the idea of free will (with two previous generations showing this property). By the time this fic starts, all but one generation of memetic weapon (Gen5) are no longer a threat to humanity and its "children" (i.e., uplifts and AGIs). If the story took place in 0340NWE, on the other hand, it would be the first two generations being no longer a threat and the third partially eliminated. Thankfully, memetic weapon research has been illegal by the Sol Accord outside of creating countermeasures. While these accords haven't stopped idiots with more ideology than sense from using them, the human race hasn't self-destructed due to the use of such weapons.

Frightening, is it?

Now, in terms of more conventional weaponry, the setting runs the gambit of the realistic and less realistic. You will see magneto-motive (i.e., railguns, coilguns, and helical coilguns) cannons, various lasers (ranging from visual to x-ray), and particle beams alongside energy pulse weapons, 'quark' guns (basically a poor man's molecular disruptor and 'space shotgun'), missiles with various warheads, and weapons designed to disrupt energy shields. The lightest anti-ship energy weapon in the setting as of 0340 is a 4TW (1GJ per pulse, 16 pulses) UV Pulse Laser with an RoF of 4 that can reach out at 40Mm and has an efficiency of 60%. If you haven't seen the scientific papers on how nasty hard UV lasers are on materials, then let me say that the results are shocking. While the setting does have armor that can withstand such strikes, it doesn't last forever, and it is just incredibly thick.

Another difference between humanity and the portion of the galaxy where the Loroi and Umiak reside is their shields. These shields around a whole different paradigm than what the Loroi and Umiak use, as they (apparently) utilize a dispersion-focused setup. This setup is similar to in-setting Energy Dispersion Web or 'ED-WEB' armor enhancements, which in turn is akin to Babylon 5's E-WEB. Dispersion setups are so-called due to how they mitigate damage, i.e., disperse the energy impact over a far larger area. Humanity's shield system isn't dispersion-focused as it uses a neutralization setup instead. At the basic level, shields act akin to ablative armor. You may have seen this sort of shield in various visual science fiction over the years, and you may get the idea that it's 'massless' ablative armor. The reality is that while the field that a shield generator generates is -effectively- massless, the infrastructure isn't. When I talk about infrastructure, I mean the generator itself, the various capacitors, the emitters, the control systems, and most importantly, the power supply to allow them to function. When operational, the shield is capable of taking a lot of punishment under normal circumstances. You can throw kinetic and energy weapons and only slowly widdle the capacitors down, but this changes when specialty 'shield disruptors' and 'shield piercers' come into play. These weapons -usually termed 'energy shells' or 'energy torpedoes' due to being giant packets of semi-guided energy- are specifically designed to disrupt the field that shield generators create. If one facing goes down, then the entire shield dissipates and thus leaving a ship vulnerable. Shield piercers are different in they are expensive specialty devices designed to penetrate shields and are exclusive to missiles, but this isn't 100% effective due to the difficulties involved.

Humanity's ships are different in that, for their designation, they're far heavier. An example will be the Stiletto VIII class corvette. The Stiletto VIII class corvette is a 288-meter long vessel that weighs in at 450 thousand metric tons (or 450kTons for short) and maneuvering capabilities of 27.2 gravities. A Loroi spaceship of a comparable mission is the Rapier class of escort cruisers, which masses 175kTons and maneuvering capabilities of 30 gravities. What the Stiletto VIII class has are impressive offensive and defensive capabilities alongside its station-keeping. Stiletto VIIIs have lots of missiles for a vessel of their size -216 are of the offensive type- while retaining a blistering array of particle and laser cannons.

What the Rapier class has are its higher maneuverability and superior weapons range. A fun quirk of human spaceship design is their design emphasizes long-term station-keeping. While a Rapier class is likely to return to a logistics hub in a few months, the Stiletto VIII class and its 300+ lives can stay on-station for four years. Something more impressive when you account that time on station is for beings with a 12k calorie diet (or if you want to calculate it out, roughly six times the average human). This immense provision capacity is two-fold: one, human ships took years to cross the solar system with lackluster delta-v with the added requirement to fight with said lackluster delta-v, and two, the solar system used to be a scene of constant warfare, and thus constant unhindered resupply was problematic.

