SCOTUS Getting Shade Over Roe v Wade

Bear Ribs

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While true, the fact is that as abhorrent as the MIC is, we are seeing why it exist with Putin going full retard over Ukraine.

Kind words to not dissuade genocidal madmen, bullets do, and unfortunately genocidal madmen turn out to be distressingly common as leaders in some parts of the world.

The US can be better about civie casualties, and actually punish people for bad intel calls that cost civies lives; however the money going into the MIC still is showing it's worth, after many decades of frivolous and stupid conflicts.
The fact we tax our troops, particularity the Enlisted who make pretty poor wages, is actually kinda fucked up.

Like, the US public is already paying for you to be there, get trained, etc.; grunts having to pay taxes on the money they make serving seems like the US gov double dipping on the revenue stream to get more money on paper, but not actually in people's pockets or the treasury.

You don't tax a Abram's hull, and from a military perspective both a tank and soldier are effectively just replaceable equipment.

Seems wrong on a certain level to first pay for our troops, as taxpayers, then have the gov turn around a double dip by taxing that wage.

I mean I get taxing non-gov work soldiers do, like with reservists, and taxing officers who do civie 'consulting' from the consulting fees they collect. Plus the usual stock transaction taxes and other non-military work taxes.

Like, if the US gov really wants to up recruiting, make all enlisted wages tax-exempt.
As an experienced tax preparer, I can verify that combat pay, which is pretty much anything while deployed, is tax exempt. Pay during normal day-to-day operations is taxable but having done many military personnel taxes, that's not a very big part of their pay.
 

Bacle

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You do if you get deployed.
But we are working class Americans. Gotta get taxed.
We pay our own salary
As an experienced tax preparer, I can verify that combat pay, which is pretty much anything while deployed, is tax exempt. Pay during normal day-to-day operations is taxable but having done many military personnel taxes, that's not a very big part of their pay.
...it should all be tax exempt for enlisted, not just deployed pay.

Just doesn't feel right for you all to pay your own salaries, when the gov tells the rest of us we are the one's paying them.
 

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And mot just deployed to combat.
Rotations to Europe and Korea count.
Mot being stationed but being deployed/rotation
 

WolfBear

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Then it is leftist interpretation of Constitution.Which also let them to intervene in any way to prosecute normal people and made lgbt+52 new ruling class.
Otherwise,we would have pederast "marriages" long ago.

Pederasts can get married just so long as it is to other adults, even to childlike-looking adults.

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War always kills the innocent. The mil industrial complex loves wars cause they get sweet sweet cash to manufacture weapons that will end up being used to kill kids, and all for nothing that helps America. This new policy is just a further extension of that "kill for cash" mindset: the military would prefer soldiers get abortions so they don't take leave, again killing for cash.

I didn't know that you are a pro-life libertarian!
 

Abhorsen

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You donknow the money that goes to the MIC comes back to the US right since they are US owned and have to pay taxes?
Huh wierd....
"Oh, don't worry about the thief. They'll spend most of the money in the local area so it'll get back to you". Do you actually think about what you are posting?

Meanwhile, I have the same opinion here that I've had in other places: stop killing kids for cash. Not a hard concept to get behind, you would think.

I didn't know that you are a pro-life libertarian!
I, as I've said previously, believe life starts at earliest 8 weeks, at latest 15 (depends on when some form of thought begins). I think laws should thus ban it at 8 weeks (for the same reason it bans murder) until we get some actual (ethical) research giving us better info.
 

Bear Ribs

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...it should all be tax exempt for enlisted, not just deployed pay.

Just doesn't feel right for you all to pay your own salaries, when the gov tells the rest of us we are the one's paying them.
Eh, it provides a certain amount of benefit for making sure soldiers actually want to do crap assignments. Your whole time crammed in a submarine is untaxable, the dude who instead deployed to California and is enjoying the weather there gets taxed. It provides a bit of incentive.
 

Zachowon

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"Oh, don't worry about the thief. They'll spend most of the money in the local area so it'll get back to you". Do you actually think about what you are posting?

Meanwhile, I have the same opinion here that I've had in other places: stop killing kids for cash. Not a hard concept to get behind, you would think.


I, as I've said previously, believe life starts at earliest 8 weeks, at latest 15 (depends on when some form of thought begins). I think laws should thus ban it at 8 weeks (for the same reason it bans murder) until we get some actual (ethical) research giving us better info.
Welcome to war.
The MIC of the US is one of the things that is purely based in the US.
Because military cant use imported things.
Eh, it provides a certain amount of benefit for making sure soldiers actually want to do crap assignments. Your whole time crammed in a submarine is untaxable, the dude who instead deployed to California and is enjoying the weather there gets taxed. It provides a bit of incentive.
Yep.
20k bonus for some combat deployments untaxed helps as well
 

ATP

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"Oh, don't worry about the thief. They'll spend most of the money in the local area so it'll get back to you". Do you actually think about what you are posting?

Meanwhile, I have the same opinion here that I've had in other places: stop killing kids for cash. Not a hard concept to get behind, you would think.


I, as I've said previously, believe life starts at earliest 8 weeks, at latest 15 (depends on when some form of thought begins). I think laws should thus ban it at 8 weeks (for the same reason it bans murder) until we get some actual (ethical) research giving us better info.

You could belive in everything.Biology says,that in all mammals case,new specimen appear during fertilization.
You are not fighting God,church or even people - but biology on elementary school level.
 

Ixian

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You donknow the money that goes to the MIC comes back to the US right since they are US owned and have to pay taxes?
Huh wierd....

And the military is a federal entity.
It can pay for soldiers to travel for abortions.
Do you know how common they are in the military?
Not very common compared to civilian because more money and moving out if the barracks.

Honestly, most female military members who become pregnant aren't likely to abort anyway, because then they might be eligible for deployment.
 

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Framing.

It's always about Framing. Mainstream news has long been avowedly and proudly pro-abortion for a long time, and long ago established the narrative that it was the evil forced pregnancy anti-abortionists that were the violent ones. Even as violence was disavowed by the wider pro-life movement and was greatly reduced over time (and... given the recent Supreme Court decision the long term, nonviolent route paid off, as support for abortions rights was HIGHEST when pro-lifers had more violent attacks going on and waned over time as violence was disavowed), that narrative has persisted. If the media reported on violence against Pro-lifers it might sway moderates who are turned off by political violence further away from the pro-abortion side and they know it.

The media manipulates just as much by what they choose to report on and exclude as by other framing devices...
 

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