liberty90
Evil Neoliberal Cat
Is that a satire of people that constantly asks about tsunami risk (that is a risk only for coasts, literally not at all at the open sea)? XD
Seasteading: The Path of the Future?
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Is that a satire of people that constantly asks about tsunami risk (that is a risk only for coasts, literally not at all at the open sea)? XD
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Yes and no, but really I'd think people would be afraid to be eaten alive by even salt-water crocodiles
I wouldn't put it past them, they'd probably be afraid even somewhere up in the North Sea.
liberty90
Evil Neoliberal Cat
Even when risks of something are real, then less than 1% risk per year is not something that truly terrify rational people. That is basically a risk of living. I mean, utterly unaging humans would often die before the age of 600 out of accidents. Driving to the grocery store is a (low) risk to life.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
You underestimate how paranoid people can get, like being surrounded by the ocean where there's no land or other people for miles upon miles
There are a lot of things stronger then that paranoia.
Greed works, pride works, and a desire to escape. Think about how many places have been founded by people trying to get away from their former goverments.
That said like many others I don't think sea steading is a long term solution. I think outer space is a much better long term bet on the creation of new countries.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Okay, maybe they'll avoid looking at the ocean to avoid said paranoia whilst doing so though
And then as soon as they do so, a Mormon, Jehova's witness, or door-to-door salesman will rise out of the water like that Westworld scene parodied in the Simpsons or that scene from Land of the Dead.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Vid please
If it will assist your mental image, I only hope this isn't spamming the thread beyond what is acceptable.
More seriously, I actually do wonder if soliciting could still happen with seasteading and what form it might take. Probably, because the mental image of Mormons all dressed in their sunday best, being really nice, and knocking on someone's door in the middle of the ocean is too amusing the pass up.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
It may depend on how cheap ocean travel as well as the presence of seasteads becomes, alongside whether or not you can track them all
Bear Ribs
Well-known member
People who are that afraid of water will not choose to Seastead, much as people who are terrified of heights will not choose to live in cliffside dwellings and people terrified of ghosts will not move into supposedly haunted houses.
hyperspacewizard
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I’m mean while outer space colonization may be sexier and such I feel like seasteading even if it doesn’t lead to new artificial city states could have great uses I’m mean the oceans of the world are huge and that’s a lot of space not being used. I actually really hope seasteading takes off it feels like something for the younger generations to do and feel accomplished in going out and settling new land is a huge part of the human psyche I feel seasteading could be a way to channel that energy at least a little.
Doomsought
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Honestly, Any sort of flotation based sea steading will be a concrete hulled barge or pontoon like oil platforms rather than steel hulled. At those sizes, you don't really care about the incresesd mass cost of a concrete hull compared to the cost and maintenance advantages.
Or they go the Project Habbakuk route, and make unsinkable iceberg/saw-dust cityships.
Doomsought
Well-known member
Too much maintence to keep the ice from melting with all the heat given off by doing anything and everything aboard the ship. The advantage of concrete hulls is they are cheap and easy to maintain, given rust isn't a worry as long as you have the outermost bits of rebar far enough away from sea side face of the hull.