VictortheMonarch
Victor the Crusader
I went back and checked and its much further south.
Potential Civil War or Succession Crisis in Ethiopias Northern Tigray Region
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Trying to make that area into a resevior would first require lining most of the area with some sort of clay, otherwise the water will just until into the sand and run out under it.
Though realistically, it's not going to happen; simply too many engineering challenges that require expensive and large scale investments to even try to deal with for it to ever be economical.
Though realistically, it's not going to happen; simply too many engineering challenges that require expensive and large scale investments to even try to deal with for it to ever be economical.
In the two months since the November Peace Deal, the work in "restoring law and order" as well as other infrastructure and connections has been moving along at pace. Ethio Telecom, Ethiopia's State run telecommunications company is restoring phone and internet access to urban areas in Tigray, banking services are coming back, humanitarian aid restrictions being lifted, areas are being reconnected to the National Electric Grid and as stated below, 'domestic' flights between Addis Abada, Ethiopia's Capitol and Mekelle, Tigray's Capitol, have resumed reuniting families who haven't heard from each over for almost two years.
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www.reuters.com
Here's some of the details of the Peace Deal the TPLF of Tigray and the Ethiopian Government reached in early November, after days of African Union led negotiations between both factions in South Africa under the stewardship of former Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo.
www.aljazeera.com
An estimated 300,000 people have been killed in the conflict, of which less than ten thousand combined are believed to be military deaths. There's also still fighting in Ethiopia as the Tigray War wasn't the only civil conflict going on.
Tears, prayers and hopes as flights to Ethiopia's war-torn Tigray resume
Kahssay Hailu sobbed, smiled and said prayers as she stood outside Addis Ababa airport, preparing to board a plane home to Ethiopia's war-torn region of Tigray.
www.reuters.com
Here's some of the details of the Peace Deal the TPLF of Tigray and the Ethiopian Government reached in early November, after days of African Union led negotiations between both factions in South Africa under the stewardship of former Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo.
Al Jazeera said:
Five key takeaways from the Ethiopia peace deal
The peace agreement ends hostilities between Ethiopia’s federal goverment and Tigrayan forces, restoring law and order.
An estimated 300,000 people have been killed in the conflict, of which less than ten thousand combined are believed to be military deaths. There's also still fighting in Ethiopia as the Tigray War wasn't the only civil conflict going on.
They were "winning" it seemed insofar as having more recent battlefield success. They managed to push the Tigrayans back into Tigray after all.
But yeah Tigray is part of Ethiopia again and the TPLF have disarmed.
So, no hope at all of either Tigray or Oromia independence, right?
Not anytime in the foreseeable future. Ethiopia had managed to successfully isolate Tigray despite the seesaw nature of the conflict plus had access to the rest of the outside world still. That included arms imported from countries as diverse as Iran, Israel and the United Arab Emirates as well as being able to have Eritrea open a second front on the opposite side of Tigray.
Confirmed Arms Transfers To The Ethiopian Military During The Tigray War
Not anytime in the foreseeable future. Ethiopia had managed to successfully isolate Tigray despite the seesaw nature of the conflict plus had access to the rest of the outside world still. That included arms imported from countries as diverse as Iran, Israel and the United Arab Emirates as well as being able to have Eritrea open a second front on the opposite side of Tigray.
Confirmed Arms Transfers To The Ethiopian Military During The Tigray War
www.oryxspioenkop.com
my money was that a lot of the supplies were handed off by Egypt, Ethiopia was planning to create a damn that would give them control over the Nile something that is an existential threat to Egypts survival as a country. They were going to do what ever they could to prevent that.
Another interesting article from Militant Wire just released on the diverse weapon suppliers of the Ethiopian National Defense Forces. Specifically Iran, Turkey and Azerbaijan.
Iran provided them Mohajer-6 UCAV's which were involved in several key airstrikes utilizing Qaem air-to-ground guided muntions/glide bombs as well as Iranian-variants of the AK-103 assault rifle and SVD Marksman Rifles, the KL-103 and Hoshdar-M respectively.
Turkey meanwhile offered use of the better known Bayraktar UCAV's and their MAM-L Guided Munitions.
Meanwhile Azeri mortar bombs were captured by Oromo Rebel Groups despite Azerbaijan not even being suspected of arming the Ethiopian military but they were apparently dispatched to Ethiopia shortly after being manufactured in Azerbaijan so potentially were also supplied by Turkey operating as the middle man.
www.militantwire.com
Iran provided them Mohajer-6 UCAV's which were involved in several key airstrikes utilizing Qaem air-to-ground guided muntions/glide bombs as well as Iranian-variants of the AK-103 assault rifle and SVD Marksman Rifles, the KL-103 and Hoshdar-M respectively.
Turkey meanwhile offered use of the better known Bayraktar UCAV's and their MAM-L Guided Munitions.
Meanwhile Azeri mortar bombs were captured by Oromo Rebel Groups despite Azerbaijan not even being suspected of arming the Ethiopian military but they were apparently dispatched to Ethiopia shortly after being manufactured in Azerbaijan so potentially were also supplied by Turkey operating as the middle man.