The snippet that you'll see has its beginning with the SFSV Ulysses Haldymire -a massive exploration vessel- entering the same system that the canonical Bellarmine wound up dying in.
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SFSV Ulysses Haldymire -Grand Explorer class Deep Range Explorer- CIC, Naam [Orgus Designation]/PIII-5114-222 [SolForce Designation] - about 150 parsecs from the edge of Earth Space; April 15th, 0920 NWE (3020 AD)

"We've exited Hyperlight, Captain," the navigator stated as the female orca-morph double-checked her data, "We've deviated 0.00005402% from entry. Our escorts will be exiting in point-eight-two milliseconds." Soon enough, the central holo-tank showed the two Stiletto VIII class corvettes exiting FTL some 62 kilometers off either side of the massive ship.

That was when the sensors went off.

"Sensors to CIC; we've got energy signatures on the passives consistent from the data that the Orgus gave us. With what the passives are giving us, we've likely stumbled upon a border skirmish," the CSO stated, "The proplyd is reducing our passive sensor capabilities, sir."

"Can you give us any data on the battle without going active?" I ordered, hoping to keep my flotilla alive. While we've got a panic button that would have the 9th Primary Fleet to come in and save our asses, it'll take time to do so. "I want shields up. I don't want to be caught with our pants down if someone is in the proplyd." The shields quickly switched from standby to active, sheathing the three vessels with a capable defensive energy field. "Begin maneuvers to get away from the proplyd; we don't know if anyone's hiding in there until we start going active."

"Sensors to CIC; what I can give you is limited thanks to the proplyd. From what we can decern, we're looking at at least a dozen Loroi and two dozen Umiak capital ships," the CSO answered, "That is without going active. If we go active now, everyone and their brother are going to know that someone is here. We'll be drowning in Loroi and Umiak anti-ship ordinance in that scenario. So far, their energy readings indicate they're primarily using mid-single-digit gigajoule particle cannons and nuclear warheads."

"That's promising," I commented, "Our shields and E-WEB can take that easily; hell, our shields and E-WEB from the 4th century can take those." That was when one of the vessels in the battle exploded. "Sensors, what sort of detonation was that?"

"Sensors to CIC; passives are indicating that it was a combination of a forcefield-enhanced fusion reactor with an output of the tens of terawatts going off and the detonation of a fusion warhead magazine. Their armor, to be frank, appears to be complete and utter shit. I'm getting energy shield indications, but from the reactions I'm seeing, they're designed for dispersion first, not negation."

"Interesting, given they should have armor that is capable enough to take a few hits," I quipped, "that is similar to what we use for E-WEB. Still, to use it as a shield is going to eat your power supply like a pig."

"Not to mention the fact that as a shield system, they're a pain in the ass to maintain," my XO said as he floated through, "I was an engineer back when we started creating modern shield tech. White Section played with that sort of technology but couldn't get it to work. The required powerplant alone is immense, let alone the required volume for the infrastructure. Though, if you can pay the two price tags, then you've got something that works against pretty much anything short of exotics." I looked at the Holo-plot data with interest. "Last I've heard, White Section has been trying to improve the dispersion properties of our shields to help against shield disruptor fire." The one thing that humanity discovered when it went FTL was that several races had superior shield disruptor weapons than SolForce had in its arsenal. The Klackon, Alkari, and Tarkas are the most infamous in that regard. Dispersion fields have always had an edge in that regard, but, so far, the process to mitigate the downsides wasn't successful.

"Sensors to CIC; new contact detected!"

"Sensors, report!" I ordered.

"The cheeky bugger decided to hide in the proplyd! Passives detected him as he exited. Contact appears to be a destroyer type. He's relatively unarmed from what the passives can pick up. Distance, 850km from the Stiletto of Sorrow."

"Alright, send the SFSV Stiletto of Sorrow to investigate, focused active only. I don't want the Loroi and Umiak to know we're here just yet," I ordered, "Get the batteries into standby; if they want to start shooting, we've got to be ready for it. Communications, get the first contact package out on a tight beam to the unknown. If I have to hazard a guess, we're dealing with someone else." The current chief communications officer nodded and got the primary communications array to send the tight-beam message.

"Energy spike! Unknown has opened fire with a particle cannon."

"All stations to quick alert!" I ordered, "Brace for impact!" The vessel shook as the particle cannon shots hit the shields.

