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LindyAF

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Just finished watching through the Mandalorian - it was pretty good.

I like the wild west Outer Rim vibes, and IMO the sense of fractious different factions would be more interesting setting than most time periods of Star Wars canon. It'd have been a more interesting setting if the Sequels had a bunch of nations arising from the fall of the Empire, rather than just really two.
 

LindyAF

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I feel like most of Star Wars actually wanted this - IIRC in Clone Wars there’s a lot of negotiating with local planets, in the cartoon series there’s the whole Shadow Collective and Mandos as a neutral party.
 

Basileus_Komnenos

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SW was forced into the duality for plot's sake.
Yeah I always found the forced duality between the "light and dark" sides to be contrived. Both sides have their own merits. If I were a force user in the galaxy, I'd be very interested in the dark side for the knowledge. At the same time knowing light side techniques are also useful. Lightside healing allows you to stave off any of the actual corruptive effects of the dark side.
The fact that the Sith don't use it is pretty dumb. It's like not wearing safety equipment or using a fume hood when working with corrosive acid.

Heck the lightside techniques can be just as corruptive as the "ways of the Sith" (ie Jedi mind tricks, or any basic force ability). I'd probably take an Aizen approach and learn as much as I could about both aspects of the Force.

The applications of the telekinetic abilities of Force techniques are pretty underutilized. On a much more advanced level you could probably be extremely destructive rather than just limiting yourself to "force push" or "force choke." A highly advanced practitioner could boost his own physical abilities. Heck in legends one sith (Darth Sion) was literally "too angry to die." He used his rage to hold his decaying corpse of a body together though his "immortality" was at the cost of "eternal agony."
 

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The Dark Side of the force isn't some hidden gateway to special knowledge that can only be accessed if you have enough evil points or something. The dark side is about how you you tap into the force and why. The idea of "dark side techniques" and "light side powers" is, as far as I know, a concept from video games and RPGs, that's not how the force works. Luke doesn't run around blasting people with force lightning because force lightning is a cruel, painful thing and he's not willing to do something like that to another living being, and because it's not the jedi way to weaponize the force, it's a lack of willingness to do such a thing and not a lack of ability.

There is no such thing, and cannot be such a thing, as a grey jedi or being in balance with the dark and light side. You can no more tap into the dark side for the occasional power boost then you can take the occasional hit of cocaine to get you through a,long meeting.
 

Bear Ribs

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I don't mind the Light/Dark side duality. It's overusing Republic vs Empire that annoys me.

The "both sides have their own merits" thing seems to be a fanon preference and at best an invention for video games, not something that's actually well supported.
The Force is an ascetic, active lifestyle and the Dark Side is cancer, in the sense that both will help you lose weight but one method takes less effort to lose weight and the other is typically healthier in the long run.
 
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Zyobot

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Wonder how long it would've taken for them to realize that. Maybe never, come to think of it.
 

Bear Ribs

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I actually thought she was Kitten from Teen Titans in cosplay. In the comic (Teen Titans Go, not related to the show by that name) Kitten wears a huge range of costumes and that would fit right in.
 

prinCZess

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Real talk the one on the left looks like the end result of an over-eager Grievous fangirl of an SI.
"You don't understand, she's totally original! She just has four extra robo-arms that wield extra lightsabers for her."

"Where did she get the extras?"

"Off of Jedi she kill--errr---she made them with her evil Sith powers."

Anyhow, even as something of a willing recipient of the anime-Star Wars attempts...I'm not exactly excited and what was seen in trailer didn't impress me.

I think the animation style in that one sets me off the most. I think it's Studio Trigger or Gainax? Either way it's...very over-stylized and neon-y in ways Star Wars has never really felt and doesn't seem right being used in a Star Wars story.
Star Wars always seems to have the real-future, gritty, lived-in feeling/appearance existing alongside/underneath the really mythological good v. evil plotline of things. It doesn't work in my opinion when you upset that too much and run with the neon-y motifs and color-zaniness.

Which'd be why the samurai-motif, pseudo black-and-white-ish one 'feels' a bit more appropriate.
'Course, in that one folks are drawing lightsabers like katanas, so...*sigh* I'mma go hug my Timothy Zahn body-pillow.
 
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Zachowon

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"You don't understand, she's totally original! She just has four extra robo-arms that wield extra lightsabers for her."

"Where did she get the extras?"

"Off of Jedi she kill--errr---she made them with her evil Sith powers."

Anyhow, even as something of a willing recipient of the anime-Star Wars attempts...I'm not exactly excited and what was seen in trailer didn't impress me.

I think the animation style in that one sets me off the most. I think it's Studio Trigger or Gainax? Either way it's...very over-stylized and neon-y in ways Star Wars has never really felt and doesn't seem right being used in a Star Wars story.
Star Wars always seems to have the real-future, gritty, lived-in feeling/appearance existing alongside/underneath the really mythological good v. evil plotline of things. It doesn't work in my opinion when you upset that too much and run with the neon-y motifs and color-zaniness.

Which'd be why the samurai-motif, pseudo black-and-white-ish one 'feels' a bit more appropriate.
'Course, in that one folks are drawing lightsabers like katanas, so...*sigh* I'mma go hug by Timothy Zahn body-pillow.
Nar shardda seems to disagree with you in how it is neon lights.
 

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"You don't understand, she's totally original! She just has four extra robo-arms that wield extra lightsabers for her."

"Where did she get the extras?"

"Off of Jedi she kill--errr---she made them with her evil Sith powers."

Anyhow, even as something of a willing recipient of the anime-Star Wars attempts...I'm not exactly excited and what was seen in trailer didn't impress me.

I think the animation style in that one sets me off the most. I think it's Studio Trigger or Gainax? Either way it's...very over-stylized and neon-y in ways Star Wars has never really felt and doesn't seem right being used in a Star Wars story.
Star Wars always seems to have the real-future, gritty, lived-in feeling/appearance existing alongside/underneath the really mythological good v. evil plotline of things. It doesn't work in my opinion when you upset that too much and run with the neon-y motifs and color-zaniness.

Which'd be why the samurai-motif, pseudo black-and-white-ish one 'feels' a bit more appropriate.
'Course, in that one folks are drawing lightsabers like katanas, so...*sigh* I'mma go hug my Timothy Zahn body-pillow.
It's really too bad they didn't gof for something like the Mandalorian origin story with something like the battle on Courscant that is deep in the back story of Star Wars and the near BSG style exodus of species the first being to bear the title of Mandalore.

It would have been a great fit for samurai motifs and clanish type stuff.
 

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