MW Exclusive: Ethiopia Using Weapons Supplied by Iran, Turkey, and Azerbaijan
Ethiopian Forces were supplied with a range of weapons from various countries over the past years. As the Ethiopian National Defense Forces (ENDF) were fighting the Tigray People's Liberation Front (TPLF) and the Oromo Liberation Army (OLA), the government of Ethiopia bought a large number of...
www.militantwire.com
With that said, the Oromo Liberation Army is still fighting apparently.
They just released a manifesto today apparently.
An article by El Pais really put the scale of the Tigray War in perspectivel.
english.elpais.com
Apparently the previous estimation of 300,000 deaths (with only 10,000 military deaths) was a pretty strong underestimation potentially. The United Nations estimates 500,000 dead but other groups are cited anywhere between 600-800,000 deaths, almost all of them civilians still. The further estimates are that 10% died due to bombings and massacres, 30% due to lack of medical aid/assistance and 60% due to the partially engineered famine and thus hundred dying per day.
All of this is just numbers, so as a perspective, the article also quoted the recent estimates of deaths in the Syrian Civil War (which has been going on since 2011) and the Yemeni Civil War (since 2015) where 307,000 and 377,000 have been estimated killed in those conflicts respectively through the end of 2021. And in Russia's Special Military Operation in Ukraine, around 7,000 Ukrainian civilians are estimated to have been killed in less than a year. It's entirely possible that two years of the Tigray War killed more civilians than in sixteen or so years of War in Syria, Yemen and even Ukraine combined.
Ethiopia’s forgotten war is the deadliest of the 21st century, with around 600,000 civilian deaths
Estimates by European institutions and academics say over half a million non-combatants have died during the Tigray conflict as a result of a government blockade that kept out humanitarian aid
english.elpais.com
Apparently the previous estimation of 300,000 deaths (with only 10,000 military deaths) was a pretty strong underestimation potentially. The United Nations estimates 500,000 dead but other groups are cited anywhere between 600-800,000 deaths, almost all of them civilians still. The further estimates are that 10% died due to bombings and massacres, 30% due to lack of medical aid/assistance and 60% due to the partially engineered famine and thus hundred dying per day.
All of this is just numbers, so as a perspective, the article also quoted the recent estimates of deaths in the Syrian Civil War (which has been going on since 2011) and the Yemeni Civil War (since 2015) where 307,000 and 377,000 have been estimated killed in those conflicts respectively through the end of 2021. And in Russia's Special Military Operation in Ukraine, around 7,000 Ukrainian civilians are estimated to have been killed in less than a year. It's entirely possible that two years of the Tigray War killed more civilians than in sixteen or so years of War in Syria, Yemen and even Ukraine combined.
Whoever put forward this number is spewing bullshit; actually estimates, per Ziehan, are 250k to 300k Ukrainian civilians killed so far in the conflict.
What happened at Bucha is estimated to have happened about 70 other times behind the Russian advance, and teh missile strikes are still taking a toll.
This war might be deadlier due to the famine, but that lowball of Ukrainian casualties is rather suspicious and hurts the credibility of the whole article.
honestly I think Ethiopia is in full fog of war and we wont know the exact numbers until the war is over.
They cited the United Nations like they did for the casualties of each of the other conflicts cited in the article.
A peace settlement was signed between Tigray and the Ethiopian government back in November of 2022 which is why the estimations of dead are coming out and seem to be higher then before since Aid groups and whatever are finally being allowed into the region.
Yeah, and something tells me the UN's numbers for Ukraine are a lot less reliable than for Ethopia; Ethopia doesn't have veto power like Russia does, and this is not an ongoing conflict like Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
And Ethiopia does not have a massive propaganda machine controlled by SD backing it up.
An article I encountered, its detailing how a couple weeks ago, Ethiopian government forces apparently perpetrated a massacre, literally going door to door in a location within the Amhara region of Ethiopia, killing people.
www.theguardian.com
The Fano were the targets of the Ethiopian Federal Security Forces which is a shift from a couple years ago when the Fano were one of the premier militia groups that was fighting alongside the Ethiopian Government against the rebel Tigrayans in the Tigray War which ended in 2022.
Apparently conflict erupted between the Fano Militia in Amhara and the Ethiopian Government over the implementation of a plan to disarm the many regional armed groups that populate Ethiopia still in the wake of the end of the Tigray War.
Dozens of civilians killed by Ethiopian state troops in Amhara region, say reports
Witnesses claim victims shot ‘execution style’ during house raids after clashes between government forces and Fano rebels
www.theguardian.com
The Fano were the targets of the Ethiopian Federal Security Forces which is a shift from a couple years ago when the Fano were one of the premier militia groups that was fighting alongside the Ethiopian Government against the rebel Tigrayans in the Tigray War which ended in 2022.
Apparently conflict erupted between the Fano Militia in Amhara and the Ethiopian Government over the implementation of a plan to disarm the many regional armed groups that populate Ethiopia still in the wake of the end of the Tigray War.