"The Stiletto of Sorrow is returning fire!" The holo-plot showed the Stiletto of Sorrow firing its 40TW UV pulse lasers at the unknown, quickly damaging it. The unknown quickly started to maneuver, trying to escape its current predicament due to the disparity shown. The other Stiletto VIII ship, the Stiletto of Woe, shifted into the attack, lending its armaments into the fray. The unknown ship was quickly pot-marked with the carnage of pulse UV-lasers, sending its crew to their demise.

"Welp, so much for doing this stealthfully," I complained, "Alright, stand down from combat alert; set all stations to Condition 2, have DC sweeps prepared, and prepare AARs. Have the Stiletto of Sorrow send a boarding team ASAP; we need answers, that ship giving us those answers."

"Sensors to CIC; we've got a Loroi warship coming our way. Given the drive plume, we're looking at something in the megaton mass range using hydrogen as their drive propellant. Better armed than the ship we fought against but still somewhat pitiful in armament. I've seen light cruisers with more guns and launchers than that. If I were a betting man, most of that mass and size is likely on their propellant tanks than anything else."

That is weird, as anyone worth their salt would abandon hydrogen as STL propellant well before they went FTL. Hydrogen is just too bulky and only provides a pitiful thrust-to-weight ratio. Back in the fission rocket days, the most common drive propellant wasn't hydrogen but methane when solid cores were a thing. The moment viable gas-cores got into mass production, everyone went to water and never looked back. Races that still use reaction drives -or in the case of several, a mixed bank of reactionless and reaction STL drives- utilize water as their drive propellant. It is far more efficient, and it doesn't do things like cause carbon fouling.

"Prepare for our first contact with the Loroi and get that boarding team on the unknown ASAP," I ordered, "Stay at Condition Yellow; I don't want to be caught with our pants down." With that, things went apace, and our first contact with the Loroi slowly began...
 

LindyAF

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So in Chronicles of Narnia I find the idea of people who are essentially fantastic medieval kings and queens removed from their world to a modern, more mundane one that they are already familiar with interesting, and something that there's not much exploration of. There's a couple short fics that sort of explore it, but it feels like there's not enough for them to do... so I was thinking, Chronicles of Narnia crossed with a world like A Study In Emerald, with the Pevensies returning from freeing Narnia from the Witch to a world under a subtler but no less terrible rule.
 

Bassoe

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So in Chronicles of Narnia I find the idea of people who are essentially fantastic medieval kings and queens removed from their world to a modern, more mundane one that they are already familiar with interesting, and something that there's not much exploration of. There's a couple short fics that sort of explore it, but it feels like there's not enough for them to do... so I was thinking, Chronicles of Narnia crossed with a world like A Study In Emerald, with the Pevensies returning from freeing Narnia from the Witch to a world under a subtler but no less terrible rule.
Well, there's always Theodora Goss' England under the White Witch, aka, "what if Jadis didn't temporarily lose her powers during her visit to nineteen-hundreds London."
The Magician's Nephew by C. S. Lewis said:
And, if possible, she must not be allowed to go rampaging about London either. Digory had not been in the drawing room when she tried to "blast" Aunt Letty, but he had seen her "blast" the gates at Charn: so he knew her terrible powers and did not know that she had lost any of them by coming into our world. And he knew she meant to conquer our world. At the present moment, as far as he could see, she might be blasting Buckingham Palace or the Houses of Parliament: and it was almost certain that quite a number of policemen had by now been reduced to little heaps of dust. And there didn’t seem to be anything he could do about that.
Or I guess, /tg/'s An Ancient Evil Oversleeps.
 

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Bassoe

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Eh, this a cool fic but doesn't really hit the themes or the notes I'd want here, really. Stuff like Disarmed or The Curious Incident of the Man with the Gun is closer, except they have less fire and more nostalgia.
???

OK, try this; the year is 2050 and the technocratic tyranny is victorious.


Right up until, with the English population facing inescapable enslavement and obliteration, England's Greatest Hour Of Need comes and brings with it an Outside Context Problem.
 

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Arrow idea that I've had off and on for a while.

Point of departure: Felicity doesn't pull off magic just in time hacking in S1E16 (Dead to Rights) and so Malcolm Merlyn dies to Deadshots bullet while Oliver and McKenna are having a romantic dinner.

