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Sobek

Disgusting Scalie
I meam, she is pretty much Boris Johnson in drag. Nothing changed policy wise or government wise. Of course things are just as bad as before.

Get her out, put someone decent.
 

WolfBear

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I'm not ATP, but... guy was a dumbass, from what little I know about him. He was politically adept, but nearly lost Stalingrad. And before then, every time he faced a competent German general, he lost the battle. Mostly because he absolutely refused to account for... well, the enemy. While he was good at technical side of things - managing his own troops - he'd act as if the enemy was just going to bend over and accept the kick. So every time he ran across a competent opponent (von Paulus, Model) he received a beating, unless literally everything was stacked in his favor beforehand (as at Stalingrad).

Seelow Heights comes to mind:


It was a Soviet victory but also rather bloody.
 

Bacle

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Guess CPAC doesn't want a 'Red Wave' next month, if this is how they are going to portray the situation in Ukraine.

@Spartan303 @S'task @LordSunhawk What the ever loving fuck is going on inside the GOP leadership that they thought this was at all a good idea?
 

Bacle

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I have no idea what you're talking about. Care to enlighten me?
Did you not see what the CPAC tweet is saying in that screenshot?

CPAC referred to the parts of Ukraine Russia has 'annexed' as 'Ukrainian occupied territories' and refers to the aid given to Ukraine as 'gift-giving', trying to make this a matter of 'we should use the money we are sending to Ukraine on the Southern Border.'

And this is fucking CPAC saying this in their official twitter.
 

Spartan303

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Did you not see what the CPAC tweet is saying in that screenshot?

CPAC referred to the parts of Ukraine Russia has 'annexed' as 'Ukrainian occupied territories' and refers to the aid given to Ukraine as 'gift-giving', trying to make this a matter of 'we should use the money we are sending to Ukraine on the Southern Border.'

And this is fucking CPAC saying this in their official twitter.


And? If you had even bothered to pay attention to anything Republicans say you'd know the answer to this already. We've sent to Ukraine between 15 to 30 Billion in aid for them to defend their border, yet the Demonrats in Congress and their Rino allies couldn't be bothered to spare 10 Billion to secure our own! We are also 30 Trillion in debt and Congress is spending our money like they don't have a care in the world or any fucks to give about how we feel on it. We can not afford this, yet they don't care. Our Economy is in the toilet and yet Biden just gave tens of billions to help the Ukrainian economy out of its slump! At our expense, when we can't afford it. Do you not get it!? Is this so hard to understand? People are fucking tired of this shit! We have sympathy for Ukraine and what they're going through, but we can't help anyone of we can't help ourselves. And we are struggling. Meanwhile our Congress critters and the Donut in Chief are happy to pillage our economy for everything they can get before they lose control of it.

Is this simple enough for you to understand?
 

Bacle

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And? If you has even bothered to pay attention to anything Republicans say you'd know the answer to this already. We've sent to Ukraine between 15 to 30 Billion in aid for them to defend their border, yet the Demonrats in Congress and their Rino allies couldn't be bothered to spare 10 Billion to secure our own! We are also 30 Trillion in debt and Congress is spending our money like they don't have a care in the world or any fucks to give about how we feel on it. We can not afford this, yet they don't care. Our Economy is in the toilet and yet Biden just gave tens of billions to help the Ukrainian economy out of its slump! At our expense, when we can't afford it. Do you not get it!? Is this so hard to understand? People are fucking tired of this shit! We have sympathy for Ukraine and what they're going through, but we can't help anyone of we can't help ourselves. And we are struggling. Meanwhile our Congress critters and the Donut in Chief are happy to pillage our economy for everything they can get before they lose control of it.

Is this simple enough for you to understand?
I understand that phrasing the annexation and current status of those areas as 'Ukrainian occupied' helps lend legitimacy to Putin's claims and acts like those regions now belong to Russia.

I also understand 'fiscal conservatism' and complaints around it are a mostly a farce, and have been since we went off the Gold Standard to fiat currency the Federal Reserve can manipulate at will to do whatever they want.

The old ideology of 'fiscal conservatism' being the old standby for GOP rhetoric doesn't hold much sway outside the hardcore GOP base, and when the complaint is made to seem like aiding Ukraine is 'gift-giving', it makes it so much easier to paint the GOP as the party of Russia appeasers to much of the public, particularly after the years of the 'Trump-Russia Collusion Hoax' was spammed by the media.

Edit: Like, do you get that on the national level, the shit going on in Ukraine tends to matter more to the average person these days than the border, thanks to how retarded Putin has gotten?
It's still terrible framing for CPAC to use.

Simply demanding that equal funds be sent to secure our own border would make the point just as aggressively, without also pissing off the parts of the right that support the war in Ukraine.
Yes this.

Getting funds for the border wall is important and a good cause.

Making it about funding the border wall or funding/aiding Ukraine just makes it all that much easier for normies to by the lies about the GOP being 'Russia-friendly'.
 

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