Realistic threats to the F22

[Zachowon]

I am making this because I wonder, are there any fighter aircraft that could be considered a true threat to the F22? The J-20? the SU-57? The F35?

Perhaps the newer SAM stystems could be considered a threat as well.

What is everyones take on this?

 

[Marduk]

My guesses would be:
At the right range and setup, recent SAM systems linked to large and highly capable radar systems, like non-export S-400, or any missile that can be adapted to be guided by similar radars.

Any gen 4 or higher fighter with top of the line IR or other non radar guided missiles and the above or a FLIR for spotting, assuming it can get in range to use such.

 

[Zachowon]

My guesses would be:
At the right range and setup, recent SAM systems linked to large and highly capable radar systems, like non-export S-400, or any missile that can be adapted to be guided by similar radars.

Any gen 4 or higher fighter with top of the line IR or other non radar guided missiles and the above or a FLIR for spotting, assuming it can get in range to use such.

SAM i figured, but they would have to be able to keep lock on. May be hard.
Really think 4th gen could stand a chance?

 

[Marduk]

SAM i figured, but they would have to be able to keep lock on. May be hard.

Depends on distance from the radar, aspect, and whether the F-22 has external stores.
Stealth is never a binary, its always a matter of how far from the radar can the aircraft afford to be until it reflects enough to worry. How far is far enough? That's what both Russian and US military intelligence certainly work hard to find out while not letting the other know, and as such, all the data needed to calculate that is certainly very classified.

Really think 4th gen could stand a chance?

Given the right tactical situation, top of the line missile (AIM-9X grade), and systems modernization to go with using it to full capability, yes. So we're not talking your average F-16C from the 80's, but something like F-16V.

 

[Zachowon]

Depends on distance from the radar, aspect, and whether the F-22 has external stores.
Stealth is never a binary, its always a matter of how far from the radar can the aircraft afford to be until it reflects enough to worry. How far is far enough? That's what both Russian and US military intelligence certainly work hard to find out while not letting the other know, and as such, all the data needed to calculate that is certainly very classified.

Given the right tactical situation, top of the line missiles and systems modernization to go with it, yes.

Even woth the top of the line stuff given to the F22?

 

[Marduk]

Even woth the top of the line stuff given to the F22?

Yeah, it boils down to who fires enough missiles in the right circumstances first, and that in turn varies with tactical situation - though thanks to stealth F-22 has an advantage there in many situations.

 

[Sailor.X]

Any Directed Energy weapons system. Laser are helluva dangerous to any Aircraft including the F-22.

 

[Free-Stater 101]

A crop duster! Provided you manage to crash into one that's grounded.