When Oliver reviews the security footage, he recognizes China White and goes full Hood on her/the Triad and forces her to tell him who hired her for the assassination; she tells him it was Moria before he kills her.

Around the same time, Talia contacts Oliver and tells him that Ra's has sent his heir to Starling to find out what happened to his former horseman. This leads to her telling him about the League and her relationship to it, and about the traditional penalties that the League hands out to any who kill their own in cold blood (which this absolutely counts as).

Again, around the same time, Tommy gets into his dads vault in his office and shows it to Oliver. Oliver, as the Hood also forces Moria to tell him why she had Malcolm killed.

Oliver gets Talia to arrange a meeting for him with Nyssa where he (Oliver) takes responsibility for the assassination and explains about the Undertaking and what Malcolm was up to. Nyssa decides to bring him to Ra's alive (partially because Sara is there with her). Oliver challenges Ra's to trial by combat and is killed, but Talia takes his body from the bottom of the mountain and tosses it into her Lazarus Pit to bring him back. Officially, with his trial, the Malcom matter is closed and the slate wiped clean.

However, when Oliver shows up back in Starling alive Ra's decides to visit him and recruit him to be his Heir. Talia had told Oliver this would happen, and it is part of their plan.

Oliver gets trained, Ra's orders his marriage to Talia, and then Ra's tells him about the Alpha & Omega and Oliver once more challenges Ra's to trial by combat, this time for control over the league as is his right as the acknowledged heir. Oliver kills Ra's and takes the position.

Timeline wise, this is basically Season 2. Without the Undertaking and the damage caused by Moria's public confession of it, Slade doesn't make the same moves. Haven't really decided the exact timing of everything.

Oliver comes back to Starling with Sara in tow. The "official" explanation given to her family was that Lian Yu was a PRC black site that they both washed up on the shore of and got to enjoy the "tender" mercies of for a year before there was a prison break, which is when Oliver and Sara found one another. The prisoners were not so nice people, and PRC spec ops teams were also sent in to kill everyone on the island. Sara escaped with some of the other prisoners but found herself a "guest" of Not-Nice people.

Oliver became aware of Sara's survival and so used his not inconsiderable resources, and favors, to get her freed and the "Not-Nice" people dealt with.
 

The Whispering Monk

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Man, you just did a lot with that. I think the biggest thing here is Ras Al'ghul dying to Oliver and now Oliver being in charge of the League. So...now Oliver has to contend with ruling a ruthless, semi-bloodthirsty organization looking for a reason to exist, which he's got to do while he's running Queen AND being the Arrow. Dang this guy's docket just got REALLY full.

Hmm...I imagine that he is going to deputize Talia (or maybe even Nyssa?) to run the League for him.

Sara is in the know, and could supplement the Arrow's activities in Starling along with Team Arrow so Oliver isn't as heavily worked there as well.

Hmm...what does Deathstroke do...? It's been a long time since I watched so I'm not sure of everything going on at this 'time'. This one I don't have an answer for.
 

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Man, you just did a lot with that. I think the biggest thing here is Ras Al'ghul dying to Oliver and now Oliver being in charge of the League. So...now Oliver has to contend with ruling a ruthless, semi-bloodthirsty organization looking for a reason to exist, which he's got to do while he's running Queen AND being the Arrow. Dang this guy's docket just got REALLY full.

Hmm...I imagine that he is going to deputize Talia (or maybe even Nyssa?) to run the League for him.

Sara is in the know, and could supplement the Arrow's activities in Starling along with Team Arrow so Oliver isn't as heavily worked there as well.

Hmm...what does Deathstroke do...? It's been a long time since I watched so I'm not sure of everything going on at this 'time'. This one I don't have an answer for.

I mean the League has a reason to exist, and is generally active. And remember, this is Season 1 Oliver; before he went pussy and CW made it the All About Felicity Show. Turning the League loose on Starling to purge the list basically wholesale?

And there is always terrorists, human traffickers, HIVE, etc. for him to target.

