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It'll be a She-Wing
Jaenera Targaryen
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It certainly would be.
Liam Neeson on if he'll ever do a Star Wars spinoff!
So what he's actually saying... is there's still a chance...
So what he's actually saying... is there's still a chance...
I saw people on Social Media derping about the Sequel Trilogy and what the Skywalker Saga should truly be... so after seeing posts like this, I naturally had to whip up some copy and paste magic and create the currently best Skywalker Saga that is available in the setting.
Jorus C'Boath was kinda trash of course, even compared to Reborn Palpatine and Snoke... but everything else was pretty top notch in that sequel trilogy.
I mean I can't believe Luke Skywalker found a Girlfriend. I kinda lowkey expected him to become some sort of celibate Warrior Monk or whatever who saw the New Jedi Order as his 'family' so to speak. Also I can't believe Leia Organa almost died. Holy shit. Imagine that shocker...
Makes you ALMOST wish they continued with another trilogy after this one but what would they do to eclipse the previous nine storylines? Bring back the Emperor and some stupid sounding even more powerful Superweapon then the Death Star? C'mon...
Jorus C'Boath was kinda trash of course, even compared to Reborn Palpatine and Snoke... but everything else was pretty top notch in that sequel trilogy.
I mean I can't believe Luke Skywalker found a Girlfriend. I kinda lowkey expected him to become some sort of celibate Warrior Monk or whatever who saw the New Jedi Order as his 'family' so to speak. Also I can't believe Leia Organa almost died. Holy shit. Imagine that shocker...
Makes you ALMOST wish they continued with another trilogy after this one but what would they do to eclipse the previous nine storylines? Bring back the Emperor and some stupid sounding even more powerful Superweapon then the Death Star? C'mon...
Ehhh I get what he's saying but it still seems like a pretty big stretch to me. I'm glad he shared his opinion though. It's a nice enough take.
Doomsought
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I'm pretty sure this is deliberate on Lucas part. He deliberately had the dogfighing based on WWII as an artistic choice.
Oh yeah the dogfighting for sure. Just like the Trench Run on the death Star was supposed to be reminiscent of the Dam Bombers (and the film that told their story).
But Jedi being the Nisei/Japanese-American troops and 442nd RCT with Daniel Inoue as Luke Skywalker... ehhhhh.... You can fill in your own logic or reasoning to make it seem however remotely plausible, but that doesn't mean it is so.
Starkiller was like .. whatever. Just a bigger galactic ranged Death Star... Sure okay. Galaxy Gun was neater. And World Devastators in my humble opinion are just cool.
Those Xyston-Class Destroyers were just boring and uncreative. I liked Palpatines Force Storm he showed off way more in that film. Very suitably epic.
I mean stopping Palpatine and a fleet of Star Destroyers seems like enough of a rallying call on its own without the twenty thousand planet killing plot devices.
The third film was in a rough spot though. Following up the terrible plot that The Last Jedi left the series with would always be a big challenge. How to drag and pull the trilogy back and wrap it up in one film... While still treating The Last Jedi as completely canon. An unenviable task.
Skallagrim
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When you look at the core elements, the sequel trilogy turned into a shittier do-over of the exact parts of the original EU that were considered dodgy by the fans:
-- Palpatine coming back and having a secret cache of superweapons on a planet hidden by space anomalies? Dark Empire did that already.
-- The baddies having "even BIGGER superweapons that are WORSE than the Death Star"? Already seen in a number of EU books from the '90s, with the Sun Crusher and the Darksaber catching particular flack due to "superweapon fatigue".
-- A son of Han and Leia turning evil? Already done to Jacen by Troy Denning.
-- A grandchild of Palpatine running around? Core conceit of the atrocious (but unintentionally hilarious) Jedi Prince series.
It should be noted that the Dark Empire comics, the Jedi Academy trilogy, the 'Callista' trilogy, the entire 'Denningverse' and the Jedi Prince series have all had considerable numbers of detractors from the start. If, in 2014 or so, you'd hypothetically announced that you wanted to take inspiration from the best of the EU and asked SW fans for their favourites... these particular entries would not have made the cut.
And then they somehow managed to not only base their trilogy on elements and ideas from these works... they managed to do it worse this time around. That'almost an accomplishment. It takes a special kind of incompetence to fail so excessively.
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Far be it from me to deny that Rian Johnson is the directorial equivalent of an arsonist, but the director of TRoS -- one J.J. Abrams -- is hardly without blame here. He's the fucktard that always relies on stupid empty mystery boxes. He's a zero-substance filmmaker, to the point that I genuinely believe that Michael Bay(!) is his superior by a not-insignificant margin.
Yes, Johnson was a total dick. He deliberately set the whole Potemkin village on fire, ruining eerything that looked remotely decent, and giving the audience a charred, hollow carcass. Johnson is a pathetic little sadist who no doubt strokes his dick to the idea of making a film that fans hate.
But Abrams is the one who built the Potemkin village, instead of something real. So he can go hang, too. There's a kind of poetic irony in the fact that he ended up holding the bag of flaming excrement. He may not have set it on fire, but he sure was the one that put the turd in the bag to begin with! (Or in the mystery box, if you will...)
World Devastators are neat fucking things, because they could legit be used for peaceful mining purposes, and the NR not keeping some around to use for that purpose, particularly after R2 hacked them, seems like a rather large missed opportunity, economically.
Obviously you'd need to change the name, but unlike pretty much every other weapon that came out of the Maw Installation, WD's were not something that had to be used for destructive purposes.
Typhonis
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I'm just surprised we didn't see something like Star Lifting in SW. Yes KOTOR had the Rakatan forge but I'm thinking something that current Wars could do.
I still think the best move is to erase the last 3 Star Wars movies. They didn't exist...they were a force hallucination that some Jedi wakes up in a sweat from...then forgets about it a day later.
Simonbob
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"Man, I know those Dark cookies taste great, but they always screw with my sleep. No more of those before bed!"