Star Wars The Bad Batch

Sailor.X

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Well the follow on to the Clone Wars Series has finally aired. What are your thoughts on the show. Do you like it. Hate it or call it meh.

As for me I like the series. And Wrecker is my brother from a cloning tank and I am sticking with that head canon.
 

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I like the show a lot, and think they have a lot of potential to work with for story lines.

Though I will say I am calling it now: Omega is a sex-swapped clone of Palp's, and possibly Rey's mom.
 

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I like the show a lot, and think they have a lot of potential to work with for story lines.

Though I will say I am calling it now: Omega is a sex-swapped clone of Palp's, and possibly Rey's mom.
Yep that is definitely one angle. Another is she is a female clone of Anakin.
 

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Yep that is definitely one angle. Another is she is a female clone of Anakin.
Huh, that'd work too.

I think Omega is Palp's sex-swapped clone partly because of the hair-do, and because of how Lama Su acts like she is possible leverage against the Empire or Palp's if they cut clone production completely or make a move against Kamino.
 
IIRC didn't all the clones have the same face, because they were all based on Jango? Why do the guys in the pic have different faces?

the Kominoians went in and artificially altered their genes bringing out certain recessive traits, these super clones are less genetic brothers and more akin to genetic cousins or fraternal twins as opposed to identical twins.
 
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Sailor.X

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Huh, that'd work too.

I think Omega is Palp's sex-swapped clone partly because of the hair-do, and because of how Lama Su acts like she is possible leverage against the Empire or Palp's if they cut clone production completely or make a move against Kamino.
Well Dooku did have Anakin's hand after he loped it off and Palpatine was in charge of both factions. Add in the fact that Palpatine wanted to use Anakin as a body jump if his current body died. And you can see how it is possible.
 

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I like the show a lot, and think they have a lot of potential to work with for story lines.

Though I will say I am calling it now: Omega is a sex-swapped clone of Palp's, and possibly Rey's mom.
Have they kept the clone's of force sensitives going crazy part though? Cause otherwise just clone jedi.
 

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Well Dooku did have Anakin's hand after he loped it off and Palpatine was in charge of both factions. Add in the fact that Palpatine wanted to use Anakin as a body jump if his current body died. And you can see how it is possible.
Yep, it's completely possible Omega is a sex-swapped clone of Anakin, and not Palp's.

Man, the amount of stuff the Bad Batch might cover/dive into...this is going to be fun.
Have they kept the clone's of force sensitives going crazy part though? Cause otherwise just clone jedi.
No, don't think Disney canon kept that part, based of the limited runs of Force-sensitive clones Palp ordered in a few of the comics.
 
Have they kept the clone's of force sensitives going crazy part though? Cause otherwise just clone jedi.

eh, clone madness was always one of those weird aspects of the EU that did not hold water under greater scrutiny given that clones are essentially just identical twins that are grown in a test tube as opposed to a womb. Clone Wars also already kind of decanonized the whole "double presence in the force" thing. Yoda when pep talking his clones mentions how even though they are clones they all have their own unique aura in the force.

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Side note: Frankly this makes their existence all the more tragic. These were real men with their own places in the force and they were being treated as little more than organic droids

Still even without clone madness there are plenty of reasons why an army of Jedi would be a nightmare. Just because they would look like Anakin Skywalker or Obi-Wan Kenobi doesn't mean they would actually be Anakin Skywalker or Obi-Wan Kenobi. we know how dangerous a renegade clone is, now imagine if said renegade clone had the power of Anakin or Mace Windu. Even with artificial memories and experances put in, Shellshock can be one heck of a demon.
 
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eh, clone madness was always one of those weird aspects of the EU that did not hold water under greater scrutiny given that clones are essentially just identical twins that are grown in a test tube as opposed to a womb. Clone Wars also already kind of decanonized the whole "double presence in the force" thing. Yoda when pep talking his clones mentions how even though they are clones they all have their own unique aura in the force.

If you can mass clone force sensitives and get force sensitives it breaks the setting in half. Also, it fits really poorly with the rest of Star Wars thematically IMO.
 
If you can mass clone force sensitives and get force sensitives it breaks the setting in half. Also, it fits really poorly with the rest of Star Wars thematically IMO.

Star Wars Themeactics has always been kind of scitsophrenic and bipolar not knowing what it wanted to be 3/4 of the time. It was always primarily a driver to stretch Cinematic artistry and special effects to it's limit with story being second (there is a reason why most of star wars has required suplimentry material to be considered good outsode of the OT.) As far as breaking the setting goes, it would be no greater a world breaker than any other doomsday devices that exist in our own world. Just because somthing can be done in theory doesin't mean the logistics will let it pan out. Sure you can in theory create an army of force sensatives, but good luck trying to control it or better yet good luck not creating a another Mandalorion wars.
 

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So my understanding of the series premise is basically this:

In 19 BBY, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the galactic underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire The Bad Batch.

Also, they have a force sensitive rule 63 clone of Jango with them, but she's just a kid instead of a grown up badass jedi commando, which is lame.
 

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Have they kept the clone's of force sensitives going crazy part though? Cause otherwise just clone jedi.
Yep, it's completely possible Omega is a sex-swapped clone of Anakin, and not Palp's.

Man, the amount of stuff the Bad Batch might cover/dive into...this is going to be fun.
No, don't think Disney canon kept that part, based of the limited runs of Force-sensitive clones Palp ordered in a few of the comics.
Not really seeing the downside here from a narrative perspective. An in-universe perspective, absolutely, but we're talking about Palpatine here, guy practically used the evil overlord list for toilet paper.
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Jormungandr

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Omega is adorably hilarious.

"I think it's a good plan, Tech!"

"Omega... from earlier? In the corridor...?"

"You... actually want to sit with us? That's never happened before."

Even Crosshair, half-brainwashed by the Chip, looked as baffled as fuck that someone was willingly sitting with them, haha.
 

Sailor.X

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You know looking at the show. Some of the themes that take place in the first episode eerily match some of the same themes that happened at the end of the Cold War. Mainly how some of the higher ups in the DOD after we had defeated the Soviets sought to change the US Military into something completely different from what we were in the Cold War. You had to be there. But the Difference between the US Navy in 1990 and the way it would end up in 1995 is quite shocking. So much had been changed.
 

Bacle

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You know looking at the show. Some of the themes that take place in the first episode eerily match some of the same themes that happened at the end of the Cold War. Mainly how some of the higher ups in the DOD after we had defeated the Soviets sought to change the US Military into something completely different from what we were in the Cold War. You had to be there. But the Difference between the US Navy in 1990 and the way it would end up in 1995 is quite shocking. So much had been changed.
Too bad the modern DoD never seemed to have anyone as competent as Tarkin to deal with it.
 

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