As for running QC, Moria is still alive and free. It's also before the Undertaking and Slade, so they still have all of the stock sewn up tight and the company is still healthy. Finding a trustworthy CEO might be a bit difficult but then he is Ra's al Ghul, and if nothing else Malcolm's death is all the excuse needed to justify a permanent security team on that CEO - one that could easily be made up of League people. And this assumes that he can't get Walter to stay on as CEO at least temporarily.

For running the League, he has Talia, Nyssa, and Maseo who all have the clout to be his deputy. So probably one of them in League HQ at any given time.

His Arrow duties just got drastically easier as well. I mean he has the Leagues resources to draw upon, and unlike Dig that includes people who can credibly fake being the Arrow. Oliver sits at a dinner party with everyone who is anyone, including people like the state AG, the DA, the Mayor, etc. and the Arrow does something on the other side of the city at the same time. He is also no longer one man working alone, but instead commands an army of the most skilled operatives on the planet; ones who are fanatically loyal to him.

Then remember that he is also a Bratva Captain in good standing, and one who left Russia a year ago with one scary reputation. And his relationship with Waller.

Season 1 Oliver is Batman who is perfectly willing to flay men alive when it comes to personal ability and morality. He is a Bratva Captain who is probably the single most trusted individual in the entire organization to its leader, and one who earned that position with rivers of blood. He trades favors with Amanda Waller. He is the heir to a multi billion dollar fortune and a multi-national corporation. He is the student of Talia al Ghul.

If Oliver ever decided to be somewhat more strategic and less tactical in his operations, he had the talent, connections, and resources to be one truly scary mother fucker. Now throw the League on top of all of that.

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As for Slade, I'm kinda thinking about a team up between him and HIVE. I mean his canon plans don't really work so well without the Undertaking and the attendant fallout, and if Darhk found out that he was Ra's he might reasonably be in a position to connect Oliver to Slade and so recruit him. Darhk wants Starling because of the magical nexus under it, which means he needs to take a city under Ra's al Ghul's personal protection and with a heavy League presence. Using Slade as a patsy and an overt enemy to distract Oliver/the League while he moves HIVE into position seems entirely reasonable. Getting some Mirakuru Ghosts would also probably tickle his fancy.

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In entirely separate news, why the fuck did CW have to make Felicity the love interest? Seriously, why? Pretty much 90% of why everything post Season 3 sucked (and most of the sucky parts of S3) can be laid at the feet of Mary Sue Felicity. You want a relationship that made Oliver a strictly worse person both as a character and from an IC perspective, it was his one with Felicity.
 

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Hmm, another Arrow plot bunny idea.

What if Slade actually died on the Amazo? No Mirakuru in season 2, might still have Isabel trying for revenge and you could spin something with her and Blood working together but maybe not.

I mean no Slade means no need for Sara to return to the League. Moria likely becomes Mayor. Oliver remains in control of QC. No Ray Palmer becoming the Atom because his fiance doesn't die. No Barry meeting Oliver or finding out his ID.
 

bintananth

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I've got a "shipgirl shenanigans" Kancolle idea I'm not sure what to do with:

Someone from the present day wakes up on a random beach near the start of WWII. While figuring out where and when they are* they realize that they're the spirit of a modern warship.

* Doable entirely by hand using the Sunrise Equation and a clock if you know the Taylor Series for f(x)=cos(x) along with basic addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division.
 

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Naruto's behavior over the last few weeks had been... Markedly unusual after they had returned from Wave Country. He'd been much quieter, much more focused in training. He hadn't spoken nearly as much as he used to. He took things very seriously.

In a word, Kakashi, Sakura, and even Sasuke were all worried about him. Not that the Last Uchiha would ever deign to show it, but he had taken a step of extraordinary caring for him.

"Naruto," Sasuke stated, as they finished their last D-Rank of the day, "let's go get ramen."

Naruto actually brightened at this, briefly... And then he shook his head.

"I would love to," he admitted, "but uh... I've gotta go. I've got... To water my plants!"

"Can't you use your Shadow Clones for that?" Sakura piped up, following Sasuke's lead and leaning over Sasuke's shoulder. "I-I mean... We can all go!"

Naruto shook his head, and affected a stupid grin that seemed... Inauthentic. Warning bells were going off in Kakashi's mind, even as he pretended to read his Icha Icha.

"Ahhh... Tempting, but I've gotta go. We'll do it later!"

He vanished in a puff of smoke, and Kakashi watched his most unpredictable student run off in the distance. Kakashi shared a concerned look with his other students.

"Sensei," Sakura said, "I mean... He is Naruto, right?"

Kakashi nodded.

"I presume you've done your own genjutsu checks," Kakashi said, and Sakura blushed and nodded, "and yes... He is Naruto."

"Then what's going on?" Sakura asked, scowling.

Sasuke scowled as well, deeper than before.

Sakura looked up at her sensei.

"Can't you talk to him?" Sakura asked. Kakashi frowned, and shrugged.

"It hasn't negatively affected his performance," Kakashi said, "but it is... Unusual."

He shrugged, and then vanished via Shunshin, leaving two curious students.

- - -

Sasuke wasn't the top of his class merely due to Uchiha arrogance. He was a dedicated student and he strived to understand what was going on. Granted, he could get hyper focused on his goals... He would admit to that... With some reluctance. That served him just fine here though, as something was going on with his teammate.

A deeper mystery than the one about his mysterious, frightening power. One that Sakura had described. One he didn't believe, and yet with how strange the infamous deadlast was acting...

Sakura insisted on coming, and he allowed her. She was at least willing to defer to him, and not be her usual annoying self.

Naruto was surprisingly adept at evasion, and was doubling back and evading like he knew someone was following him. It was a challenge even for Sasuke to stay out of his sight, but manage it Sasuke and Sakura did.

A bit of Sakura's genjutsu knowledge had helped them hide. A bit of assistance he hadn't anticipated, but appreciated.

Naruto had only made one stop at a grocer's. He had adopted the henge of a woman, and bought... Milk, diapers, and other groceries.

Diapers...? Sakura mouthed aloud.

At last, Naruto came to an apartment building, lacking any other residents but him. He swung in through the window. Sasuke landed softly on the landing of the apartment, and slowly, carefully peeked in through the open window. Sakura landed right after him, just as quiet.

They could see Naruto's Shadow clones, busily cooking, cleaning-One was even in an apron. It was uncharacteristically domestic, something he couldn't associate with the loudmouth.

The tip of a kunai pressed against the back of his neck, and Sasuke stiffened. Sakura gasped.

"Stand up, nice and slow," Naruto growled. Sasuke took a deep breath. The sheer rancor in the other boy's voice...

"Naruto," Sasuke began slowly, "what is this? We're teammates."

"What's gotten into you, Naruto?" Sakura gasped.

"Stand up slowly and then leave, Sasuke," Naruto stated again. Something was seriously wrong. Sasuke grit his teeth, but slowly stood up.

"Naruto, I'm not your enemy," Sasuke insisted, "let me help you-"

"Just turn and leave, you two," Naruto growled, "I can't-!"

Sasuke moved, grabbing Naruto's wrist and swinging him through the window. Naruto slammed into the bed, and poofed into smoke. A dozen more Narutos appeared out of nowhere, charging Sasuke. He leaped into the bedroom, dispatching one, and then another, another's punches striking him across his shoulder. He lashed out with a kick, slamming another clone into the end table. It smashed the end table up against the wall, loudly, before the clone poofed into smoke.

"NARUTO WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?!" Sakura roared, even as she cowered.

And then a loud cry filled the apartment, making all the combatants freeze. All the Narutos groaned.

"Oh damnit!" One sighed. Another Naruto walked in from the kitchen, looking exhausted. While it was hard to tell, Sakura could guess it was the real one by the bags under his eyes. The obvious reason for that though was...

"A baby?!" Sasuke demanded in shock, as a tiny infant wailed in Naruto's arms, "you have a baby?!"

"Shut up Bastard, you're scaring her!" Naruto growled, cradling the infant protectively. The baby kept wailing, even as Naruto rocked her.

Sakura felt like her entire world had just unraveled and turned upside down. Sasuke wasn't much better.

A clone in Sexy Jutsu form came in from the kitchen, and handed the real one a bottle. Naruto made soothing sounds to the baby, and gave the infant her bottle. Her cries quieted, as she suckled from the bottle. Sasuke's mouth had been closed at some point, but he really couldn't remember a time it hadn't been hanging open right now.

"You... You have a baby?!" Sakura gasped. Naruto groaned, closing his eyes.

"Yes, I have a baby Sakura-chan," Naruto sighed.

"How-How do you have a baby?!" Sakura demanded. "Why do you have a baby?!"

"She was an orphan in Wave!" Naruto cried, "I found her-All alone in a shack, parents dead-I couldn't just leave her there!"

"So you brought a baby back?!" Sasuke demanded. "How?! How could you hide that?!"

"Hey, I'm not as big an idiot as I look, okay?" Naruto shot back.

"Says the guy who adopted a baby without telling any of us!" Sakura cried. "How could you-Why would you-?!"

"Hey!" Naruto growled, cuddling the baby protectively, "she's an orphan! Just like me! What was I supposed to do, just leave her there?!"

Sasuke stared at the helpless infant, suckling away from the bottle. He looked back at Naruto, who was giving the tiny baby a deeply caring look. One he recalled on the face of his own parents, or that man, looking down at him.

"I..." Sakura began, "I... I don't know. Why couldn't you tell us?! Have you been hiding this from everyone?!"

Naruto winced.

"Well... I mean... N-Not... Everyone," he admitted.

The front door opened. A blushing form entered, carrying some bags.

"N-Naruto-kun, I'm back with-" Hinata Hyuuga gasped, and dropped her bags all over the floor. "O-Oh my!"

"Hinata helped me sneak her in!" Naruto said with a smile, "and she's been helping me raise Kasumi. She saw me bring a baby in, but didn't say anything!" He grinned tiredly at Hinata, "she's such a good friend!"

Hinata blushed an even darker red, and held her hands up over her face. Naruto blinked.

"I don't know why she was watching me but... Ya know..." He shrugged. "So... Um... Please, don't tell anyone?"

Sasuke was scowling deeply. Not only was the Deadlast able to get the drop on him (twice!) he was also able to fool the entire village! And he had a baby on top of everything?! A little orphan?!

He could understand the feeling of compassion though. Seeing a helpless infant, an orphan... He could respect the idiot's convictions, at least.

"I... Well, I mean," Sakura said, "I mean... This is kind of a really... Really big secret. You've told the Hokage at least, right?"

Naruto and Hinata looked very guilty. Sakura gasped.

"SERIOUSLY?!"

"WAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!"

"Sakura!" Hinata admonished, "how could you?!"

"S-Sorry!" Sakura cried, as Kasumi screamed in fright and Hinata and Naruto tried to calm her down.

Sasuke sighed, and pinched the bridge of his nose.

These fools would drive him to leave the village, he just knew it.

If he didn't go crazy first.

- - -

Is it stupid? Yes.

Is it something Naruto is stupid enough to do? Oh yes.
 

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Is it stupid? Yes.

Is it something Naruto is stupid enough to do? Oh yes.
Yeah, especially after what happened in Wave. Wonder what the adopted girl's relationship with Boruto and Himawari would be like. I think Himwari would adore her, especially if she grew to be a fairly powerful ninja in her own right. Boruto might be addled with yet another complex as his subconciousness would claim his parents had time for her but not for him. Or maybe the whole thing taught Naruto to pace his time and spend time with his family.
 

Blasterbot

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Naruto turning into an absentee father was what killed boruto for me. could see him being bad at it or making mistakes. never just not being there.

on the idea of the story it works great. i could just see a bunch of jonin watching this and making sure things are fine for the baby while letting the genin think they can keep it secret.
 
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Aaron Fox

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A crazy idea but an idea nonetheless: Kane isn't just in the CnC Red Alert/Tiberium timelines but in quite a few others... including Horizon Zero Dawn.

When the Apocalypse was happening, HZD!Kane (being the magnificent bastard that tried to take everything into account he was) activated CABAL (this time using alien code on human hardware instead of a mix of human brains and hybrid human/alien computer code) with one overriding directive: Assist Zero Dawn. Using its own bunker complex and stolen technology, CABAL discovered that Zero Dawn has partially failed, somehow, and one of the 'Black List' signals is active. So, it decided to set up a base of operations and -using the HZD!Tacitus- constructed a trans-dimensional bridge, luring GDI to this version of Earth.

... and so begins GDI's attempt at trying to find out what the fuck happened on that version of Earth, why they were lured to the trans-dimensional bridge, and destroy the rogue robots that inhabit it because they don't fucking stop.
 

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